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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 07 2012 23:22 GMT
#1639
On July 08 2012 08:21 BroodKingEXE wrote:
My bad, I didn't realize the time changed. Am I modkilled?

I don't think so, it said you have 2 hours.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 10 2012 03:46 GMT
#1703
On July 09 2012 05:29 Twelve wrote:
Well I really dont want to vote you anymore since Hyaach seems to be telling the truth. Someone else for sure, I just havent really decided yet.

Why did you say this and then never switch your vote? Also, if you believed Hyaach why didn't you just immediately vote for Katina. I've suspected 12 for a long time so
##Vote: Twleve
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 11 2012 19:07 GMT
#1757
On July 12 2012 03:58 ghost_403 wrote:
Fun fact: Majugarzett autorolls scum. We should lynch him based on that fact alone. For reference, see Bastard Mafia 2 and TLM LV.

I've looked back at those posts that I thought were pro-town, and I can't really find them. Maju's been playing scummy all game, and I don't think that's because he's a lazy townie. He seems to post posts that are mildly insightful, and then just kind of drop them. His earlier posting was not terribad, later posting is

Interestingly, none of the better lynched townies said anything substantial of Maju. There are almost no references to him in the filters of NSH, austinmcc, marv, or even s0lstice. Almost nothing. This guy has been lurking like a boss all game long. I vote we rip him out of the shadows and see what's going on.

How can you possibly think my posts have had less content than Grush's? Also maybe no one mentioned me because they didn't find me scummy. The players mentioned are all town so how is them not mentioning me relevant to any case about me being scum? You seem to have no reasoning behind thinking I'm scum and not an inactive townie.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#1820
On July 13 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
MajuGarzett

I mentioned him earlier, but he's kinda felt a little townie in his posting. A little bit...way more so than previous lynches anyway, so he fell off my radar. But reading his filter BROUGHT IT ALL BACK BABY!

+ Show Spoiler [Previous posts on the matter] +


On July 05 2012 13:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:32 MajuGarzett wrote:
I like the lynching of twelve the best right now. One of the things that stands out to me in his filter was

On July 04 2012 15:15 Twelve wrote:
I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch.


His last previous mention of casual was

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon.



Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind.

He says casual isn't worth a day 1 lynch but for some unexplained reason thinks he's worth a day 2 lynch.

He attacks NoSmurfHere for starting bandwagons when trying to find scum really shouldn't be suspicious at all.
He also claims to have found FT scummy before he ever saw the bandwagon but never bothered to mention FT at all. As town he really shouldn't be afraid to share his reads.

##Vote: Twelve


This defense of NSH is completely out of place considering your "read" of NSH up to this point. Explain.


I've taken the liberty of highlighting something I missed before, which is what I perceive to be a scumslip. It seems to me that if he were town trying to discern 12's alignment he would say something like "If he's town" or "Assuming he's town"…but he says "As town" as if he knows he's town. Minor, but it's also in a spoiler.

On July 06 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
VisceraEyes Scum-O-Meter

The Good Guys
VisceraEyes
ghost403
Kurumi
austinmcc
NoSmurfHere
Acrofales
Mattchew

These are the people that I read as town.




The Bad Guys
MajuGarzett
Vivax
casualman
ShiaoPi

These are people that for one reason or another I have a scum read on. I support killing these players with zero remorse. Vivax I've provided reasoning for. I was dissatisfied with Maju's response to my question of him...his read on NSH was such that he wanted to lynch him earlier in the day, but then decided out of nowhere and for very little reason that he was wrong and in fact DEFENDED NSH late in the day when the vote-switch stuff was happening (I think). He's my strongest read as of right now, but he's also the one who has the highest probability of changing my mind if he can explain himself more thoroughly. Casualman has almost no content by which to judge him. Yet he's voting and posting every cycle. Scummy. Kill him. ShiaoPi defended BM early on, and has been a non-presence in the game for most of it. My weakest read.




The Players
Katina
grush57
Twelve
Hyaach
BroodKingEXE
Mandalor

These are people who I do NOT have a read on. They're listed in order from greenest to reddest…though I'd call all of them null reads ultimately. Katina used to be a town read, but her burst in activity seems as convenient as her choice in lynches. I've moved her to a null leaning town read.

I call them "the players" because unless they're NK'd (not likely as most of them have some form of suspicion on them save grush) then along with "The Bad Guys" they make up who are going to survive to LYLO if we keep mislynching by my estimation.


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On July 01 2012 09:09 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 08:55 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Bill Murray is an idiot, some vig should shoot him tonight. Not worth a lynch as that would probably wreck the thread and waste discussion space.

Do note that mKmKmK has taken his time in responding to the votes he's received. If he were town at the very least he'd call my vote stupid. However he's chosen to lurk the suspicion away which is far more of a scumtell than towntell. In addition notice how he hasn't built up many votes whereas some random noob is racking up votes like a stripper with DDs racks up $2 bills on fight night.

There's some major derailing going on and whoever is responsible is scum.


You're insinuating that mK is scummy because people aren't voting for him? That's rather ridiculous. Your first 4 posts don't do anything at all other than give a completely unsubstantiated vote. Your latest post says BM should be shot because he's an idiot, not because he's scum. You then spew ridiculous comments on mK based on him lurking while there are others who have lurked more. You then talk about derailing in a very vague manner without bothering to direct it anyone.

Your vote is weird and has poor support and your comment about BM is completely at odds with town goals if you don't believe he's scum.


This is a pretty hardish defense of BM, which I missed before. Also this post feels awfully defensive to NSH's sentiment when he said it himself - NSH didn't really direct the post at anyone, just made an observation. So why is he taking issue with this post exactly?

Between this post:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 09:56 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 03 2012 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, you can't make me Marv.

I've fucked TWO games now pushing lynches that were never going to happen, you're not going to talk me into doing it this game.

I'd be interested in a NoSmurfHere lynch. I backed off him as I had no support.


And this post,
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 03:24 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 03 2012 22:41 Hyaach wrote:
I don't know man, i have a heavy reliance on page 1 and day/night post. I dont keep spreadsheets.

Hey Maju. Thoughts on nosmurfhere?

Don't really suspect him anymore. I know we're supposed to stop talking about the role pm's but its kinda hard to forget about it. If wiggles said he got a similar pm to smurf its unlikely that smurf was scum who posted that to seem more town like and randomly had another player who actually got a pm just saying role name.

I just wanted to respond to this quickly, I still have to catch up a bit.


...there's literally nothing. Not one mention of NSH, no struggling to figure out his alignment…he just goes from wanting to lynch the guy to "Don't really suspect him anymore". Why? Oh, role-PMs…got it…the things that scum get fake-claims about. Right. No. This is ridiculous, and after this he switches gears to DEFENDING NSH? All because NSH said he got a similar ROLE PM to someone else?

This is a classic case of scum trying to justify having more information than they should. His read of NSH changes based on nothing - but he wants to look good defending someone everyone else thinks is town, so he fabricates something based on BS to justify his read.

MajuGarzett is scum. He defended BM. He hard-flipped on NSH to the point of chainsaw defending him against Twelve. It's time he dies.

I wouldn't say that the bold quote is a defense of BM. It was more of a comment on NSH's logic. At that time I suspected NSH so commenting on his play made perfect sense. I guess I really can't say anything about the flip on NSH. My logic has been given and the logic made sense to me. You say that scum could have faked the role pm but what would be the point of giving scum fake role pm's when the VT positions are listed in the OP? The only way that would make sense was if scum were given a certain position such as juggler (which I am by the way) which would be given to no one else in the game. Also, if I was scum, why wouldn't I have initially tried to kill someone who other people suspected as well instead of suspecting NSH then changing my views?

I don't see how my actions in general have been that scummy. I first voted for NSH, which as I have said was someone who scum would be unlikely to target for a lynch. I was against the vote of ET, a townie, and for the vote of Katina, the scum RB.

I am still for lynching grush. After that I would lynch casual as by this point I suspect his trolling was just a way of keeping a null read and therefore not garnering votes. After that I'm not sure though I am suspicious of VE for his hesitance to vote for Katina. I felt that his qualms about the truth of Hyaach's roleclaim were fairly unfounded.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 14 2012 23:48 GMT
#1905
On July 15 2012 08:20 Vivax wrote:
Once Acro and Kurumi made that gambit defending a townie from a mislynch (which was quite a gamble), they had a bulletproof defense for lategame. At least for me, since I would never see scum renouncing on a mislynch.

The only remaining options in lategame were maju and grush. Maju didn't even bother defending himself, everyone on the scumteam was pointing to grush, making him actually look less suspicious. This was quite nice play by scum, so I wouldn't take credit away from the scumteam, although they had casualman casting a lot of doubt at that stage of the game.



I defended myself a lot more than grush did. All he did was post song lyrics. And how exactly did Acro and Kurumi voting for grush make grush look less suspicious? No one really suspected either of them.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#1927
On July 16 2012 05:44 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
Doesn't excuse it.

So what?

It may say "please be civil" but games in which people stick to that are a very rare thing. It also says "play to win" but that still gets ignored by a substantial number of players.

You'll notice no one else told anyone to suck a dick though.
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