• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:57
CET 14:57
KST 22:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT22Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0225LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Gypsy to Korea TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1907 users

TL Mafia LVI - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 08:53 GMT
#701
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 08:58 GMT
#708
On July 02 2012 17:53 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.

....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game?


Yeah he started it, but Matt just put him on "his list", giving no reasons. I know I'm town and I think drwiggl3s is as well. We know Foxtrotter is so that's 3 people on his list I consider town for myself.
Marv starting it is fishy. But he didn't play a big role in actually enforcing the lynch. I think people just blindly followed you and matt.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 08:59 GMT
#709
On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 09:08 GMT
#714
On July 02 2012 18:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:
He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch;

Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.


Please point me to that post, must've missed it.

lol didn't read...


I just reread the last few pages and it was indeed matt who started this:
On July 02 2012 04:18 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 03:40 Foxtrotter wrote:
Sorry i haven't posted yet ladies and gentles was a little busy and had to catch up.
I've read through the thread and my opinion is that everything mK has done (or lack of) up to this point seems scummy.
The fact that he has not defended him self is extremely unsettling to me. (I hope that nothing personal has happened.)


With his comment of however,

On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:
On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.

vague post is vague...



I am pretty comfortable voting for him on D1.

##vote mK

You can add yourself as number 6 on my list to die.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 09:47 GMT
#733
I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s:
I think the doctor is a townie.
I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town.
I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions.
I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen.
I still think BKE is scum.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 09:55 GMT
#737
On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.

At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.

When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.


I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself:
Possible modkill of mK.

If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 10:14 GMT
#747
On July 02 2012 18:58 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 18:55 Mandalor wrote:
On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.

At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.

When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.


I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself:
Possible modkill of mK.

If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie.

Was talking to wiggl3s, but your answer is fine. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like a hell of a lot of effort (and risk) to put into getting an extra townie killed. At least it's plausible tho.

Now, other than the late addition of a townie to Mattchew's list of death, mind making a case that isn't connection-based with BKE until we, you know, flip BKE as scum?


Yeah it's a risky move, but one potentially worth taking in matt's position. mK could be scum tho, I don't know. I just wanted to point out a possible reason to defend mK as mafia even if he's town.

Mattchew lives off his reputation and most of town seems to buy it. I will try to make a good post for my case on Matt after the night. I also wanna hear his reason for the fox addition to his list.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 02 2012 21:49 GMT
#871
The more wiggles posted, the more weird his posts became. To a point where he made really odd mistakes (not scummy at all -> 100% scummy)
I don't know, I hold onto my opinion that he's town for now. I know I put a lot more thoughts in my posts when I was mafia.

I would still like Matt to explain his read on fox.

Ghost's last minute vote seemed odd. I'll look into his filter tomorrow.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 03 2012 07:43 GMT
#999
I wish casualman would not vote. That's one player I can't read and he's incredibly annoying.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 03 2012 21:24 GMT
#1086
Vivax and Katina look interesting.

What do you guys think of ghost? He was the last to vote for Fox, begged for people to tell him what to vote for and then jumped on the wagon.
He made a long post on ET (who I think is town) and then badaboombadabang said he'd vote for BM (he didn't).
Other than analysing ET there is no contribution on his part.

Pretty sure he's scum. Anyone agree?
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 03 2012 22:13 GMT
#1101
Misread ghost's post. Sorry.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 07:34 GMT
#1167
@Katina:
I said mattchew's analysis of me and him putting words in my mouth
reeks of scum
. I said
you are my die-list
.
I don't know what else you expected me to say. But you are right in one point. I don't have the balls to call him out by doing a huge case AND I don't want to. Matt has posted some constructive analysis. If he's scum, he's playing very very well. If he's a townie, he's still a pretty decent player. I just don't agree with a lot of his analyses.

Saying matt's list isn't all-town is a derpy thing to say? wat? It isn't. He had BM on his list.

I guess it makes sense to not account for my old games, but it simply isn't true that I played inactive. In 1 of the 2 games I played as mafia, I was a very loud player. The other time I was rather quiet, that's true. Third game as town I got killed on night 1 or 2 because I was trying to oranise town. So yeah, I don't know what you read, but I sure wasn't inactive.

I gave reasons for why I thought BKE was scum. Matt was of the opinion that I didn't as well. Tbh I don't think so anymore, but I gave my reasons. No idea why both of you feel like I didn't.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 09:59 GMT
#1175
On July 04 2012 17:39 Acrofales wrote:
Mandalor: same question. I see a lot of defensive talking about yourself and explaining your actions. Talk about other people in this game. Who do you want to lynch?


I did. I fucked up pretty badly with ghost. I'll be making my mind up today.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 13:09 GMT
#1184
I got my vote on either Katina or Twelve right now.

Katina pretty much just followed VE's thoughts on Day1, semi defended BM and now made a case of casualman who imo cannot be read and better be ignored for now.

Twelve. As MattChew pointed out earlier, he accused the two most popular lynch candidates without providing a basis for this. Just an hour after mK was modkilled and flipped green, he says how it was "a lurker lynch [he] really didn't agree with". How convenient to post that after the modkill and never mention mK before.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 20:09 GMT
#1244
On July 05 2012 04:24 ShiaoPi wrote:
Twelve who is your topscumread? Really casualman?

oh and Mandalor, why ninjavote?


Ninjavote? I explained I'd go for either Katina or Twelve. Doesn't look like Katina will gain enough votes so I went for Twelve.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 20:41 GMT
#1247
Okay

##vote Twelve
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 22:15 GMT
#1263
ET as scum leaving like that would be incredibly bm. I don't think he was mafia afterall.
Okay guys I'm off to bed. Hopefully 12 flips red.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 05 2012 07:31 GMT
#1343
Oh man. You went for the guy who was quite likely to be modkilled anyway?


On July 05 2012 07:18 Vivax wrote:
Mandalor, can you give me insight on this wtfpost?

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 18:47 Mandalor wrote:
I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s:
I think the doctor is a townie.
I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town.
I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions.
I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen.

I still think BKE is scum.


I don't understand what you wanted to do with mattchew at the time. You praise his constructive posts but think that killing him is a good idea?


yay not a day goes by I don't have to defend myself. Being suspected early is really annoying. Despite me defending wiggl3s, not jumping on either the mK or Fox bandwagon and defending neither of the scum players we know for certain, but here we go:

You misread my post. Read it again. I praised ET's constructive posts. Earlier Matt and ET looked like working together so if Matt is scum (as I suspected) that would raise some suspicion on ET.
By now I'm leaning towards Matt being a townie.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 05 2012 10:20 GMT
#1345
Everybody wake up!
There's been some odd vote switching tonight. There wasn't even anyone giving more insight on ET yet everybody switched. PLUS the fact that none of the inactives were replaced so far and a ET modkill was like 99% certain to happen.

I'll have a look at the votes when I'm back from work. I refuse to believe that so many townies were so ridiculously stupid.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 05 2012 10:26 GMT
#1346
I would also like Mr. Wiggles to consider making the time for ending the votes more convenient for us euros. I think the voting ends at like 2 or 3 am for me.

Could you please consider moving the time for you day/night posts a little to make it more convenient for euros?
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
King of the Hill #238
iHatsuTV 19
Liquipedia
WardiTV Winter Champion…
12:00
Group B
WardiTV611
IndyStarCraft 281
3DClanTV 68
Liquipedia
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
Group A
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft1044
TKL 277
Rex195
IntoTheiNu 42
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1044
IndyStarCraft 281
TKL 277
Rex 195
Reynor 156
ProTech135
Vindicta 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40544
Horang2 7344
Hyuk 3693
GuemChi 1714
Sea 1179
Shuttle 488
Larva 455
Stork 440
EffOrt 401
firebathero 335
[ Show more ]
Mini 285
BeSt 274
Light 238
ZerO 214
Snow 190
ggaemo 189
Last 166
Soma 151
Hyun 135
Mong 108
Pusan 99
hero 90
Soulkey 88
Sea.KH 62
Rush 58
Barracks 55
ToSsGirL 46
Mind 41
JYJ 40
sSak 34
Hm[arnc] 30
Free 26
JulyZerg 25
scan(afreeca) 23
Terrorterran 21
Yoon 21
ZergMaN 20
GoRush 19
Movie 19
910 17
Bale 15
sorry 15
Dota 2
Gorgc4511
Dendi580
XcaliburYe82
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1668
markeloff86
edward69
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor149
Other Games
singsing3032
B2W.Neo611
XaKoH 343
crisheroes293
Lowko292
DeMusliM252
Hui .195
Sick142
QueenE126
Mew2King90
Trikslyr25
KnowMe23
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1326
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3632
• Jankos2212
• TFBlade837
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 4m
PiG Sty Festival
19h 4m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
20h 4m
Epic.LAN
22h 4m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 19h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
Epic.LAN
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.