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On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.
See how it excludes BKexe for example?
I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.
Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.
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On July 02 2012 17:53 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.
See how it excludes BKexe for example? I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter. Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games. Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before. ....marv started the lynch on Foxtrotter. Are you guys confused with names or not keeping up with the game?
Yeah he started it, but Matt just put him on "his list", giving no reasons. I know I'm town and I think drwiggl3s is as well. We know Foxtrotter is so that's 3 people on his list I consider town for myself.
Marv starting it is fishy. But he didn't play a big role in actually enforcing the lynch. I think people just blindly followed you and matt.
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On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch.
Please point me to that post, must've missed it.
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On July 02 2012 18:03 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:59 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 17:56 EchelonTee wrote: He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch; Stop saying nonsense like this. It's literally insulting to keep on repeating this line like a broken record when there was a clearly stated reason for the Foxtrotter lynch. Please point me to that post, must've missed it. lol didn't read...
I just reread the last few pages and it was indeed matt who started this:
On July 02 2012 04:18 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 03:40 Foxtrotter wrote:Sorry i haven't posted yet ladies and gentles was a little busy and had to catch up. I've read through the thread and my opinion is that everything mK has done (or lack of) up to this point seems scummy. The fact that he has not defended him self is extremely unsettling to me. (I hope that nothing personal has happened.) With his comment of however, On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.
how quaint. vague post is vague... I am pretty comfortable voting for him on D1. ##vote mK You can add yourself as number 6 on my list to die.
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I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s:
I think the doctor is a townie.
I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town.
I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions.
I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen.
I still think BKE is scum.
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On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.
At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.
When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.
I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself:
Possible modkill of mK.
If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie.
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On July 02 2012 18:58 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 18:55 Mandalor wrote:On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.
At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.
When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.
I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself: Possible modkill of mK. If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie. Was talking to wiggl3s, but your answer is fine. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like a hell of a lot of effort (and risk) to put into getting an extra townie killed. At least it's plausible tho. Now, other than the late addition of a townie to Mattchew's list of death, mind making a case that isn't connection-based with BKE until we, you know, flip BKE as scum?
Yeah it's a risky move, but one potentially worth taking in matt's position. mK could be scum tho, I don't know. I just wanted to point out a possible reason to defend mK as mafia even if he's town.
Mattchew lives off his reputation and most of town seems to buy it. I will try to make a good post for my case on Matt after the night. I also wanna hear his reason for the fox addition to his list.
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The more wiggles posted, the more weird his posts became. To a point where he made really odd mistakes (not scummy at all -> 100% scummy)
I don't know, I hold onto my opinion that he's town for now. I know I put a lot more thoughts in my posts when I was mafia.
I would still like Matt to explain his read on fox.
Ghost's last minute vote seemed odd. I'll look into his filter tomorrow.
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I wish casualman would not vote. That's one player I can't read and he's incredibly annoying.
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Vivax and Katina look interesting.
What do you guys think of ghost? He was the last to vote for Fox, begged for people to tell him what to vote for and then jumped on the wagon.
He made a long post on ET (who I think is town) and then badaboombadabang said he'd vote for BM (he didn't).
Other than analysing ET there is no contribution on his part.
Pretty sure he's scum. Anyone agree?
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Misread ghost's post. Sorry.
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@Katina:
I said mattchew's analysis of me and him putting words in my mouth reeks of scum . I said you are my die-list .
I don't know what else you expected me to say. But you are right in one point. I don't have the balls to call him out by doing a huge case AND I don't want to. Matt has posted some constructive analysis. If he's scum, he's playing very very well. If he's a townie, he's still a pretty decent player. I just don't agree with a lot of his analyses.
Saying matt's list isn't all-town is a derpy thing to say? wat? It isn't. He had BM on his list.
I guess it makes sense to not account for my old games, but it simply isn't true that I played inactive. In 1 of the 2 games I played as mafia, I was a very loud player. The other time I was rather quiet, that's true. Third game as town I got killed on night 1 or 2 because I was trying to oranise town. So yeah, I don't know what you read, but I sure wasn't inactive.
I gave reasons for why I thought BKE was scum. Matt was of the opinion that I didn't as well. Tbh I don't think so anymore, but I gave my reasons. No idea why both of you feel like I didn't.
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On July 04 2012 17:39 Acrofales wrote:
Mandalor: same question. I see a lot of defensive talking about yourself and explaining your actions. Talk about other people in this game. Who do you want to lynch?
I did. I fucked up pretty badly with ghost. I'll be making my mind up today.
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I got my vote on either Katina or Twelve right now.
Katina pretty much just followed VE's thoughts on Day1, semi defended BM and now made a case of casualman who imo cannot be read and better be ignored for now.
Twelve. As MattChew pointed out earlier, he accused the two most popular lynch candidates without providing a basis for this. Just an hour after mK was modkilled and flipped green, he says how it was "a lurker lynch [he] really didn't agree with". How convenient to post that after the modkill and never mention mK before.
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On July 05 2012 04:24 ShiaoPi wrote:
Twelve who is your topscumread? Really casualman?
oh and Mandalor, why ninjavote?
Ninjavote? I explained I'd go for either Katina or Twelve. Doesn't look like Katina will gain enough votes so I went for Twelve.
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ET as scum leaving like that would be incredibly bm. I don't think he was mafia afterall.
Okay guys I'm off to bed. Hopefully 12 flips red.
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Oh man. You went for the guy who was quite likely to be modkilled anyway?
On July 05 2012 07:18 Vivax wrote:Mandalor, can you give me insight on this wtfpost? Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 18:47 Mandalor wrote:
I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s:
I think the doctor is a townie.
I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town.
I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions.
I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen.
I still think BKE is scum. I don't understand what you wanted to do with mattchew at the time. You praise his constructive posts but think that killing him is a good idea?
yay not a day goes by I don't have to defend myself. Being suspected early is really annoying. Despite me defending wiggl3s, not jumping on either the mK or Fox bandwagon and defending neither of the scum players we know for certain, but here we go:
You misread my post. Read it again. I praised ET's constructive posts. Earlier Matt and ET looked like working together so if Matt is scum (as I suspected) that would raise some suspicion on ET.
By now I'm leaning towards Matt being a townie.
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Everybody wake up!
There's been some odd vote switching tonight. There wasn't even anyone giving more insight on ET yet everybody switched. PLUS the fact that none of the inactives were replaced so far and a ET modkill was like 99% certain to happen.
I'll have a look at the votes when I'm back from work. I refuse to believe that so many townies were so ridiculously stupid.
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I would also like Mr. Wiggles to consider making the time for ending the votes more convenient for us euros. I think the voting ends at like 2 or 3 am for me.
Could you please consider moving the time for you day/night posts a little to make it more convenient for euros?
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