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On June 30 2012 23:30 Vivax wrote:
That self-vote stunt wasn't shitty evidence. It was probably planned in egocentrical way by a scum player. I can understand if someone placed his vote on somebody else for no apparent reason, since that will immediately force someone to defend himself (or he can try and make it look like he's lurking).
I don't see how a self-vote would create a good atmoshpere for town. It might all be for shits and giggles pre-game, but ingame it just might be an exaggerated attempt to act like an overconfident townie and just causes confusion.
If you asked me who I would vote for right now, then it would be either VE or acrofales.
This is epicmafia level logic. AKA, not good.
Even if you regarded VE's actions as bad, that does not make acrofales his scumbuddy. Scumbuddies often soft defend, but acrofales did an out and out defense of VE; this does not point to any significant connection between them.
mKmK or BM best lynches, so far.
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On June 30 2012 19:32 Bill Murray wrote:
Acrofales, it's not OMGUS when I have reasoning
You have chainsawed
You have also set up a chance for a weak ass switch to the BW on BKExe
scummy as fuck
##unvote
##vote acro
This is the case on BM.
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On June 30 2012 22:33 Hyaach wrote:
its not lurk ville 300. i just have no idea how to play day 1s.
I'm not talking about you hunny.
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This is the case on mKmKmK.
On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:vague post is vague...
Kenpachi rule. Wishy washy reaction towards VT claim while trying to paint it in bad light.
On June 30 2012 22:21 mKmKmK wrote:VE, the way you sad that BM may be the first lynch, but then went ahead and voted for BKE seems pretty much like your trying to start a bandwagon on BKE. I know that there are valid arguments saying that he is scum, but the way you said is giving me a really scummy impression from you. Also, I have a feeling that Kurumi is scum. I'm not sure why, he's just giving me bad vibes.
Says "I know there are valid arguements saying he is scum", yet he gets "a scummy impression" from one of his phrasings, so VE's valid arguments are no longer valid? Logical disconnect.
"Feelings" and "vibes". No FoS, no vote. Very little reasoning, TBH. Waiting for a bandwagon.
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It's a semi-joke semi-legit tactic used by a dude named Kenpachi. Kenpachi claims vanilla townie almost every game. Sometimes, newbie scum see this and react badly to it. I've seen it directly work, but it's not end all be all.
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By all means, scrutinize VE; he's one of the hardest players to read in TL Mafia, for better or for worse and I don't plan to let him gallivant about unchecked. The main issue with your logic is saying that "self-voting" is one of the safest options for scum to look townie. Self-voting means absolutely nothing. VE has also not been contentless.
By simple read throughs, I'm not sure how you can possibly support BM over VE.
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On July 01 2012 00:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 00:12 EchelonTee wrote:This is the case on mKmKmK. On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.
how quaint. vague post is vague... Kenpachi rule. Wishy washy reaction towards VT claim while trying to paint it in bad light. I don't know about this game, but in one of the games I played as scum, mafia got a mail with the VT role pm they could use to fake claim VT. That might have been NoSmurfHere actually using that information in his favor immediately. Can we know if mafia got a VT role pm?
It doesn't really matter whether or not Mafia got the VT role PM. Knowing Wiggles, they definitely did. I'm not concerned with NoSmurfHere, I'm concerned with mKmKmK.
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On June 30 2012 14:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Also, please stop discussing role PMs. The OP clearly states: This is true for all roles. [/b][/blue]
I don't want to discuss NoSmurfHere's wording of the claim; I'm focusing on the fact that he generically claimed Vanilla Townie, and mKmKmK reacting strangely at it ("vague post is vague") is an eye catcher.
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On July 01 2012 00:48 Vivax wrote:
I would also advise town to wonder why acrofales made his first case against the guy suspecting the person he defended just before.
My conclusion is that VE doesn't look particularly scummy or townie, and that BM's case on him was bad. Therefore, Acrofales defending VE and attacking BM seems good to me.
If you are town, I would advise you slow down because you are beginning to look flustered.
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Bke is a classic d1 lynch; hard to clearly read, an active poster with strange accusations and minor breaches in logic that show only slight scumminess, but a lot of people jump on anyways. his opening post was strange, but it's not nearly as conclusive as other opening scum posts have been in the past (zealos, macpo). I find his posting scummish, but not conclusive enough for a d1 lynch, and very low on info to boot.
BM would be informative, mK would be accurate. Putting on my vote for mK.
Hi adam.
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On July 01 2012 04:24 s0Lstice wrote:
ET what do you think of Katina?
It's Katina, so I have no clue. If her reads start flipping town, then I'll be more suspicious.
On July 01 2012 04:47 Acrofales wrote:
@ET: s0lstice's post satisfies me with regards to his earlier promise to give his reads during the day. You agree?
No. I expect a lot from a townie s0Lstice. Unfair? A bit, but it's no less than I'd expect from slOosh, Cephiro, gonzaw.
On July 01 2012 05:57 casualman wrote:
phase 2
Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it.
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On July 01 2012 04:47 Acrofales wrote:Hi! Who do you want to lynch today?
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So why is everyone ignoring mKmKmK LOL.
On June 30 2012 22:21 mKmKmK wrote:VE, the way you sad that BM may be the first lynch, but then went ahead and voted for BKE seems pretty much like your trying to start a bandwagon on BKE. I know that there are valid arguments saying that he is scum, but the way you said is giving me a really scummy impression from you. Also, I have a feeling that Kurumi is scum. I'm not sure why, he's just giving me bad vibes.
Hey guys. This is a scum claim. I called him out on it. He hasn't responded to my post.
Look at the first post he made:
On June 30 2012 10:11 mKmKmK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry everybody I'm tooooooooooooooooooown!!!!!!!
And I'm also horribly unafraid, and incredibly willing to post, share reads and FIND EFFING SCUM!
Just so we're on the same D1 page, I'm in favor of lurker lynches if we lack a scummy candidate, but my preference is to lynch scum every time. So let's just focus on finding scum, and hopefully we won't HAVE any lurkers to even worry about! Yeah? YEAH!!!
WOOOOOOOO FOR TOWN!!! Your enthusiasm is inspiring. This is actually my first game of TL Mafia, so im pretty psyched, and will most likely make really make arguments, so please bear with me! As a fellow townie I hope that we can all work as a team to find the scum, and lynch them! Until they all die! YEAH!
Taking a page from Radfield's book; he was all eager to play, calling himself fellow townie and shiz, now he lurks in the dark while being accused? HE'S SCUM. So obvious.
The only negative to his lynch is that it would be really low info. Before you jump at me like "oh we lynch for scum not lynch for info"; if you can get both out of a lynch, that is optimal.
On July 01 2012 06:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 06:40 EchelonTee wrote:
Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it. You speak in riddles for me, who is Adam?And how is that event similar to this one? Also, could you explain me fully what the kenpachi rule is? I didn't play these games where you learned what you learned.
Adam is a player in this game. Sephirothag was a newbie town who played in a really obvious scummy way, who was promptly mislynched D1; casualman is doing something similar but in the "mrzentor" variety. Basically, whereas sephirothag was writing big posts that were contentless, casualman is posting tiny posts that are trolly. It seems pretty obviously town to me, but Adam is right that casualman is not trying at all, which is not good at all.
I already explained the Kenpachi rule. Sorry for the code speak.
I need to think a bit about the lynch. While I am pretty confident that mKmKmK is mafia, I need to see if any of the cases people posted aren't god awful.
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It's been 18 hours since I posted my minuscule case on mKmKmK; unless he has some egregious personal emergency, he doesn't want to answer me or is simply not reading the game. No excuse like "oh I was at work" flies here; it's been plenty of time.
People no doubt are going to say "oh he's just a lurker, I can't really tell from such few posts"; this feels obvious as hell to me. As obvious as Gambit and Maju were in TL LV. Just, really fn obvious scum. Any disagreements?
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On July 01 2012 20:19 Vivax wrote:
I fear lynching him for the possibility that he's just a blue role trying to keep his head low.
That said, I think ET should not jump on him so easily based on a policy formed through previous games.
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When is deadline? I'm in LA. Inb4 dodging responsibility for lynch.
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Foxtrot and kthez look bad.
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Mattchew, adam, ve, katina; is the mK lynch good to you? Something feels a bit fishy; I need reassurance or a cold slap in the face. We narrowly have time for a mass switch; only other option I see as feasible and good is a BM lynch.
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On July 02 2012 06:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Marvellosity has replaced KtheZ!
Oh God not again pls
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Mostly, solstice and foxtrot and grush's vote bumps all feel weird; not calling all three scum per se, but as toad put it once, I don't like the people sitting on this lynch. Bke couldve easily been bumped up if it was mk scum bke town, so I don't know if mk is a misread, or if I'm paranoid or what.
Where is everyone? Where is ghost's vote lol????
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