Newbie Mini Mafia XVII - Page 34

In defense of her actions suki attempts to point out that part of her reasoning behind the trackd00r attack was "to get the ball rolling." This seems like a catch-all defense for scummy actions.

She then pressures alan133 for making controversial/confusing statements. I think this is a little more justified here because I believe alan's logic was a little flawed. But still, are you noticing a pattern? Suki pressured two players who looked weak from their first posts. Attacking weak/illogical/confusing players is not a town motivation. It's a scum motivation attempting to get a mislynch.

In this, she criticizes HeavOn's play while also posting a soft defense of him. It looks like she was trying to slow down the bandwagon on him while still leaving herself open to bussing him.

Notice how she plants the idea of bias in other people's reads on her. It seems like a way to defend herself without actually addressing the points brought against her. She also dismisses her comments on appearing bold as WIFOM, another way of deflecting pressure off of her comments. To be fair, she had spent a good bit of time defending herself D1 so this point in and of itself is not particularly damning.

I find it odd that suki has attacked me so harshly for being nervous when it's pretty obvious that she knows there is good reason for being nervous before a lynch. After all it seems like she was pretty nervous too. Double standard much?

On June 27 2012 05:05 Miltonkram wrote:
Ok Crossfire. The case mostly deals with D1 stuff, since that's when I feel she made her major errors.

Also, please keep in mind that your opinion towards me has been pretty constant for a while.

Suki has already pointed out how a scum me could still be motivated to NK sciberbia. By that coin, suki's motivation in NK'ing sciberbia would have been to kill him, and then point out exactly what she pointed out.

If I'm scum, I had the option of killing either you or sciberbia. Do you honestly think I had the confidence to convince you of my case, even with NK implications in my favor?

Anyway, I'll be back shortly.

---snip
Haha. I quoted a post from Xatalos that was the exact type of 'nervous' post that you made - one that's made from scum motivations. Comparing your nervous post and my 'nervous' post is like comparing apples and oranges.

Also your comment at the end... Well in like 4 hours you'll see that my post was made with genuine town perspective :o

His nervousness pre-lynch of HeavOn:


@ Heaven
There are a lot of people jumping on your case really quickly. Not gonna lie, it's making me a little nervous. Please post some sort of defense or at the very least what kind of reads you have on players whenever you have the time.


This quote reminds me a LOT of a quote by Xatalos in Mafia XV:

Suki, where are you when you need to defend yourself? The bandwagon on you is gathering steam, but you're nowhere to be seen. And I don't even think you're Mafia. Do a favor for everyone and show up right now.


This was what Xatalos posted in the game when there was a bandwagon growing on me while I was away. Basically, it's a last-ditch effort for mafia to tell their teammate to post, JUST IN CASE they weren't checking the mafia QT but were checking the main thread.

When Milton posted this, it stuck out to me as really odd. Now I think this is a pure scum slip, disguised to be a 'helpful townie' post. There is definite mafia motivation for this post, but not really any townie motivation.

Now contrast this with his certainty of trackd00r and unforgiven being scum. There has been no hesitation in his reads, no questioning of who could possibly be mafia. The person on the chopping block has been his main read every time.