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On June 21 2012 14:57 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 14:51 HiroPro wrote:On June 21 2012 14:46 xsksc wrote:On June 21 2012 14:35 HiroPro wrote:On June 21 2012 14:30 xsksc wrote:On June 21 2012 14:29 HiroPro wrote:On June 21 2012 14:25 xsksc wrote:
I'm Sherlock Holmes, the Detective
Every night I can investigate a player, and I'll get told if they're anti-town or non anti-town.
I was told I could be sane or insane.
I've determined that I am most definitely sane, as I checked KB n0 and he returned anti-town.
I checked BioSC n1 and he returned non anti-town. The reason I checked BioSC was that I knew someone was framed, and he had managed to stay fairly low profile. Bit of a waste in hindsight, but I had no idea he was about to be vig shot. At least it confirms my sanity. lol, 2 cops in a 15-man setup. We have a liar, ladies and gentleman. Read his filter, read my case, and then laugh at his claim. We're lynching him tomorrow. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599 That game had 6 survivors and 2 serial killers. Town was a minority of 7 people. It is not comparable. And your behavior has already shown that you are scum. Your claim is just icing on the cake. You argue that I'm scum because of how I reacted to Nisani's case. You yourself even said the case was bad, why would I risk exposing myself by reacting in such a way, to such a bad case that would never get me lynched? It was a bit over the top admittadly, but I was fucking annoyed by what he said. You said you don't want to argue this issue with me, but it's the core of your case on me... Your reaction is not townie. If you were town and the case was bad, then you would say "oh bad case", maybe get annoyed a little, and move on. But instead your response is not only defending yourself, but also painting doubt and suspicion on your accuser without directly calling them mafia. That is a scum tactic. Additionally your response is drastically different from the way that you described it as later "giving Nisani the benefit of the doubt". Giving him the benefit of the doubt was @ not pushing his lynch because I thought he may have just been playing the same way he did in steamship, go read that to see what I mean. I'm not calling my RESPONSE to his case the benefit of the doubt, lol.
That is an outright lie. The steamship part is you talking to drazerk.
On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote:
I should read the thread but that is too much effort ... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_-
The benefit of doubt is "I gave Nisani the benefit of the doubt earlier".
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On June 21 2012 15:00 xsksc wrote:
I've said it once I'll say it again, I'll say it a thousand times if I have to, I was annoyed.
Since when is pointing out hypocrisies in a case is a scum tactic? It's clear we have a different opinnion on the issue.
I have to go work tomorrow and I am going to go to sleep. This is the last thing I am responding to. Your response was not townie. I am not the only person who believes this. This is a direct quote from one of the vets who was in the Wheel of Fortune QT (I don't remember what this person's forum id is, someone who played in Wheel of Fortune probably remembers).
"However, when Ace responds, he acts exasperated, and says he doesn't give out all his reads on Day 1, which is obviously not what Bluelightz was asking for, and then asks what scumhunting Bluelightz himself has done. This moves suspicion off of Ace, and onto Bluelightz, while avoiding addressing Bluelightz's concerns, and can intimidate Bluelightz into not pursuing Ace further. I don't see that as a particularly townie way of replying."
Everyone please read my case and xsksc's filter. Do not waste discussion just because we are lynching Nisani today.
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I love how no one has commented on my actual case... Or noticed xsksc's lack of breadcrumbs...
On June 21 2012 23:02 ghost_403 wrote:
@hiro: I looked back for what made me think that, and I can't find it. I was thinking maybe I just misattributed it to Bio instead of someone else, but I can't find what post I was even thinking of. I'm curious as to why that's so important to you?
Stuff like that is important. Soft defending someone who flips town is an easy way to gain town cred. If you don't have a reason for it, then I have to wonder how you came to the conclusion that he was town.
Judging by hyaach's claim, Nisani is most likely the MA. We have no king - this is why I asked if anyone had been roleblocked. No one responded and Nisani did not answer my question when I asked him if he knew why we have no king. Now judging by his actions, Nisani is most likely a third party, not town. I have no idea what his wincons could be and obviously he's not willing to say.
I am Yugi Moto, the cardless survivor. I am linked with strong&big, the Neutral Surviving Balrog. The two of us win if either of us is alive at the end of this game. We have no powers and abilities (we can't even privately communicate) but we know each other's identities. We show up as not anti-town, and do not affect the win conditions of either town or anti-town.
The reason why I saved my roleclaim until the end is because if someone else claimed vanilla survivor (no friends, no powers), then I could identify their role as likely being a lie.
Also, message to scum/third-party, if you night kill me, you're not thinking, I don't matter for shit.
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If I were town, yes. But I don't give a shit, now. I'll do whatever the majority is going with.
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On June 22 2012 01:38 ghost_403 wrote:
Well, now, there's an interesting response.
Because I'm a neutral survivor, I don't really care about which side wins. But, as a survivor, what I do want is a short game, which means that it's in my best interest to be gunning for one side or the other. Being bulletproof, scum can't kill me, so that means I should be playing as pro-town as possible in this game.
You don't care. Why's that?
Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me.
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On June 22 2012 01:40 Drazerk wrote:Also since VT is guaranteed in the game and no one is counter claiming it does that mean I am confirmed VT? 
Yea bro, I was hoping I could be confirmed survivor, but I'm not 
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On June 22 2012 01:44 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 01:43 HiroPro wrote:On June 22 2012 01:40 Drazerk wrote:Also since VT is guaranteed in the game and no one is counter claiming it does that mean I am confirmed VT? Yea bro, I was hoping I could be confirmed survivor, but I'm not We could always shoot your bro to make you one
You're a coldhearted person
On June 22 2012 01:45 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:On June 22 2012 01:38 ghost_403 wrote:
Well, now, there's an interesting response.
Because I'm a neutral survivor, I don't really care about which side wins. But, as a survivor, what I do want is a short game, which means that it's in my best interest to be gunning for one side or the other. Being bulletproof, scum can't kill me, so that means I should be playing as pro-town as possible in this game.
You don't care. Why's that? Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me. To be fair, if your roleclaim is in any way true, time is running out for scum. There's probably 1 scum, and possibly 1 3rd party hiding in the dodgy roleclaims. They can't afford to shoot 3rd party.
eh, probably true. I'm a little worried about a 3rd party having some kp, though.
You really should read my case lol. But w/e. Your choice.
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ooh, nice breadcrumbs. Those are BH-quality breadcrumbs 
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On June 22 2012 02:47 Drazerk wrote:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ALIVE TO WIN
If you actually want town to win you will have to admit we need to rule out the possibility of you pulling a pretty huge gamble to blind side us. Seriously if you're town or town aligned you should never be afraid of death especially when your win condition doesn't even need you alive.
And I'm not even saying you have to be todays lynch like acro I think your a third priority but you must die at some point.
I think this is fine, s&b.
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I thought townies were good guys. But you're actually scheming monsters too
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On June 22 2012 04:54 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 04:48 talismania wrote:
well he's third party which is good to know.
can we please lynch into xsksc/hyaach/dropbear?
who do people want out of these three? No. I am getting lynched today. I'm not giving you guys any information unless I can be sure that I am lynched.
lol. You're a funny guy
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LOL, you made me king. hahahaha. 
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lol, i didn't know. I didn't receive anything telling me I was king.
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On June 22 2012 05:09 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 05:02 Nisani201 wrote:On June 22 2012 04:59 Acrofales wrote:
Interesting.
@Nisani: why did you make Hiro king? Were you that taken in by his chezinu deal?
@Hiro: that makes you look like the second scumteam. You claim you're helping town, but you could've helped us by saying this earlier. Instead you waited until Nisani figured it was time to tell us. If the Chezinu thing was real then I figured it would be cool to give him the illusion of power. I sent in an application. house chezinu mvp of this game.
Mods > Town
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UYECc.gif)
Bastard town => Where scumness is decided by lore and flipping coins.
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ghost, my man I got you covered already
On June 21 2012 12:27 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 12:10 HiroPro wrote:On June 21 2012 11:57 xsksc wrote:On June 21 2012 11:43 HiroPro wrote:
Anyone there? Just because we're lynching Nisani doesn't mean we stop talking... I'm here! What do you want to talk about? Yay! I'm still rereading people's filters but I'd like to get your opinion on DropBear. The way I see it, the cases that people have made on him being scum are based on the fact that he wanted to kill and backed off KB with weak reasoning, claimed vengeful townie, and never really mentioned MajuGarzett. Thing is I don't really agree with the first point at all as he seemed to provide good reasoning when Acrofales asked him (and I thought his original posting on KB even before was fairly clear in that he thought KB was scum for posting lots of contentless posts). I don't see anything crazy about his claim. And the third point is pretty weak in my opinion. And I thought his reaction to Acrofales's pressure was genuinely townie. I'd just like to hear what you personally think about this. And if you have any strong scum reads other than Nisani? Points 1 and 3 both apply to me as well, so no, I don't think they make him scum. Leaning town on DB, however I had some doubts about his claim (which I went over not too long ago and it's possible I was just overthinking things). Other strong scum reads - no, although I wouldn't mind Drazerk dying.
On June 21 2012 15:16 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 15:12 xsksc wrote:
DB, thoughts on me/Hiro's case?
Am I the only one that sees my claim as retarded as hell for scum?o.o I have said repeatedly that you are making more sense to me than anyone and you are the last person I would have lynched, even before your claim.
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On June 22 2012 07:29 strongandbig wrote:
On the other hand though, would the hosts really put so much about detective checks into the role PMs and setup info, and give scum a framing power, if there was no alignment detective?
Pinkie Pie was an alignment detective (his name is no longer BioSC). BioSC, if you're reading this right now, you should change your name to Pinkie Pie.
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You're making some assumptions that I wouldn't, but I'll let you figure it out
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Well and you're not making some that I would, but w/e.
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On June 22 2012 08:25 talismania wrote:
HiroPro didn't you say something about wanting to claim last so you could shit on another neutral survivor claim? Why hasn't that happened with respect to ghost?
On June 22 2012 00:42 HiroPro wrote:
The reason why I saved my roleclaim until the end is because if someone else claimed vanilla survivor (no friends, no powers), then I could identify their role as likely being a lie.
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DropBear meet talismania, talismania DropBear. 
On June 22 2012 07:32 talismania wrote:
Proposal:
Nisani wants to be lynched, we want to lynch scum.
We all vote dropbear, and nisani does what KB did and unvote votes to make sure he's the last one voting.
If the game ends because dropbear is the last scum, great.
If the game doesn't end, but dropbear is still scum, then we lynch nisani for possibly having an anti-town wincon (or one of the other 3p players).
If the game doesn't end because dropbear is town and telling the truth, then we've still gotten rid of nisani (and nisani has gotten rid of himself).
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