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Either that, or he decided that if he was going down, he'd try to help out other scum factions by sending town into chaos trying to figure this king thing out. I still think scumhunting and finding people for our illustrious king to kill is the proper move here, rather than chasing our tails trying to figure out the setup: there simply isn't enough information (yet). | ||
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 I am a vigi. To be precise, I am Ezio Auditorie de Firenze and I shot BioSC. Breadcrumb is + Show Spoiler [here] + On June 20 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote: Votecount looks normal. It means that either there was no doublevote/politician shenanigans, or those mechanics are hidden. Given this, I think the hypothesis that there was a king who got to choose the lynch is the most likely one atm. Something is wrong with 4F's theory that the king dies: there is so much redundant information in the AMA's role pm. He didn't need to be told that any king could only be named once if the king got murdered at the end of the day. Of everybody, I want DropBear to die most. Overall he looks incredibly scummy and the chance of his roleclaim being a blatant lie on top of that is just too much and he must die. The problem I have with Nisani is still mainly his roleclaim. I'm not sure that's enough to merit shooting tonight. No harm in putting him up for lynch tomorrow, though: he's still scummier than everybody else, including the trio of lurk (hyaach, biosc and xsksc). Going to watch the football match now. Drazerk: England is going to lose against the Ukraine, lol. On June 20 2012 19:48 Acrofales wrote: Tweedledeedledum, I have found a scum! After a quick look over BioSC's filter I don't think any other conclusion is possible. Ridiculously lacking in any useful content whatsoever. Given this lack of content, I started digging a bit deeper. Earlier, we caught Majuju, based mainly on Hiro's excellent case, based on Maju's stance on Chezinu. Take a look at BioSC's opinion of Chezinu: it is exactly the same. Cautiously trying to gain information without actually giving an opinion one way or the other. Here are some gems from his filter: + Show Spoiler [Ho Hum, Bio Scum] + On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote: If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game. Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit? I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D On June 17 2012 14:27 BioSC wrote: Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible. After this, there's only his case on KB, which was exactly enough to let him fly under the radar for all the rest of D1. Nothing else of use is in his filter, which would be pretty incriminating by itself, but lets look further. Go and look at this, his filter in his only other TL Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763 Eeee gads! This filter is chock-a-block full of PBPA. He may have been wrong in Newbie XIII, but he was very VOCALLY wrong. Now look at his filter this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763 Something tells me he learned from his newbie game: lurker scum wins... so he's giving it a try! Sorry BioSC. I really liked your posts... I just thought you were scum. Blues shouldn't lurk I like Hiro's plan and unless someone can think of a reason why I should post my extra losscon before Nisani does, I'm waiting to see what Nisani has to say. Also, there was no king appointed?! | ||
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On June 21 2012 03:09 talismania wrote: Thoughts on mass claim? I think there's just two anti-town left. Either that, or there's anti-town without straightforward KP. | ||
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On June 21 2012 03:21 Drazerk wrote: Huh that breadcrumb is amazing And why me  I'm glad you like it. And it was a bitch to come up with. I wanted you dead because I was pissed off about you not reading your role pm. After claiming you were town you went afk, which is highly suspicious for you. However, you came back during the night and I actually liked your posts, so I relented and looked for a different target. I figured DropBear and Nisani are major lynch candidates today, so figured I'd look into the people I hadn't looked closely yet. I almost changed my target to Nisani when BioSC started posting, but his posting style and the case were just so weird (and cute), that they confused me more than convinced me he was town. I couldn't find a scum motive for posting so weird, but it isn't exactly townie either. I then thought of you and remembered that strange posting styles can be employed by scum to seem inoccuous  So I went through with the shot. Wrongly. | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:16 Nisani201 wrote: Hi everyone! How about this: I wont talk today unless you all agree not to lynch me? If you're town, this is playing against your wincon. You are clearly not helping us solve the clusterfuck you got yourself into. So not talking today means we lynch you. In fact, to give this some extra punch: ##vote Nisani How's that for agreeing "not" to lynch you today? If you're scum, go right ahead and shut up all day. It'll make our lives incredibly easy!  | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:04 DropBear wrote: Why would mafia shoot Acrofales? He's been blindly tunnelling a townie all game and he just shot a detective. Sounds like the perfect person to keep alive. Good news, crazy koala dude. You're no longer my top scum read! | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:40 Nisani201 wrote: But wait, that would still be playing against my win-con! Are you biased towards town? Yes. You jelly? | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:08 Drazerk wrote: Possibly because he is the only person playing pro town But if he survives another day I kill him because he shouldn't be left alive at that stage. I'm not the only one playing pro-town. Give Tali and ET some credit here. Gonna go over ET's filter in a minute. Could be that ghost_403 shot him.. he was the only one to be suspicious of 4F. | ||
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I know it's all wifom. I'm just throwing the theory out there before I look into ET and 4F/ghost's filter in detail. | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:51 talismania wrote: Acro I'm still wanting to hear what your extra loss condition and all the stuff in your pm about king and MA. __________ Nisani is clearly MA? I don't understand this behavior from a scum perspective. You do understand this behaviour from a town perspective? There's a consensus that he must roleclaim or die. I'm not sure that's a good idea, but it's clearly going to happen, so might as well roll with it. A town Nisani should be trying to prevent a mislynch. He clearly has no interest in preventing a mislynch. Maybe his extra wincon was to outlive the AMA, so he doesn't give a fuck, or maybe he's scum. | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:51 talismania wrote: Acro I'm still wanting to hear what your extra loss condition and all the stuff in your pm about king and MA. __________ Nisani is clearly MA? I don't understand this behavior from a scum perspective. Forgot the first part of this post. Nisani is clearly not going to claim. There's nothing in my role pm that really gets anybody any further than they have... most of it has been disclosed. The reason my role pm says anything about the MA and the king is because, similarly to Tali, if I shot the person being made king by the MA, I would end up dead instead. My extra losscon is exactly that: if I die from trying to shoot the future king (at night he wouldn't be king yet), then I lose. I presume that means that if town wins I'd get a special mention as the derp who shot the king. I was also promised a "bonus" if I shot anti-town, but now I'll never know what that is. | ||
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Then with all the night speculation that the king is someone who gets nominated to die, I didn't want to shoot into the people everybody thought was scummy, on the off chance that that theory was right (and they'd be prime lynch candidates anyway). | ||
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SitRep as far as roles go: HiroPro --- ? Tali --- used dayvig Acro --- used vig Drazerk --- VT Ghost --- ? deconduo --- used objectivist DropBear --- vengeful townie Hyaach --- ? SnB --- ? xsksc --- unspecified blueclaim Nisani --- unspecified blueclaim ET --- dead medic BSC --- dead cop KB --- dead SK Maju --- dead scum | ||
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On June 21 2012 05:43 DropBear wrote: Acro why did you shoot BioSC when you were on my case the entire day? I've explained that twice already. | ||
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On June 21 2012 05:52 xsksc wrote: Alright, I'll fullclaim in 30mins or so if nobody objects. I object. I want to hear from some other people first. The setup might make a mass claim rather risky and anybody with information on town maybe losing its edge should say why. Imho we don't really need the MA alive. The king is a fun mechanic, but as long as we can lynch by vote, we can win the game. However, there might be some info we're missing that makes the MA or some other role essential to keep hidden. | ||
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On June 21 2012 06:20 DropBear wrote: I'm sick of making perfect sense and being told it makes me mafia. I spent all of yesterday defending myself against the most retarded case I have ever seen yet somehow getting the most votes. The person who pushed it the hardest just shot a detective and it's being shrugged off. Incidentally, you spelt Auditore incorrectly in your claim Acrofales. Blame Zephirdd for that, not me. I'm playing with the name he gave me. Who are you to claim my name is spelled wrong anyway? If I want to be Ezio Auditorie, I bloody well will be. Also, did you actually read the case I made on BioSC before deciding I was dumb for shooting him? I also waited for opinions from a number of people in the thread. Most people agreed that he was a scummy lurker and not a townie lurker. If you thought he was town why didn't you say so in the approx. 10 hours between my case and the shot? | ||
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All I've gotten from you since the pressure is off is a load of butthurt wining, which is actually making me think you're scum again. Yes, I did some reevaluating during the night which made me think I might have put you too high on my scumometer. Now I'm thinking I was right after all. You're lucky Nisani exists or I'd still be sticking to you like a fly on honey (and none of your funky hats with corks would chase me away). Instead of crying about it, take the time to help out and prove you're actually town! | ||
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