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On June 21 2012 12:36 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 12:30 Nisani201 wrote:
I've already talked about why I think xsksc is scum; read my filter.
Other aspects of my thought process will be explained at the end of today and possibly post-game if you have any more questions. You made one post on him and then after that all you've done is say that he should be lynched..... Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc You haven't contributed anything since that one post. Why?
Because unlike you, I have to explain to people why I'm not scum. And because there are other ways to contribute to the game without writing analyses.
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On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make.
"Is that a crow I hear, calling the raven black?"
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Wow, what a shitty night.
I think Nisani201 is 3rd party.
While the King could be town, I don't think the MA is necessery of the same alignment.
And Acrofales action is very discriminating towards himself.
He has been playing pro-town. But the shot is just weird.
If not for his incredible breadcrumb and play. I would be voting him in a heartbeat now.
Just to make my stance clear, I'm null on Acrofale's alignment now.
If you read BioSC's filter, he has been breadcrumbing since the start.
On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:28 Drazerk wrote:
From this point on I am now ignoring any post that has anything to do with House Chezinu
I advice everyone else does the same so we can play a normal game If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game. Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit? I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D
On June 20 2012 21:02 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 19:21 Acrofales wrote:On June 18 2012 02:27 BioSC wrote:
Is it just me, or did the bastard voting thread say "votes before and after the deadline don't count"? *Phoenix Wright Point* I spy a conundrum! Yo Bio, you claiming here you are also Phoenix Wright? Or is this just a coincidence? Nopey-Dopey! It was a coincidence, and a funny couincidence at that! I didn't know about a "Phoenix Wright" role, I guess you could say that I had some kind of freaky sense about it! Besides, Feenie used his power, why would I claim it now? + Show Spoiler +On June 20 2012 19:48 Acrofales wrote:Tweedledeedledum, I have found a scum! After a quick look over BioSC's filter I don't think any other conclusion is possible. Ridiculously lacking in any useful content whatsoever. Given this lack of content, I started digging a bit deeper. Earlier, we caught Majuju, based mainly on Hiro's excellent case, based on Maju's stance on Chezinu. Take a look at BioSC's opinion of Chezinu: it is exactly the same. Cautiously trying to gain information without actually giving an opinion one way or the other. Here are some gems from his filter: + Show Spoiler [Ho Hum, Bio Scum] +On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:28 Drazerk wrote:
From this point on I am now ignoring any post that has anything to do with House Chezinu
I advice everyone else does the same so we can play a normal game If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game. Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit? I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D On June 17 2012 14:27 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote:
Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys? Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible. After this, there's only his case on KB, which was exactly enough to let him fly under the radar for all the rest of D1. Nothing else of use is in his filter, which would be pretty incriminating by itself, but lets look further. Go and look at this, his filter in his only other TL Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763Eeee gads! This filter is chock-a-block full of PBPA. He may have been wrong in Newbie XIII, but he was very VOCALLY wrong. Now look at his filter this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763Something tells me he learned from his newbie game: lurker scum wins... so he's giving it a try! Or, I learned that you shouldn't just stick to one target! In that game, I picked one person, Anacletus, and tunneled him so hard, like a mole! Or a Prarie dog! ... Something that tunnels! I learned that you should make your read and still stay open to other reads, especially when there is this many people! I even wrote a letter about it! Too much about this post is WIFOM-y to me, so I'll leave it at that! My filter may lack in content, but the person I made a case on turned out to be pretty anti town to me. Flying under the radar or not, I'm eliminating anti-town, even if it happened due to forces I can't control, and I know about forces I can't control!Zephirdd's right, the world needs more hearts, welcome to the game Ghostie! *giggles* ♥♥♥
I have no idea what to think of this line. Is this referring to his n0 target? Is this referring to KH?
or is this referring to Nisani201?
Thoughts people?
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I don't think those are breadcrumbs.His role was a MLP character, right? So I think he was trying to talk like them, lol.
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Or I don't know the second one may be, but I don't see anything that it could stand for.
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From my understanding of a breadcrumb, its something that will substantiate your role claim ?
and his whole posting style is one big crumb really. lol
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Well usually you breadcrumb actions also, not just a role. But I can't find anything like that from looking through his filter.
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And actually that's not a breadcrumb at all lol, because like it doesn't indicate that he's a detective, it just indicates that he's a pony/animated character, which could pretty much be any role lol.
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scratch that i think it was referring to KH
On June 18 2012 10:15 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:--Snipped-- xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc What do you think about xsksc's case on KB? Right now it makes a lot of sense to me, and I know when things don't make sense. Do you think he's right or wrong? Do you think that KB is acting like a bastard?
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EBWOP Right now it makes a lot of sense to me, and I know when things don't make sense
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Sorry, I don't understand. Could you explain?
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I decided to go with the easiest explanation.
He investigated KB(i realize my typo now) on n0 and was returned with an anti-town check.
Thus the case actually made a lot of sense to him.
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So I think we should roleclaim today. Most of our big town people have already used their powers while the unknowns are less active, so I don't think a role claim really hurts in any way now. Nisani isn't going to do it, but he's getting lynched today, so it doesn't matter.
I will claim last - I have a good reason for this. You will have to trust me. The people who need to claim are:
ghost_403
hyaach
strongandbig
xsksc
HiroPro
xsksc
Most of the opinions and reads that xsksc has advocated so far have been those wildly held in the thread: KB and Nisani look scummy, DropBear's claim is weird cause he has no name. Apart from these, there's just not really that much original thoughts or stuff in his filter. The biggest thing about xsksc, though is the way that he interacts with nisani.
First, I will show what xsksc voiced about nisani on his own. Then I will talk about the interaction itself.
At first, xsksc says that he doesn't like nisani's decision to ally with the House, as not much is known about it. Much later after Maju's death and DB's post, xsksc says that Nisani should be lynched.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote:
I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game.
Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear. On June 19 2012 14:11 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 13:39 DropBear wrote:NISANI201 IS A SCUMBAGDefends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL. Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide. The case on xsksc is terrible. Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself. NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE I gave Nisani the benefit of the doubt earlier, I thought he was just being bad lol. Maju's flip is pretty condemning for him, he looks a lot more likely to be the scum partner than KB does. That's not to say I think KB is town, though. I don't think he's AS likely to bleed "pure scum", as it were. TLDR I agree, Nisani would be a good lynch.
Now for the interaction:
On June 18 2012 09:49 xsksc wrote:Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol. In response to Nisanis vote - Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.
xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town? As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead. I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution. Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him. Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.
Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical.
On June 18 2012 10:23 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 10:14 Nisani201 wrote:On June 18 2012 09:49 xsksc wrote:Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol. In response to Nisanis vote - On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.
xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town? As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead. I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution. On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.
On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him. On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.
Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical. Yes indeed, contributing without contributing seems to be a common theme this game. Not my fault. I don't think you quite got my point there.. You have contributed fuck all, and you are in no position to point that particular flaw out in everyone elses play.
The way that xsksc defends himself from Nisani is not townie at all. Townies either explain their own behavior further or show how the other person's argument is flawed. By accusing Nisani of "hypocrisy with copy-paste attacks "and saying "You have contributed fuck all, and you are in no position to point that particular flaw out in everyone elses play." xsksc is trying to make Nisani go away by directly attacking Nisani's credibility. He is making Nisani look bad while defending himself. This is not a town characteristic or town play at all, especially when you consider that later on xsksc says that "he was giving Nisani the benefit of the doubt". These are direct attacks, not "giving benefit of the bout". This is what scum do.
Additionally, the points that xsksc advocates about third party being more important to lynch in this game than scum; that is scummy also.
ghost needs to be a lot more active. When you are free, please answer my question from earlier.
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Look at nisani's filter before he argued I was making easy posts. That's why I got annoyed at him. 
I never said 3rd party are more important than scum, I said I want to lynch them more than usual.
You want me to claim?
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Massroleclaim is fine but are we so sure Nisani201 does not have a dayshot?
He switched from giving a fk to scumhunting. Why the sudden change in attitude?
I'm not defending xsdxdx because I have a null read from a last read and am going out now but Maju's PM says he wins when scums outnumbers town, 3rd party not counted.
So focus on eliminating 3rd party is not that condemning in this game.
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I wish someone would update the player list with the dead players.
Tomorrow we should lynch DropBear or xsksc.
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On June 21 2012 14:10 xsksc wrote:Look at nisani's filter before he argued I was making easy posts. That's why I got annoyed at him. I never said 3rd party are more important than scum, I said I want to lynch them more than usual. You want me to claim?
I am not going to argue with this about you. But no, it is not about being annoyed. Townies get annoyed too; it is about deliberately trying to make a person look bad when they are coming after you.
Yes, I want you to claim.
On June 21 2012 14:11 Hyaach wrote:
Massroleclaim is fine but are we so sure Nisani201 does not have a dayshot?
He switched from giving a fk to scumhunting. Why the sudden change in attitude?
I'm not defending xsdxdx because I have a null read from a last read and am going out now but Maju's PM says he wins when scums outnumbers town, 3rd party not counted.
So focus on eliminating 3rd party is not that condemning in this game.
I don't see Nisani scumhunting lol.
It's not that third parties matter for the scum win condition; it's that going after third parties give scum valuable town cred and allows them to make it look like they are doing stuff.
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In case you guys are wondering, I already fulfilled my extra win condition. All that's left is for you guys to kill the anti-town people, allowing me to get a double-win!
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But I should add that you have to kill the anti-town people AFTER you lynch me. That's super important.
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