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On June 19 2012 13:51 DropBear wrote: I also am unsure what to think of deconduo. This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here: This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate? He has soft defended Maju a few times but. did you read the thread? | ||
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On June 19 2012 13:39 DropBear wrote: NISANI201 IS A SCUMBAG Defends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL. Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide. The case on xsksc is terrible. Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself. NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE This actually is a pretty good catch. Hiro already made the case that 201 is scum/3rd party, and he leaned survivor. That maju connection pushes that feeling towards scum. The beauty of the situation is that since there are multiple factions, you could both be Anti-town! I'm willing to shelve DB for Nisani. Thoughts? | ||
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Playing a tight game isn't inherently scummy, but it's how I usually play scum. Which is why I still haven't been lynched as scum (ss mafia doesn't count). It's kind of why I took a look at you in the first place. The only big opinion you laid down earlier was on KB, despite a decent amount of thread hullabaloo going on. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:10 Nisani201 wrote:My main understanding of the "house chezinu" mainly came from Merc Mini 2 where I played with Chezinu, and he was acting very similar to Hiro's play in this game. In that game Chezinu was a bulletproof SK and I figured that it was very likely Hiro had a lot of power. I didn't want to get stuck in some stupid feud with a third party when I could have been scumhunting. Furthermore, I didn't really see any downside to allying with the House... and no one has pointed one out; people have been saying that this kind of affiliation with it is scummy but I don't really see why that is. This is a weird statement from Nisani. He bases the fact that he wanted to ally with HiroPro on the past reference of Chezinu being a bulletproof SK. If he was town, wouldn't he be immediately suspicious of someone he thought was a bulletproof SK? SK's, though 3rd party, want to kill town mates unlike survivors. His reasoning is "I didn't want to get stuck in some feud when I could be scumhunting", but that doesn't make much sense; if he really believed that HiroPro was a SK type, then he should've been going after HiroPro. The only issue is that it's Nisani, and he's always a btch to read. | ||
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##unvote ##Vote: Nisani201 12 Hours to lynch. Any other contenders? | ||
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On June 19 2012 16:38 talismania wrote: I will say this again: it's really unlikely nisani is maju's partner. Nisani claimed "a crazy role" with "extra win and extra lose" wincons. The existence of "extra lose" wincons was backed up by acrofales. Maju did not have any of these wincons. Therefore I find it an incredibly fortunate lie by nisani to have made that up if he is indeed maju's partner. More likely, nisani is third party or something. This is actually quite. Nisani is probably 3rd party unless he simply lied about having multiple win. Now that I think about it, when he said "I don't want to start a feud with a potentially strong faction", that sounds a lot like a 3rd party saying "I don't want any trouble boys, do your thing". Add in that he hasn't been hiding to the extent that Maju did, means that I'm fairly confident Nisani is 3rd.cons. Whether he is an SK-type or a survivor-type we don't know. You guys have to remember that 1. Maju appears to only have 1 partner, and 2. there are likely to be SK types or other mafia factions. With that in mind, just because someone does mention, or doesn't mention Maju doesn't damn them or exonerate them. The associative tell is stronger in a standard game; in this setup, we can't just say "DropBear didn't mention Maju, must be his partner". We're running very low on time. I am not saying this to fearmonger; I am saying this because we have to decide on a lynch ASAP and last minute sht never works. Nisani is probably 3rd party; a lynch on him would be OK; but I do consider it less likely that he will flip anti-town due to his behavior. I need to think about it more. Nisani is my backup lynch preference if the next 8 hours is a shit show, as I doubt he's Town, but I would prefer to find someone scummier. It's quite possible he's a harmless 3rd, and he hasn't been completely non-constructive or whatever the heck. | ||
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On June 19 2012 17:27 Hyaach wrote: Just because I'm not around at spam time does not mean I'm lurking. You allying with House Chezinu does not prove your alignment at best. at worst, it makes you look like 3rd party. Information that would benefit town and 3rd party alike is not very telling of you. Most of your question was on N0. Then when Talis asked you questions about the set up, you pop up a defensive question How is that a case? If anything he has the same play as you making post in thread which are easy to make. And you are not even committing on this case. You kept asking around for opinions on him. Seems to me you are waiting for response before you fully commit. Why so wishy washy? And no you attacking my cases on you will not make me back down. If i can't convince, just read his filter yourself. this post is pretty derp. The comment where you say do the "at best" "at worst" thing regarding Chezinu doesn't mean anything. The correct statement is "you allying with Chezinu does not prove your alignment.", but you put in that second bit to find a reason to call him bad. I also dislike when people ask about my role and wincon. Because, you know, usually you don't want to post your role and wincon in thread whether town scum or 3rd. His "defensive question" isn't scummy. His case on xsksc is adequate. You don't need a big fat PBPA analysis case of w.e. I am liking a Nisani lynch less and less, especially seeing the people who are for it. Hmmm.... I think I'm going to agree with what's been said by Tali/Nisani so far. ##Unvote: ##Vote: xslsc | ||
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As far I can tell, the only viable candidates are Nisani201, DropBear, xsksc, or KB. Pick between then; since it's plurality lynch, there isn't as much rush hullabaloo to consolidate, but you best put your reasoning down. I'd like opinions on xsksc, because there hasn't been much discussion on him. He also stated that he might not be around for deadline, which is troubling. | ||
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Nisani (5): dropbear, xsksc, hiropro, deconduo, Hyaach xsksc (3): nisani, tali, ET DropBear (2): Drazerk, Acro KharadBanar (1): BioSC MajuGarzett (1): KB EchelonTee (1): FourFace Not Voted: Strongandbig Nisani to be lynched. Kharad still hasn't changed his vote from the dead Maju =/ maybe I was wrong about him. Given the chance for a breather, he uses it to lurk instead of contribute or be townie or anything. I consider BioSC's vote a throwaway; I highly doubt he is Town. Completely unconcerned with what has been going on lately. Voting someone who is highly unlikely to be lynched at this point suggests that you are unconcerned with who will be lynched, and of the people voting low count players, BioSC is by far the most scummy. FourFace has also been absent for a while, since his case on me got shut down. And where the heck is SnB? | ||
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when are the bastard roles going to come out?? | ||
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On June 20 2012 03:36 HiroPro wrote: Guys guys, I've discovered the secret to this setup. Maju looked scummy - he was scum. KB looked scummy - he was anti-town third party. Nisani201 looks scummy. We should lynch him!!!! lol I can't argue with that logic since I was beating you over the head with it on maju | ||
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On June 20 2012 03:13 FourFace wrote: I'm checking ET tonight. You can't convince me otherwise .. only the thread can. announcing checks ftw lol... very unlikely that there will be any role that can obsfucate your check, yeah -.- or, simply put, roleblocker. lol..................... did you think this claim through? On June 20 2012 03:09 BioSC wrote: Wowzie! a scum AND a 3rd party lynch! Good start for us townies! I'm glad to have been on the right track! 5/5 would read again | ||
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On June 20 2012 05:15 Nisani201 wrote: FourFace: you should check out of DropBear, Drazerk, and xsksc. Tell us in the morning who you checked and what you got. what es this blue directing am I seriously the only one who's like "wtf dt claim"? Did I miss a memo where DTs in this game have their checks put through without manipulation or something? | ||
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On June 20 2012 06:12 FourFace wrote: Read the setup description AND CORRECTION LADIES AND GENTS. During night 0, you and your ally may chose a player to Frame. That player will be read as anti-town for all future checks, and will flip as "Framed [Role]". You and your partner have 1 KP per night starting from Night 1 I repeat during night 0 so the frame has been done .. no more framing power.. means EchelonTee is a moron for saying this. And the way he said it. You are so below my level of intellect. I read the setup description. 1. there could be more framers. just because a framer died n0 doesn't mean they're gone. 2. there could be RBers. just because you weren't RB'd last night doesn't mean you won't be RB'd today. The setup clearly implies the existance of RBers. 3. you can't know there won't be manipulation. this is a fcking bastard game. And I don't even know why you claimed; you could've easily claimed later and not had to deal with the possibility of manipulation. This is shit blue play lol. The players from my newbie game would stomp you. | ||
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On June 20 2012 06:18 FourFace wrote: But wait .. Actually why have a roleblocker when you can frame. Idn, anyway it seems unlikely to have a roleblocker, but we'll find out if he decides to block me. Seems unlikely?? How???? you are jst saying random shit that you feel like saying lol always worth a chuckle | ||
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On June 20 2012 06:15 FourFace wrote: There will be no manipulation as stated earlier. I seriously suggest we reconsider DropBear and let me go through with checking and the MA crowning ET. Pretty please. Actually nah.. let him suffer for a while. MA -> crown DropBear becasue that's what we decided upon during the day. wtf is this shit? you still want me dead? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo either you know a lot more about this setup than all of us or you are just a raving lunatic | ||
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