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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#587
I don't know whether he's scum or survivor. Usually, I just lynch scummy people when I see them. That a bad playstyle?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 19:59 GMT
#592
On June 19 2012 03:36 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

No one has given much defense on Maju. I'm not going to do your work for you; look at his filter; scummy as fuck.

Evidence?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599

what's his filter look like? a bunch of questions to random people, no direction AT ALL
how many people has he called scum ? 0 <<<

I point you to my TL LV case:
Look at Maju's posts: who has he called out as suspicious? [redacted, it's 0 in this game]

Who does he make a case on? ....No one.

How many posts does he have? A decent amount. That's what I mean by "extremely low content to post ratio". He has almost no interest in scumhunting based on the amount of posts he has that aren't scumhunting.


lynch this scum Maju, it's so obvious that it baffles me

There's my case.
On June 19 2012 03:52 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
Reflections regarding EchelonTee;

1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE.

He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either.
He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle.
Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo
A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it.

First point; says I'm scummy about talking House Chezinu. Literally everyone else talked about the house to some extent. His reasoning for saying I'm scummy is that "a town player would stfu about this"; so is everyone who talked about the hosue scummy? During N0, that house thing is the only topic that generated any significant discussion; it's not anti-town to talk about the fcking town topic. This is a weak point at best.
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
2)
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts?


That's pathetic

Second point; so Drazerk can troll, but I have to be serious. Game is fun.

On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute

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On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote:
well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang.


ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion.

TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind.
3rd point; what does this even mean? He is assuming I am scum and saying "he realized that no scum would apply to the circle, so he wants to apply and corrupt the town circle"????????????? so simply wanting to be in a mason circle is scummy?? no it's not lol!!!

On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
4) projected morale

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On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote:
this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out


I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness.
4th, so I'm not enjoying this game, now I'm scum. LOL[/quote]
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
5)
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there is no mafia faction lolololo
- which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree.

Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending.
Seeing no deaths, I consider the possibility of mafia faction; what other game didn't have a mafia faction? Bastard 1. Am I an idiot for considering the possibility? Apparently so. lol....
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
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On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol

totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p

Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town.
-His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy.



6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise.
6th, so I'm scummy for thinking that scummy people are scum. Alright....................................
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
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On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.

Do people not think Maju is scummy?


Gay, and lazy and careless imo.

##Vote: EchelonTee
Then he calls me gay, justifying my scumminess.

where's the case I DONT SEE IT[/QUOTE]There's my defense.


On June 19 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote:In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think.

"Wants to join mason circle without revealing his alignment, this is scummy". This statement is hilariously illogical. If I was scum, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was town, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was neutral, I would join the circle saying I am town. Wanting to join a mason circle is not a scum position.

There was no night kill, and no claimed hit. There is a possibility that there is no mafia because of that. There was no mafia faction in the bastard 1. It is not scummy for me to make a logical conclusion.

Anything else, HiroPro?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:01 GMT
#593
EBWOP:
On June 19 2012 04:59 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 03:36 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

No one has given much defense on Maju. I'm not going to do your work for you; look at his filter; scummy as fuck.

Evidence?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599

what's his filter look like? a bunch of questions to random people, no direction AT ALL
how many people has he called scum ? 0 <<<

I point you to my TL LV case:
Look at Maju's posts: who has he called out as suspicious? [redacted, it's 0 in this game]

Who does he make a case on? ....No one.

How many posts does he have? A decent amount. That's what I mean by "extremely low content to post ratio". He has almost no interest in scumhunting based on the amount of posts he has that aren't scumhunting.


lynch this scum Maju, it's so obvious that it baffles me

There's my case.
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 03:52 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
Reflections regarding EchelonTee;

1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE.

He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either.
He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle.
Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo
A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it.

First point; says I'm scummy about talking House Chezinu. Literally everyone else talked about the house to some extent. His reasoning for saying I'm scummy is that "a town player would stfu about this"; so is everyone who talked about the hosue scummy? During N0, that house thing is the only topic that generated any significant discussion; it's not anti-town to talk about the fcking town topic. This is a weak point at best.
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
2)
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts?


That's pathetic

Second point; so Drazerk can troll, but I have to be serious. Game is fun.

On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote:
well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang.


ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion.

TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind.
3rd point; what does this even mean? He is assuming I am scum and saying "he realized that no scum would apply to the circle, so he wants to apply and corrupt the town circle"????????????? so simply wanting to be in a mason circle is scummy?? no it's not lol!!!
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
4) projected morale

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote:
this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out


I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness.
4th, so I'm not enjoying this game, now I'm scum. LOL
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
5)
Show nested quote +
there is no mafia faction lolololo
- which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree.

Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending.
Seeing no deaths, I consider the possibility of mafia faction; what other game didn't have a mafia faction? Bastard 1. Am I an idiot for considering the possibility? Apparently so. lol....
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol

totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p

Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town.
-His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy.



6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise.
6th, so I'm scummy for thinking that scummy people are scum. Alright....................................
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.

Do people not think Maju is scummy?


Gay, and lazy and careless imo.

##Vote: EchelonTee
Then he calls me gay, justifying my scumminess.

where's the case I DONT SEE IT
There's my defense.


Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:52 HiroPro wrote:In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think.

"Wants to join mason circle without revealing his alignment, this is scummy". This statement is hilariously illogical. If I was scum, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was town, I would join the circle saying I am town. If I was neutral, I would join the circle saying I am town. Wanting to join a mason circle is not a scum position.

There was no night kill, and no claimed hit. There is a possibility that there is no mafia because of that. There was no mafia faction in the bastard 1. It is not scummy for me to make a logical conclusion.

Anything else, HiroPro?

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:20 GMT
#614
On June 18 2012 09:58 xsksc wrote:
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On June 18 2012 09:57 DropBear wrote:
Can you shoot KB talismania?


I'm not sure if it's worth wasting the shot. Who would you lynch if KB was out of the equation?

This is the only thing that really caught my eye about xsksc. Doesn't want his biggest scumread to be shot?

Overall though, need more info. Don't agree with him being lynched today.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:21 GMT
#616
On June 19 2012 05:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 03:39 HiroPro wrote:
I made the case on Maju lol. I've read his filter; but he responded okay to me, and I think it's more likely that he's a survivor than scum.

And we played together in MTG. That's not the way you're playing this game.

I have no idea how Maju plays as town, but his defense to you was not decent. It gave a rather thin explanation for why he fired off questions at night, but he failed to do anything useful. Maju is looking scummy to me.

hallelujah

sane people have returned

inb4 buddying
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:25 GMT
#622
am I REALLY the only one who didn't get an exciting role?

I just remembered the damn king, lol. It would be so lame if kind just determines the lynch or w.e.

Day is halfway over. It's time to consolidate. I feel pretty strongly about maju being anti-town; opinions?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:26 GMT
#623
DropBear is my secondary lynch preference.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:40 GMT
#644
DropBear

His first post is fairly fluffy regarding the house, talking about "I don't not trust you, but I don't trust you", and "VE lolol", which isn't ordinarily a big concern for the early game, but considering that his suspicion on KB is for talking about "filler", it's hypocritical. Esp. since KB's speculation is more relevant than DB's (KB specifically says be careful with your alignment.

Same point, DB is implying that KB being diplomatic towards the House is scummy, even though DB's first post was diplomatic as fck.

He warps some logic when trying to tunnel KB more. He uses the fact that Nisani is defending him as a reason to call KB scummy; there is no associative tell to make, you don't know Nisani's alignment. I already adressed the House comments. The "scumslip" he mentions isn't much. The biggest reason why he calls KB is scum is because "has big fluffy posts where he doesn't say much", but KB has been doing a lot more since then, which DB ignores.

He's been playing a very tight game where his only accusation is on KB, considered to be an "easy accusation". This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. Make an accusation that is easy, don't post much else on other topics.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:43 GMT
#646
Tali, you should shoot soon if you have an informed decision. Don't make it last minute; we can use the flip to help figure out the lynch.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:44 GMT
#648
On June 19 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 04:46 HiroPro wrote:
On June 19 2012 04:41 EchelonTee wrote:
I don't know whether he's scum or survivor. Usually, I just lynch scummy people when I see them. That a bad playstyle?


When you're not explaining anything, when you refuse to make proper reads, when you advocate scum positions, when you lightly defend yourself without saying anything, I call that being scum. Because this is clearly not the way you play as town.

But Maju did all of those (except really advocate scum positions... he didn't make enough posts to do that), yet you're saying he's survivor. How does that work?

It doesn't. HiroPro is twisting logic. We'll get to him later.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:45 GMT
#650
npnpnpnpn, just want to make sure you don't do it too last minute.

Maju or Dropbear. Vote em or bring a better case.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 20:49 GMT
#654
On June 19 2012 05:46 Drazerk wrote:
god damn you ET T_T

wat?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 21:51 GMT
#694
On June 19 2012 05:53 FourFace wrote:He's insulting me, insulting Hiro for giving his enforcing opinion on the case and now he's all over the thread and still hasn't made any noteworthy contribution; and again he is insulting which I, believe it or not, didn't intent to be when I said his moves were gay.. in the gamer sense of the word. I obviously wasn't saying anything about his or anyone else's orientation.
PS: marvellosity gtfo

You called me gay as an insult, and you have the nerve to say I am being insulting? "In the gamer sense of the word"? Disgusting.

"Hasn't made any noteworthy contribution"? Lying.

Tell me what you think of DB and Maju.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 21:53 GMT
#696
!! deconduo about to do something
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 22:02 GMT
#702
On June 19 2012 06:59 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:52 deconduo wrote:
Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please?

I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town



I'm nervous - is that going to do something?

I am a dayvig. I am going to shoot within the next five hours. If I don't, I will be lynched.

Tali, I recommend you do it, if you are actually town. I have an idea of what it is.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 22:49 GMT
#791
deconduo you whiffed it!!!! cmon man
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 18 2012 23:53 GMT
#840
I don't agree with a KB shot; I think he's town. It feels like a mis-shot. I don't agree with the cases put forth as I touched upon on my DropBear post, and posts like these feel townie to me.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 19 2012 00:57 GMT
#863
FUCK

YES

FUCK YES

EAT IT HIROPRO EAT IT FUCK YES
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 19 2012 00:58 GMT
#864
man i just screamed out loud, that makes me so gdam happy lolllllllllllllll
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 19 2012 01:03 GMT
#867
Yeah, sorry for the outburst. Just happy.

I know I called you scum or something like that once, but I'm not very interested in you atm. We should look at people who soft defended Maju, but the fact that he only has one(?) partner means it might not be easy to find an easy connection.

There was 1KP last night and it was never accounted for. If you're town, it'd probably be best to claim it so we have pertinent information; since no one claimed, I am going to currently assume that a neutral or another anti-town faction was shot.
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