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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:18 GMT
#681
On June 19 2012 06:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:58 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:56 talismania wrote:
Can I have people's reads/opinions/impressions of strongandbig?


I think he has a seperate win con to murder someone

I think this is the same win con that 201 / Acro has

I can ONLY win with town. I can lose with town... and additionally I can lose if something bad happens. No clue what Nisani's extra wincon is.


You're the monarchist activist and you can lose if the king dies? Just a guess. I kinda doubt it because you said you were going to claim D2.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18412 Posts
June 18 2012 21:22 GMT
#682
On June 19 2012 06:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:17 Acrofales wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:01 talismania wrote:
So... does anyone else think deconduo was scarily accurate when he described this as an assassins + kingmaker setup?

Right now reading between the lines it sounds like there's a bunch of people who can win with town (or with scum?) but get an extra bonus if they're the one to night kill the MA or King or something like that. Maybe extra lose if they accidentally kill the other or some other role.


And this is where my current theory is coming in

What's your current theory?


you just quoted on it...

That was Talismania's. Mind putting it in your own words? I disagree with Talismania (and deconduo). I think it *might* be something similar, but the devil is in the details.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#683
On June 19 2012 06:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:18 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:17 Acrofales wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:01 talismania wrote:
So... does anyone else think deconduo was scarily accurate when he described this as an assassins + kingmaker setup?

Right now reading between the lines it sounds like there's a bunch of people who can win with town (or with scum?) but get an extra bonus if they're the one to night kill the MA or King or something like that. Maybe extra lose if they accidentally kill the other or some other role.


And this is where my current theory is coming in

What's your current theory?


you just quoted on it...

That was Talismania's. Mind putting it in your own words? I disagree with Talismania (and deconduo). I think it *might* be something similar, but the devil is in the details.


I think you confused me
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#684
On June 19 2012 06:16 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:13 FourFace wrote:
talismania do you still want to shoot me, if so why?


Kind of, kind of not. At the moment I'm leaning town on you. Do you have any extra win / extra lose wincons?


Why, are you probing for the MA?
I don't know, lynch me!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#685
You have to murder someone to not lose
201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win
S+B = 201
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#686
On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
S+B = 201


A new kind of math is being invented here
I don't know, lynch me!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18412 Posts
June 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#687
On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
You have to murder someone to not lose
201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win
S+B = 201

I don't have to murder anybody to not lose.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18412 Posts
June 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#688
I also don't have to keep someone alive to not lose. Now I am done saying anything about my role/wincon until I am ready to claim in full, or I die.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#689
On June 19 2012 06:29 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
You have to murder someone to not lose
201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win
S+B = 201

I don't have to murder anybody to not lose.


We shall see but I think S+B may be the perfect shot at the moment
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 21:33 GMT
#690
On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
You have to murder someone to not lose
201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win
S+B = 201

You're wrong. Also is the last line supposed to be some sort of WBG=George W Bush-type conspiracy?
Enjoy your day.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#691
On June 19 2012 06:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote:
You have to murder someone to not lose
201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win
S+B = 201

You're wrong. Also is the last line supposed to be some sort of WBG=George W Bush-type conspiracy?


its like year 1 maths...
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18412 Posts
June 18 2012 21:42 GMT
#692
Okay, gone over S&B's filter again and I don't see what people think is particularly scummy about him. He has a strong opinion on Drazerk, which I have to agree on (maybe because both of us were fooled by him in HR).

Other than that his filter is lacking scumhunting, but it makes a lot of sense. It is not at all like his filter in Spaceship, where he went into hardcore lurker mode at the start of D1 and never posted anything of use ever.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:49 GMT
#693
On June 19 2012 06:27 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:16 talismania wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:13 FourFace wrote:
talismania do you still want to shoot me, if so why?


Kind of, kind of not. At the moment I'm leaning town on you. Do you have any extra win / extra lose wincons?


Why, are you probing for the MA?


No I was just curious as to who has these extra win and extra lose stuff.

What are your impressions of Drazerk, strongandbig, and nisani201?
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
June 18 2012 21:51 GMT
#694
On June 19 2012 05:53 FourFace wrote:He's insulting me, insulting Hiro for giving his enforcing opinion on the case and now he's all over the thread and still hasn't made any noteworthy contribution; and again he is insulting which I, believe it or not, didn't intent to be when I said his moves were gay.. in the gamer sense of the word. I obviously wasn't saying anything about his or anyone else's orientation.
PS: marvellosity gtfo

You called me gay as an insult, and you have the nerve to say I am being insulting? "In the gamer sense of the word"? Disgusting.

"Hasn't made any noteworthy contribution"? Lying.

Tell me what you think of DB and Maju.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 21:52 GMT
#695
Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please?

I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
June 18 2012 21:53 GMT
#696
!! deconduo about to do something
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 21:59 GMT
#697
On June 19 2012 06:53 EchelonTee wrote:
!! deconduo about to do something


talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:59 GMT
#698
On June 19 2012 06:52 deconduo wrote:
Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please?

Show nested quote +
I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town



I'm nervous - is that going to do something?

I am a dayvig. I am going to shoot within the next five hours. If I don't, I will be lynched.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
June 18 2012 21:59 GMT
#699
Sorry for not posting for a while, I was rather busy. I probably won't be able to post at similar times tomorrow as well though the rest of the week should be fine.

FourFace

FourFace starts the game out with quite a number of posts that are quite useless. The only one that held any thoughts at all was
On June 17 2012 04:00 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 03:47 talismania wrote:
Sorry for trying to break the setup! PS I will continue making that exact same post in every game I play until TL outright bans it :-) (I held off in bangbang because I was scum there).

Now to play normally:

KharadBanar

On June 17 2012 03:08 KharadBanar wrote:
This whole House Chezinu thing sounds really fishy to me. It's advertised as "all upside, no downside" but we have to claim our role and abilities to get in there, and pledge loyalty to players we don't know the alignment of.

In addition, Hiro says nothing about the organisational structure of the House, or if we get any rights/influence if we join, which normally means we don't get jack.

I am not at all convinced.



On June 17 2012 03:34 KharadBanar wrote:
I don't fully trust House Chezinu's intentions yet, but I would like to claim that I am not one of its enemies, and would be interested in an alliance, similar to Nisani201.

If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future.



So basically what happened here was that you reacted to what HiroPro posted in the thread by yourself, then went to your QT and talked it over with someone else and came back with an alliance offer, no?


Nah, but what happened here with you was that you knew this encrypted shiznit was for the birds and even anticipated the hosts response and snuck in a "I was mafia in bang bang so that's why i didn't post this shiznit there .. I'm town now so I post it this time" trying to hammer our subconscious into believing you are town after which you make up a story about KharadBanar to create a false buffer of opposition .. in contrast to your "obvious townieness" we should believe he's obviously scummy. A bold and aggressive tactic .. I think you're all crazy.


He attack's Talismania's credibility on a post line that just mentions a sensible move on Talismania's part. He insinuates that Talismania is trying to subconsciously make people think he's town yet doesn't question people who have outright said that they are town or, except in what I think was a joke, people who said their win condition is to eliminate all anti town forces. He then proceeds never to broach the subject of Talismania's scumminess ever again.

His first post of any major significance is the case on ET. I agree with ET here though in that the case is ill thought out. The point about moral is irrelevant to anything I feel and accusations of focusing on house Chezinu are both bad, as that was the major topic of discussion at the start of the game, and hypocritical, as FourFace was the one concerned with how Hiro was going to extend the facade in a hypothetical situation.

Overall I see a lot of fluff in Four's filter and the posts of worth are illogical. Also, he ignores the post in which ET explains why his case is bad and says

On June 19 2012 05:53 FourFace wrote:
ETs defence was rather late wouldn't you guys agree? It's like he wanted to and new it would be wise to try to counter it right away but left it pending until there was a second opinion on it.

Look people, I know I come off as paranoid and trollish but that's because I'm fishing for an angle that nobody else would consider.. I'm just warming up and focusing attention on the game. Am I 100% sure ET is scum fuck no, but even his reaction to my case was obnoxiously scummy. I doubt he didn't understand what I said about the guaranteed to be clean mason circle once the application into House Chezinu is done by the hosts, how can you claim you're town when when the application gets verified by the hosts, cause that's what Hiro said wasn't it.

I for one would've loved to have something like it in this game where you make an early game choice to trust this questionable offer and are rewarded with a clean mason circle.

ET should explain to me again what's so illogical about what I've said or if he just fails to understand my assessment of the House Chezinu situation and its implications should it have been legit, because what he said I said .. I frankly didn't say. Read again.

It gives me the impression that he went berserk mode in his defense .. attacking Hiro for agreeing in some points to my case. What, should we lynch Hiro now because he thought my case was good and you the accused gave a negative evaluation (what a surprise)

He's insulting me, insulting Hiro for giving his enforcing opinion on the case and now he's all over the thread and still hasn't made any noteworthy contribution; and again he is insulting which I, believe it or not, didn't intent to be when I said his moves were gay.. in the gamer sense of the word. I obviously wasn't saying anything about his or anyone else's orientation.
PS: marvellosity gtfo

and fails to mention ET's response at all.

He even specifically states that he was looking to make a case on someone who no one would suspect it mafia. Why make a case on someone who isn't coming across as scum?

Fourface has been posting fluff and the accusations he does make seem forced.

##Vote: FourFace
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:00 GMT
#700
On June 19 2012 06:59 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:52 deconduo wrote:
Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please?

I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town



I'm nervous - is that going to do something?

I am a dayvig. I am going to shoot within the next five hours. If I don't, I will be lynched.


Include the bit about the alignments please, they are important. Unless of course you want to claim 3rd party or scum
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