Bastard Mafia 2 - Page 3

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 18:54 GMT

#536

he has maybe 2 good points; the best point against me is that i haven't written big ass flashy pbpa analysis cases that get you guys hot and bothered, but all he did was take my posts, pretend that there are 6 points are against me and vote me. like this is sooooo badddd it hurtsssssssssssssssssss

like this makes you look bad as hell hiropro; I don't mind you independently thinking im scummy, but seriously you think that caseis good?????

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 18:55 GMT

#537

On June 19 2012 03:53 Hyaach wrote:
Should have refreshed.

I played TL LV too.
If you read Maju's filter there, its almost the same as what he did here and he turned out scum in that game.

The downside I see to Maju's question this game is his lack of stance on House Chezinu. He asked some legitimate questions but lack on a firm stance.
That and he needs to get in and post soon or did he get pressured into lurking which ET could strongly claim fits Maju's scum meta in LV too.

But ET, meta could only get you so far, while i agree with you on Maju, I have no idea on the metas of the other players here and am lazy to read their previous game.

Bottomline, start finding solid case from post in here.

my solid case is here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=187599

lynch maju ffs

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 18:56 GMT

#540

On June 19 2012 03:47 Drazerk wrote:
Scum palmar gets lynched because he doesn't play as scum...

sandroba gets lynched because of meta. sandroba gets lynched because of meta stfu about meta being useless, you are just wrong and you hate meta for personal reasons or whatever

you don't meta players like toad or whatever the fuck, but come on; analyzing playstyles is wrong? lol man... i am so glad I /out'd of holy roman now

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 18:57 GMT

#542

......a list? tali? .........................................................................

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 18:58 GMT

#544

BioSC? Not now.

Lynch maju.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 18:58 GMT

#545

Nah draz, just saying that I would've gotten trolled so hard lol, like i'd be raging like a fcking lunatic

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:05 GMT

#547

yeah remember? I was a scummy lurker lol. I just hate lists, kind of like how u guys hate meta. Not like my case on maju is based in meta or anything; it's based on his complete and utter lack of scumhunting or interest in scum hunting. a 3rd party would definitely be more interested in scumhunting than a standard anti-town player; don't want to be lynched, and have no reason to defend scummy people.

you better not shoot someone uncontroversial like Nisani or whatever. You think someone like me or whatever is scum, shoot me and let the fireworks explode. uncontroversial deaths don't help anything early game.

citation - TL LV.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:06 GMT

#548

did anyone ever claim a shot? I don't see it

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:08 GMT

#551

On June 18 2012 05:59 MajuGarzett wrote:

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I wasn't just concerned with what I could gain from joining. I was concerned with what anyone could gain from joining. By knowing more about the house it allows for better reads on anyone who allied with or applied to the house.

On the second point by use of extrapolation, we can see that by saying "I can see why they did it" I also meant " I don't find them scummy for wanting an alliance" which is a response to xsksc's question. It wasn't just posting for the sake of posting.

You think this is an adequate response, HiroPro? He still hasn't 1. scumhunted. 2. posted stances on much of anything. How is this an adequate response? I think you're scum or 3rd party, HiroPro.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:09 GMT

#552

On June 19 2012 04:07 Drazerk wrote:

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No one claimed being hit so it would be weird to claim a shot

That's what I meant; I was asking if anyone had been claimed being hit.

That's strange. I highly doubt there is 0 night killing power; I'm thinking vets or townies didn't want to claim shots for whatever reason. Whatever.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:11 GMT

#557

This probably is a decision you should make on your own lol; this is a mafia game, there are scum who will try and manipulate you. You're pretty good at the game, make a judgement call -.-

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:13 GMT

#563

I might be getting clouded by OMGUS; read HiroPro's case on me, and his stance on Maju/FF's case, and tell me that that isn't an example of twisting logic to fit a goal of making someone look scummy.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:15 GMT

#565

On June 19 2012 04:10 HiroPro wrote:

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On June 18 2012 06:31 MajuGarzett wrote:

On June 18 2012 06:13 HiroPro wrote:

On June 18 2012 05:59 MajuGarzett wrote:

On June 18 2012 02:59 HiroPro wrote:

MajuGarzett:

If you look at MajuGarzett's filter, he's posted several times throughout the game. He's not actually concerned with finding scum, though. He spends almost all of his time asking about what abilities and information you can get from being a member. He doesn't try to determine my alignment; all he's concerned about is what he can gain from joining.

On June 17 2012 11:07 MajuGarzett wrote:

On June 17 2012 10:50 xsksc wrote:

On June 17 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote:
I should read the thread but that is too much effort

... I remember trying to lynch you in Steamship for this kind of posting. People just said, nah that's just how Drazerk plays. There's no need to be lazy though. -_-

Is anyone else around atm? The thread's gone pretty quiet, let's try and get some constructive discussion going. I would like to hear some more opinnions on Nisanis and Kharadbanars haste in allying with an unknown faction, especially this early in the game. Personally, I don't like their decision at all. We have very little information about the House, because honestly, most of HiroPro's posts about it have been flavour and nonsense. It may turn out that HiroPro and his House turn out to be a good resource for town. Until I know more about it, however, I'm staying well clear.

Well allying such a shady group is weird but there's no real downside to it as the alliance is so far just empty words. I can see why they did it. Honestly I think that the house won't really do anything to help Nisani and KB.

The most telling part of MajuGarzett's filter though is where he responds to xsksc. MajuGarzett doesn't try to analyze the behavior of Nisani or KB. All he does is say "Oh, I don't think the house will help them". He's not interested in making a clear statement on what he thinks about House Chezinu (beyond trying to quietly discredit it). He's posting for the sake of posting.

MajuGarzett isn't scumhunting; he's only concerned about himself. He's scum.

Explain this to me. You first say that by learning more about the house, you can make a better read on anyone. But I didn't give out anything really; so what specifically about their behavior makes you say you don't find them scummy? And those two statements are not the same thing: one is a fairly meaningless buddy-buddy statement, while the other is a clear opinion.

Well I wanted to get info to make reads but obviously that didn't work out. Being bereft of such detailed info, I felt that KB and 201 being curious about the house and wanting to be privy to any resources it had without being roped into anything that could be bad for town wasn't particularly scummy as I felt scum would probably distance themselves from such a shady organization.

No but this is.

Maju: there isn't enough information to make a scum read, I'll make a scum read later

-_________________________________________- really...............

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:17 GMT

#567

people on TL Mafia are too obsessed with pbpa analysis. I learned in my first game here that anyone with a high school education can fake pbpa analysis like hell. i think that's way worse than crutching on meta, lol.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:17 GMT

#568

On June 19 2012 04:16 HiroPro wrote:
Read the entire conversation - He said that he didn't find them scummy.

so who has he found scummy?

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:19 GMT

#572

On June 19 2012 04:17 HiroPro wrote:
No one. That's why he's a survivor, and not town.

How can you be so fraggen sure that he's survivor and not scum? It's not as though scum dislike making cases on people. It's not as though he acted exactly like this game in another game he was scum. It's not as though he looks like scum, and the only reason why the word "survivor" even comes up is that the last bastard game was chock full of them.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:24 GMT

#578

Tali can write his own posts; it might be prepared, he doesn't need it written for him.

I would shoot either KB or dropbear. Dropbear because I think he's scum and a few people have written opinons on him, KB also scummy and would tell a lot b/c tons of people put stances on him.

I don't really agree with any of your shots; I'm not quite sure if you're even trying to shoot at scum?

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:29 GMT

#581

On June 19 2012 04:23 HiroPro wrote:

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In Holy Roman, when he was accused, he called several other people scum and started voicing his opinion on lynches. He's so scared that he hasn't done anything this game; that suggests he's a survivor.

Oo meta? He acted exactly like that in TL LV

TL LV: looks scummy, posts like 1 accusation in a 5 full day cycles
HolyRo: looks scummy, calls people scum
Bastard2: looks scummy.......

Hmm, evidence suggests that when Maju is scummy.... he's scum! holy balls!

Btw, you still haven't unvoted me. You really think you're going to mislynch me today?

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:33 GMT

#582

It depends how you want to treat your vigshot really. If you're thinking of it like a standard nightvig shot, then you just want to him scum. Nisani wouldn't be a bad option then.

If you're thinking of it like a secondary lync though, you don't want it to be a safe throwaway or whatever.

don't shoot SnB or Draz as I feel like from your list they are least likely to be scum, otherwise make your judgement call.

EchelonTee

United States5245 Posts

June 18 2012 19:37 GMT

#585

On June 19 2012 04:35 HiroPro wrote:

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Are you scared of being lynched? Show me that you're town.

There were no survivors in either of those games; your argument is trash. Not to mention that he hasn't called anyone scum, when he does do that when under pressure as scum.

My arguement that when Maju is scummy he is likely to be scum is trash, right.

Scared of being lynched? Lmao, you couldn't lynch me even if you were trying.

It's funny how you try to sound confident and stuff, it's really cute.

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