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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 19 2012 16:31 GMT
#970
Ok sorry that was over the top. Permission to edit plz mods.

Yes KB is suspicious. He is less suspicious than Nisani and less suspicious than strongandbig who has lurked hardcore and suddenly jumped on the bandwagon to tie the vote.

KB also gets townie points for volunteering the be the last vote on me
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 05:17 GMT
#1154
On June 20 2012 03:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:06 talismania wrote:
Uh.

How does vengeful townie work again? I was under the impression that dropbear was supposed to die.

Or else a vote manipulation power was employed.

Fairly certain that what happened is the vote was a completely bogus mechanic that had us running around in circles.

It also makes it DOUBLE CONFIRMED that DropBear's roleclaim was completely bogus: if there's no lynch, then there's also no vengeful townie mechanic.


When I flip I am going to point and laugh at you so hard.

There is a lynch. We just had a lynch. It's just that the King chooses who it is.

I think :/
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 05:18 GMT
#1155
On June 20 2012 13:10 xsksc wrote:
Finished re-reading. I see what you mean about Nisani's claims now Talis, you were right, my bad. I still think he's 3rd party though.
I'm convinced HiroPro is not anti-town - I like his posts, they're constructive and pro-town. He also started the case on Maju, and I don't see why he would bus that early.

I don't believe FourFace/DropBear's claim's. It looks to me that if we have a role, we have a name.
Decon claimed "I am Phoenix Wright, the Objectivist"
This fits in with my own role, and I believe someone (acro?) also said they have a name.
DropBear and FourFace provide us with no names, DB even claims he is called vengeful townie. Given that we can't even lynch, (which he didn't know at the time) I really doubt DB's claim.

FourFace's bulletproof DT looks really overpowered. He also tells us who he plans to investigate, which is insanely careless and gives off the impression that he doesn't give a fuck. I don't believe him.
I still think Acrofales looks good. EchelonTree doesn't look as bad after a re-read/look through his filter.
Am I reading too much into the no name thing? Do you guys also have names?

I don't have a name. Yes you are reading too much into it.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 05:18 GMT
#1156
Everyone who was calling for my head for the case on KharadBanar, he flips as anti-town third party.

Can you all kindly eat humble pie now? KThx
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#1159
On June 20 2012 14:27 talismania wrote:
DropBear, who is Maju's partner? Why? Other reads?

_____________

Same questions at hyaach, BioSC, and Drazerk.

Lets wait until morning. Yes, I will probably survive til then. I would have won the lynch under normal rules today so I highly doubt scum will shoot me.

If you have to try and work out what my reads are at this point you clearly are not reading my filter. Go read my last few posts. Then read them again.

On June 20 2012 14:40 HiroPro wrote:
Thinking about the blue role-has name thing a little more, I don't think we can say that DropBear's claim is fake just based on him not having a name. For two reasons: 1. It's entirely possible that some blue roles have names and certain other roles don't., 2. Scum are almost given fakeclaims, especially in setups like this. If every blue role has a name, the scum fakeclaim would probably also have a name.

I'm not a blue i'm a green. I don't think I'm cool enough to have a name.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 19:04 GMT
#1231
On June 21 2012 01:33 talismania wrote:
Acrofales - you said you were going to be ready to claim in full D2. Is that still in the cards? Do it on the deadline I'm worried you're going to have a hit put on you.

Why would mafia shoot Acrofales? He's been blindly tunnelling a townie all game and he just shot a detective. Sounds like the perfect person to keep alive.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 19:17 GMT
#1234
This is post from strongandbig is a huge bandwagon. No reason, just that oh hey that guy seems to be getting votes I'll jump on him. He was talking up Drazerk as his big target then all of a sudden switches to me.
Look
how much
he talks about
how he doesn't
trust Drazerk.

Now all of a sudden he votes for me? No reasoning given whatsoever.

On June 19 2012 21:35 strongandbig wrote:
Good morning my Euro amigos!

The extra win loss thing seems pretty persuasive that nisani isn't maju's partner.

It seems like we have a decent chance to take out an entire scum team day 1 so I'm gonna be voting based on who might be maju's partner. Right now that looks to be most likely xk or dropbear. Between the two of them I'm voting for dropbear, both look scummy but I don't think scum would be openly defending each other yet.
##vote: dropbear


This is dodgy as all hell and I have a huge FoS on him right now. Other than his short case on Drazerk he hasn't really said much at all and bandwagoned very blatantly.

I still think Nisani should die as well. I've been over this. Voting Nisani. I would also get behind a strongandbig lynch if it came to it.



I also propose that we completely ignore Acrofales from now on. He has been blindly tunnelling me, a townie, plus he just shot a detective. Well played sir.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 19:21 GMT
#1235
I'm also trying to work out why EcholonTee was shot. I'm assuming it was because of this which is a pretty big blueslip:

On June 20 2012 13:43 EchelonTee wrote:
I have a name, but revealing it would reveal my role pretty obviously. Sort of how saying "I'm Phoenix Wright" should point to Deconduo's role for whoever followed Aperture.


ET voted for xsksc but also was on Nisani's case too, including voting for him at one point.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 19:32 GMT
#1240
On June 21 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 04:17 DropBear wrote:
This is post from strongandbig is a huge bandwagon. No reason, just that oh hey that guy seems to be getting votes I'll jump on him. He was talking up Drazerk as his big target then all of a sudden switches to me.
Look
how much
he talks about
how he doesn't
trust Drazerk.

Now all of a sudden he votes for me? No reasoning given whatsoever.

On June 19 2012 21:35 strongandbig wrote:
Good morning my Euro amigos!

The extra win loss thing seems pretty persuasive that nisani isn't maju's partner.

It seems like we have a decent chance to take out an entire scum team day 1 so I'm gonna be voting based on who might be maju's partner. Right now that looks to be most likely xk or dropbear. Between the two of them I'm voting for dropbear, both look scummy but I don't think scum would be openly defending each other yet.
##vote: dropbear


This is dodgy as all hell and I have a huge FoS on him right now. Other than his short case on Drazerk he hasn't really said much at all and bandwagoned very blatantly.

I still think Nisani should die as well. I've been over this. Voting Nisani. I would also get behind a strongandbig lynch if it came to it.



I also propose that we completely ignore Acrofales from now on. He has been blindly tunnelling me, a townie, plus he just shot a detective. Well played sir.


Lol bro. Omgus much?

At that time, I was looking to vote for maju's partner and I didn't think it was nisani. Nisani had the most votes so I had to vote for someone else with votes - either you or xkscxc. As I explained in the post I quoted, I think it's more likely to be you than xk. You shouldn't just always vote for your number one scum read if it's not a realistic lynch possibility. That just lets scum more easily coordinate the vote.

Plus you're conveniently ignoring the fact that Drazerk got magic mod-ghost town cred between my case on him and the time I voted. No, I don't think he is confirmed, but it makes me at least uncertain about him.

Oh yeah also I still don't believe your roleclaim. Care to reconsider?


Please link me to where you explain why you thought it was more likely to be me. Oh wait, you didn't. You just voted where the wind was blowing. You said it was more likely to be me with no explanation as to why. That is bandwagoning.

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 20:43 GMT
#1264
Acro why did you shoot BioSC when you were on my case the entire day?
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 21:10 GMT
#1271
On June 21 2012 05:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 05:43 DropBear wrote:
Acro why did you shoot BioSC when you were on my case the entire day?

I've explained that twice already.

This is true, you did.

On June 21 2012 03:26 Acrofales wrote:
However, you came back during the night and I actually liked your posts, so I relented and looked for a different target. I figured DropBear and Nisani are major lynch candidates today, so figured I'd look into the people I hadn't looked closely yet. I almost changed my target to Nisani when BioSC started posting, but his posting style and the case were just so weird (and cute), that they confused me more than convinced me he was town. I couldn't find a scum motive for posting so weird, but it isn't exactly townie either. I then thought of you and remembered that strange posting styles can be employed by scum to seem inoccuous So I went through with the shot. Wrongly.


I have never before seen a vigilante who didn't shoot the person they thought most likely to be mafia. You say yourself you couldn't find a scum motive for what he was saying.

I actually don't understand how anyone who was town aligned could be this colossally illogical.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 21:20 GMT
#1274
On June 21 2012 06:11 talismania wrote:
DropBear, why so angry today?

I'm sick of making perfect sense and being told it makes me mafia. I spent all of yesterday defending myself against the most retarded case I have ever seen yet somehow getting the most votes.

The person who pushed it the hardest just shot a detective and it's being shrugged off. Incidentally, you spelt Auditore incorrectly in your claim Acrofales.

On June 21 2012 03:17 Acrofales wrote:
Damn it. I completely totally missed that shot

I am a vigi. To be precise, I am Ezio Auditorie de Firenze and I shot BioSC.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 21:22 GMT
#1275
Plus its 5am
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 21:43 GMT
#1282
Remaining third parties and mafia:

Nisani201
strongandbig
Acrofales

ggnore
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 20 2012 21:59 GMT
#1286
Because you don't give your town reads at night. It makes people get shot.

Could you explain the part in bold please Acrofales.

On June 21 2012 03:26 Acrofales wrote:
However, you came back during the night and I actually liked your posts, so I relented and looked for a different target. I figured DropBear and Nisani are major lynch candidates today, so figured I'd look into the people I hadn't looked closely yet. I almost changed my target to Nisani when BioSC started posting, but his posting style and the case were just so weird (and cute), that they confused me more than convinced me he was town. I couldn't find a scum motive for posting so weird, but it isn't exactly townie either. I then thought of you and remembered that strange posting styles can be employed by scum to seem inoccuous So I went through with the shot. Wrongly.


And Drazerk when I was still playing regularly Kenpachi had a 100% strike rate on hitting mafiosos as a vigilante.

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 21 2012 06:08 GMT
#1361
On June 21 2012 07:42 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 07:39 Acrofales wrote:
On June 21 2012 05:15 Nisani201 wrote:
On June 21 2012 05:10 Acrofales wrote:
A town Nisani should be trying to prevent a mislynch. He clearly has no interest in preventing a mislynch. Maybe his extra wincon was to outlive the AMA, so he doesn't give a fuck, or maybe he's scum.

Your post has inspired me to say something. I have decided I will help you guys scumhunt.

Everyone who thinks I am the MA should say so now. This is important.

Yo Nisani, I think you're MA!

ugh you don't count

These people need to tell me if they think I am the MA:

DropBear
xsksc
Drazerk
Hyaach

I think you are Mafia, capiche?

But the MA? The MA hasn't crossed my mind with you at all.

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 21 2012 06:16 GMT
#1364
On June 21 2012 15:12 xsksc wrote:
DB, thoughts on me/Hiro's case?
Am I the only one that sees my claim as retarded as hell for scum?o.o

I have said repeatedly that you are making more sense to me than anyone and you are the last person I would have lynched, even before your claim.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 22 2012 02:43 GMT
#1497
Well well, Nisani is third party. So of my two major cases both ended up being third party, I'll take that.

Why is the claim of everyone being taken for gospel except for mine?

I have a suggestion.

Let's take the king out of the equation entirely. Everyone vote for me and have Nisani be the last one to vote. EVERYONE. That way both of us die, a lot of the confusion is gone and we don't end up giving the sole lynch capacity to the Mafia.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 22 2012 02:51 GMT
#1499
On June 22 2012 11:49 HiroPro wrote:
DropBear meet talismania, talismania DropBear.

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:32 talismania wrote:
Proposal:

Nisani wants to be lynched, we want to lynch scum.

We all vote dropbear, and nisani does what KB did and unvote votes to make sure he's the last one voting.

If the game ends because dropbear is the last scum, great.
If the game doesn't end, but dropbear is still scum, then we lynch nisani for possibly having an anti-town wincon (or one of the other 3p players).
If the game doesn't end because dropbear is town and telling the truth, then we've still gotten rid of nisani (and nisani has gotten rid of himself).

Lets just get it done. I still don't understand the case against me at any level and I'm sick of defending myself. If my death brings about something good then so be it.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
June 22 2012 07:04 GMT
#1502
On June 22 2012 06:57 ghost_403 wrote:
I'm not a big fan of DropBear. He opens the game by pushing KB, then drops it after Maju flips because his single vote somehow exonerates him of all scumminess. It's a bad move on his part, but he was rather townish in how he stuck to his guns on that issue. Past that, the only thing he's really contributed is his case on Nisani. Take a look at his filter, he's not bringing anything to the town at all. Also, I don't like how he refuses to claim his role's name. Everyone else has, why not him? Very strange. He's either scum or very bad townie.

Now to look at xkcd. My ride home is almost here, so that might not get put up for a bit.

UGH I DON'T HAVE A NAME. Read...... my...... filter......

And it didn't exonerate all scumminess I said that.
On June 19 2012 13:31 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote:
DropBear

His first post is fairly fluffy regarding the house, talking about "I don't not trust you, but I don't trust you", and "VE lolol", which isn't ordinarily a big concern for the early game, but considering that his suspicion on KB is for talking about "filler", it's hypocritical. Esp. since KB's speculation is more relevant than DB's (KB specifically says be careful with your alignment.

Same point, DB is implying that KB being diplomatic towards the House is scummy, even though DB's first post was diplomatic as fck.

He warps some logic when trying to tunnel KB more. He uses the fact that Nisani is defending him as a reason to call KB scummy; there is no associative tell to make, you don't know Nisani's alignment. I already adressed the House comments. The "scumslip" he mentions isn't much. The biggest reason why he calls KB is scum is because "has big fluffy posts where he doesn't say much", but KB has been doing a lot more since then, which DB ignores.

He's been playing a very tight game where his only accusation is on KB, considered to be an "easy accusation". This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. Make an accusation that is easy, don't post much else on other topics.

My first post in this game was made drunk as hell at 3am on a Saturday night.

Read it again. What it says is I AM NOT JOINING HOUSE CHEZINU.

What warped logic? I greatly suspect Nisani's alignment, even more now after his defence of Maju that I linked in the post prior to this. And scumbuddies defend each other, no?

KB's posting continued to be overly verbose and not actually saying all that much of substance. I still am suspicious of his alignment.

As for the last bit, I'm going to requote you.

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote:
This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably.

I'm sorry, what?


Do any of you actually read? Like seriously, do you read?

Plus for everyone who has said I haven't brought anything, I have made 3 cases. One of them was an anti-town third party, the other two have since claimed third party. That's not a bad strike rate.
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