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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 17 2012 22:19 GMT
#432
I think the source of a lot of confusion surrounding the monarch stuff is because talis/acro aren't making good distinctions between what is fact (established in the role pm) and what is speculation. Could you two be more specific?
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 00:20 GMT
#440
First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.


xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make.

His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread.

Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 01:14 GMT
#453
On June 18 2012 09:49 xsksc wrote:
Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol.
In response to Nisanis vote -
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On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.


xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make.

His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread.

Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc

Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town?
As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead.

I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution.
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On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.

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On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him.

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On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.

Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical.

Yes indeed, contributing without contributing seems to be a common theme this game. Not my fault.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 01:19 GMT
#456
I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment.

He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 01:26 GMT
#459
The third point is lacking "context." He accuses KB of being diplomatic with the horse chezinu but in reality that is not true.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:10 GMT
#604
Alright so I've just read through the thread and I have no idea why people are saying that my play is strange or weird or whatever. I don't know why people are getting away with soft-calling me scum (I'm looking at you, talis) and no one is really posting reasoning

There is Hyaach's analysis on me, which is pretty bad.

On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
Nisani201.

People find it wierd to ally so fast with a house without any information from it?

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On June 17 2012 05:00 Nisani201 wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:47 talismania wrote:
KharadBanar and Nisani206

Why did you ally with HiroPro?

Because I prefer to make friends, not enemies.


Only people that wants friends are scum/third parties. Towns can credit themselves cred by scum hunting. Scum/third parties are lazy and lack this advantage.

Alright, I agree that I didn't explain myself very well in that post and it looks pretty bad, but I'll try to explain it now.

My main understanding of the "house chezinu" mainly came from Merc Mini 2 where I played with Chezinu, and he was acting very similar to Hiro's play in this game. In that game Chezinu was a bulletproof SK and I figured that it was very likely Hiro had a lot of power. I didn't want to get stuck in some stupid feud with a third party when I could have been scumhunting. Furthermore, I didn't really see any downside to allying with the House... and no one has pointed one out; people have been saying that this kind of affiliation with it is scummy but I don't really see why that is.
On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
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On June 17 2012 07:22 Nisani201 wrote:
I highly doubt that there are any vanilla roles such as "serial killer" in this game.


Why discredit the existence of a 3rd party be it a group or 1 single individual?

This is a crazy game and it has crazy roles... I know that I have a crazy role, not sure about others but my experience with crazy games suggests that most people are going to have crazy roles as well.

Why the hell did you include this in your analysis? Did you run out of posts that you thought were actually scummy? This entire case is forced, and this part of it proves it to me.

On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
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On June 18 2012 06:43 Nisani201 wrote:
Some other points to make:

If you are the "king" then you should claim that you are, as well as the powers you have.

I also don't like the case on Maju



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On June 18 2012 07:19 Nisani201 wrote:
I think the source of a lot of confusion surrounding the monarch stuff is because talis/acro aren't making good distinctions between what is fact (established in the role pm) and what is speculation. Could you two be more specific?



Why are you so interested in the King and the specific set up?
Do they have anything to do with your win-con?

Once again more blatant and pointless speculation.

A lot of people are talking about the king. Because 2 people (and probably more) already have information on it it seems like it's a very important mechanic in this game. Information is especially important in a game like this where we have so little information about the setup and anything can happen.

On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
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On June 17 2012 10:09 Nisani201 wrote:
What information is revealed upon death?


With 0 KP last night and KB who is buddy-buddying you is in the spotlight.
Are you afraid his death will reveal existence of your 3rd party set up?

What the hell is this? I ask a question to the host and now you're spinning it and making up bullshit. There are a million reasons why I could have asked this question, and you pull one out of the hat to match the opinion of Hiro and a few others that I am 3P.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#609
Also: I like Acrofales' case on DropBear. I think that the case on Echelon is forced but I am null on him right now.

I still think that xsksc should be lynched. Can people please post their thoughts on him? For reference, here is my case on him.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:18 GMT
#612
Why do you want me to claim?

I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:20 GMT
#615
On June 19 2012 05:20 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 19 2012 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you want me to claim?

I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives.


You tell us now because I don't believe you for a second

How about you shut up because you haven't done anything productive all day.

I have no idea why talis hasn't shot you already.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:21 GMT
#617
On June 19 2012 05:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:20 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you want me to claim?

I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives.


You tell us now because I don't believe you for a second

How about you shut up because you haven't done anything productive all game.

I have no idea why talis hasn't shot you already.

EBWOP
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:24 GMT
#620
On June 19 2012 05:21 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you want me to claim?

I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives.


It's ok I guess I don't expect you to claim. But what's this extra win extra loss stuff? I don't see how you can extra lose. Can you give us a hint as to your various wincons?

I can't say much without revealing my role. All you need to know is that it 100% aligns with town objectives.

I'm not really sure how the "extra win" and "extra loss" works either, but I'm guessing that I can sort of get a double-win, or not lose nor win in the same game depending on the combination.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:28 GMT
#626
So no one wants to share their opinion on xsksc?
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:29 GMT
#629
On June 19 2012 05:28 HiroPro wrote:
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On June 19 2012 05:28 Nisani201 wrote:
So no one wants to share their opinion on xsksc?


No. Your case is bad.

So is yours.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:30 GMT
#632
On June 19 2012 05:30 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 19 2012 05:28 P-body wrote:
446f206e6f742074727920746f2062656e64207468652073706f6f6e20972074686174277320696d706f737369626c652e20496e73746561642c206f6e6c792074727920746f207265616c697a6520746865207472757468


Hi everyone I contain the secret to everyone's win condition. To obtain every player must type in #Fistbump in the thread

oh god not this again
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:33 GMT
#637
On June 19 2012 05:32 talismania wrote:
Nisani, what do you know about the king and monarchist activist?

I don't know anything more than what was posted my you and Acrofales.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:39 GMT
#640
Why do you keep asking me these questions?
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:39 GMT
#642
On June 19 2012 05:39 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:38 talismania wrote:
What other factions do you know about?


You know I can think of a better way to find this information out...

shut up
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:46 GMT
#652
On June 19 2012 05:44 talismania wrote:
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On June 19 2012 05:39 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you keep asking me these questions?


Because I want to know? And I have a gun?

Do you know of any other factions? If your wincon is town-aligned, then maybe us in town can help you out.

Did your pm contain any info on the king and MA at all?

No I don't know about any other factions, and my role PM didn't have any information about monarchs or monarchist activist.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 20:49 GMT
#655
On June 19 2012 05:48 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:46 Nisani201 wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:44 talismania wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:39 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you keep asking me these questions?


Because I want to know? And I have a gun?

Do you know of any other factions? If your wincon is town-aligned, then maybe us in town can help you out.

Did your pm contain any info on the king and MA at all?

No I don't know about any other factions, and my role PM didn't have any information about monarchs or monarchist activist.


Which makes you wonder... what is this mystical role?

I am actually wondering the same about you. Could you really be this bad? Or are you a jester?
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 18 2012 21:10 GMT
#670
On June 19 2012 05:53 KharadBanar wrote:
EBWOP:
Let's make it a bit more clear.
##Dayvig-vote: DropBear

can you elaborate on this? Is Dropbear dying?
Enjoy your day.
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