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On June 26 2012 01:08 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 01:03 HiroPro wrote:On June 25 2012 23:27 xsksc wrote:
It's a bastard game with 2 DTs lol, why couldn't there be 1 permanent and 1 temporary framing ability?
"Some player may check out wrong on alignment checks, but if so, they will be read the same during the whole game." Hmmmmmm Read what else I wrote, I've already said I believe this is talking about either a miller or the permanent ability.
If that's what you believe/want to believe, ok.
On June 26 2012 01:09 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 01:03 HiroPro wrote:On June 25 2012 23:13 ghost_403 wrote:
Also, Hiro protown? He's afk'd himself since he claimed neutral survivor linked whatever he is. Do you just pretend to not read anything or is this how you actually play the game? Did you read anything that happened before you replaced in? On June 25 2012 23:27 xsksc wrote:
It's a bastard game with 2 DTs lol, why couldn't there be 1 permanent and 1 temporary framing ability?
"Some player may check out wrong on alignment checks, but if so, they will be read the same during the whole game." Hmmmmmmmm On June 26 2012 00:32 Drazerk wrote:
Strong stop thinking of yourself as a survivor but more as a second town team.
Sometimes its better to die for the good of the town. This is what you would be doing.
Being alive is sadly not part of your win condition nor is it optimal play. Lol, we're not a second town team. If town loses, w/e, it's their own fault for not playing well. The analogy still holds
Major Difference: Doesn't matter if scum dies or not, as long as the game ends.
On June 26 2012 01:09 ghost_403 wrote:@hiro: A) Why would bother reading the thread? B) Choice excerpts from the 10th page of your filter: Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 02:50 HiroPro wrote:
Damn it s&b, now I need to start thinking again. Fuck I shouldn't have stopped updating my spreadsheet. Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:13 HiroPro wrote:
IMaLive
Mister mister role role roleblocker dun a good job. Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote:On June 24 2012 07:21 ghost_403 wrote:On June 24 2012 03:13 HiroPro wrote:Back to being useless then for me  Why? You spent a huge part of the beginning of the game actively hunting scum. House Chezinu took up, what, two or three pages of your filter, and began your case on xcrzd. Now, after you claim Neutral Linked Survivor, you're all like On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:
Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me. You weren't afraid to play protown then, so why the change of heart? To stay alive, I needed to show that I wasn't anti-town. Now that I've established that, there's no reason for me to help town. Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 08:06 HiroPro wrote:On June 24 2012 08:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 24 2012 07:57 HiroPro wrote:On June 24 2012 07:21 ghost_403 wrote:On June 24 2012 03:13 HiroPro wrote:Back to being useless then for me Why? You spent a huge part of the beginning of the game actively hunting scum. House Chezinu took up, what, two or three pages of your filter, and began your case on xcrzd. Now, after you claim Neutral Linked Survivor, you're all like On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:
Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me. You weren't afraid to play protown then, so why the change of heart? To stay alive, I needed to show that I wasn't anti-town. Now that I've established that, there's no reason for me to help town. We all ok policy lynching Hiro and S+B even if it loses us the game? Town wouldn't even be in this good a situation if I hadn't helped lol. And if you had actually listened to me about DropBear, you'd be doing even better. And by choice, I mean the first five. The rest of the posts on that page are similarly useless. You've been riding the town goodwill since you debunked House Chezinu and 'caught' xiron.
Don't insult me by saying that I haven't helped town, ok. Who do you think made the plan that exposed the Serial Killer? Hm, it was me. Who do you think made the case against MajuGarzett? Hm, I think that might have been me. Who killed the Serial Killer when everyone in town decided it would be a good idea to lynch one of their own? Huh, funny thing, I think that might have been me too. #of anti-town killed by town=1....#of anti-town killed by me=1......hmmmm
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True, but I still pushed for lynching him instead of DropBear.
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On June 26 2012 01:15 talismania wrote:
Drazerk has had it out for the third parties since the beginning. Ghost is acting weird too.
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In what way? The awful case that Acro came up with? I broke that thing down so many times, lol. But no one actually bothered thinking about it for themselves.
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On June 26 2012 02:01 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 01:48 talismania wrote:
actually fuck it.
if we're going to lynch third party, why not ghost? fourface claimed insane dt - why? probably because his ass wanted to mislead town. He's a survivor alright, but wins with scum. Just a thought. Also ghost has been acting weird since he's arrived. Lynching ghost actually has a good chance of catching scum imho. As today has developed, he has been acting weirder and weirder. 4F never really convinced me he was town in any way. Ghost has played more coherently. It was actually you who convinced me 4F/ghost was improbable scum. Also, if we lynch ghost and he flips scum then we've proven Hyaach as a pretty townie roleblocker, leaving the road even clearer for an xsksc lynch tomorrow. I am not opposed to killing ghost. My main reason for picking Hiro/SnB is because there is something fishy about their role and until we lynch one of them or the game ends we won't know what it is. I am inquisitive and not above lynching for information  Let me go reread ghost's filter, but a switch to ghost does not seem like a bad plan. At worst it'll prove that roleblocking ghost was NOT what stopped the mafia kill from happening.
Cool, I guess you guys can have this.
ghost_403 has claimed BP survivor and said that since he's BP, it's in his best interest to play pro-town. Thing is, ghost hasn't actually done anything like that this game. He makes a call for Nisani to be shot without ever talking about why he thinks Nisani is scum. He makes "reads" on DropBear and xsksc that just rephrase what other people have already said about them. Additionally, look at how uncomfortable ghost was with providing a concrete opinion on DropBear's alignment. ghost refers multiple times to DropBear as "bad townie or scum", but never actually decides which one it is.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 21 2012 01:11 ghost_403 wrote:
Nisani
StrongAndBig
MajuGazett
KharadBanar
EschelonTee
Two of my best scum reads are already dead, GJ town.
I really don't like having to put ET on this list, given how much him and my predecessor fought it out, but I really don't like how he jumped around on his voting. Later, I'll look through some of his previous games to see how he votes as town. Also, never trust the guy who reports the votecounts.
Given a bullet, I would shoot Nisani in a heartbeat. On June 21 2012 01:25 ghost_403 wrote:
BioSC looked townish to me, but that came mostly from the reading of the House Chezinu situation early on in the game. Past that, I didn't really notice anything significant about him.
DropBear didn't make it on my spreadsheet until I looked at the players list. Points to terrible townie or lurking scum. On June 22 2012 06:57 ghost_403 wrote:
I'm not a big fan of DropBear. He opens the game by pushing KB, then drops it after Maju flips because his single vote somehow exonerates him of all scumminess. It's a bad move on his part, but he was rather townish in how he stuck to his guns on that issue. Past that, the only thing he's really contributed is his case on Nisani. Take a look at his filter, he's not bringing anything to the town at all. Also, I don't like how he refuses to claim his role's name. Everyone else has, why not him? Very strange. He's either scum or very bad townie.
Now to look at xkcd. My ride home is almost here, so that might not get put up for a bit.
On June 23 2012 03:41 ghost_403 wrote:
Scum wouldn't shoot me tonight. Killing me doesn't get them any closer to winning the game. I don't count as town for their wincon, as detailed previously. I'm fine with being roleblocked, my problem is that I don't think it will help us find
scum. Your plan needs a town DT to actually work, and I haven't seen anything that shows you've thought that out. It's very strange considering the fact that you thought he was lying about his roleclaim to begin with.
ghost has claimed that he is bulletproof. So why is it that he's speculating about why scum wouldn't kill him? That scenario should never even cross his mind; it's not just that he's talking about being shot (that would be understable), but he specifically refers to himself dying from a scum shot (something which should not be possible if his claim is true).
The differences between what ghost has claimed to be and his actual words and actions in the thread are stark. ghost claimed that he is bulletproof, yet the way he talks suggests exactly the opposite. ghost says that he's a survivor who's interested in helping town as it helps him out too; yet he's done absolutely no scumhunting.
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On June 26 2012 02:10 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, quick wrapup of ghost's play. He is clearly completely unconcerned about who is getting lynched (while he is out-of-shot). Which makes him not-town. But we knew that already. Complete toss-up between scum and 3rd party as far as I can read him, though.
Think about what ghost has claimed. He says that he's a BP survivor who's going to help town because he's at no risk of dying; has he actually done that? No.
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Eh, I don't think roleblockers can typically remove BP. But w/e, as long as it's not s&b or me, you can do whatever you want.
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On June 26 2012 02:16 talismania wrote:
roleblock does remove bulletproof, at least it did in pick your power.
That's not bulletproof, that was just a veteran right?
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And if you look at WBG's minis, the SK's extra night life can't be roleblocked.
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ok, voting for ghost then, if that's what you guys want.
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Then make up your minds -_- It doesn't really matter to me.
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lol, I'm not town. I don't care who gets lynched as long as s&b and I are safe.
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Why are all of your times wrong...
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On June 26 2012 02:51 ghost_403 wrote:
@acro: I'm trying to point out that he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. You can't claim "I don't care" then push lynch candidates. Last I checked, xkhla wasn't on his scum team. So why does he care that it's me and not him? That's not neutral.
In case you haven't realized yet, s&b was at risk of being lynched. That's bad for me; I'll make a case and push the lynch onto whatever scum I see if it'll save him. If town wants to lynch xsksc instead of you, ok I'll vote for him then.
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oh lol, my bad, I didn't realize it was a countdown. I thought it was the actual time you were saying.
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lol, I remember that. I got so paranoid when I came back and saw the connection case you made on me.
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lol, planar dragon. You weren't no madeline vampire.
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Looks like you were right s&b. Everyone has names from previous mafia games.
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You realize that s&b is neutral surviving balrog, right.....
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