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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 13:14 GMT
#1393
Ghost: you said that 4F's claim was fake. What is your real role?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 13:59 GMT
#1395
According to the OP, only town and anti-town are available as alignments. Which are you?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 14:00 GMT
#1396
EBWOP: never mind. Remembered that wrong.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#1400
Okay, it was upon rereading the OP that I found that the OP actually explicitly states the presence of VTs in the game, so I wasn't sure you were claiming to be one.

Okay, that leaves SnB, who appears to have gone awol again and then the troublesome pair of Hiro and Nisani.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 16:39 GMT
#1415
I agree with killing one of the neutral mason team. However, it's low priority. xxkskiezkla, Nisani and DropBear need to be cleared up first.

So, if I get this right, we have:

Totally confirmed town:
Acro - vig

Virtually confirmed town:
Tali - day vig
Deconduo - lie detector

Claimed town:
xskckskskwi - cop
DropBear - vengeful?
Hyaach - roleblock
Drazerk - vt

Claimed survivor:
ghost_90210
HiroPro
S&B

Claimed TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL:
Nisani

If there is really only 1 KP flying around, as it is starting to look like, I vote we lynch Nisani, the MA and win the 3rd parties who are lying about their wincon the game. Then one of the townies gets shot. Then we lynch xksksllsewissls because his roleclaim is bogus. Then either we win the game, or another townie gets shot.

If at this point town has not yet lost the game, then it's almost certainly lylo and we can figure out what to do from there onwards. Anyway, lynching Nisani and roleblocking xksksks seems to be the way to go for now.

Hypothetical situation: if there is a roleblocker, can scum KP be roleblocked?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 16:45 GMT
#1420
On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 01:38 ghost_403 wrote:
Well, now, there's an interesting response.

Because I'm a neutral survivor, I don't really care about which side wins. But, as a survivor, what I do want is a short game, which means that it's in my best interest to be gunning for one side or the other. Being bulletproof, scum can't kill me, so that means I should be playing as pro-town as possible in this game.

You don't care. Why's that?


Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me.

To be fair, if your roleclaim is in any way true, time is running out for scum. There's probably 1 scum, and possibly 1 3rd party hiding in the dodgy roleclaims. They can't afford to shoot 3rd party.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 19:35 GMT
#1438
On June 22 2012 03:00 Drazerk wrote:
If you could win alone as town I'd probably just murder everyone Hiro

Drazerk and I are alike in many aspects.

We both post proliferously
We are both Europeans
And given the choice we would both murder everybody.

This time I'm hoping Drazerk is town, instead of a backstabbing scum bastard.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 19:35 GMT
#1439
On June 22 2012 04:29 Nisani201 wrote:
If everyone has claimed already then I will claim. Is there anyone who hasn't claimed yet?

No.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 19:57 GMT
#1448
On June 22 2012 04:54 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 04:48 talismania wrote:
well he's third party which is good to know.

can we please lynch into xsksc/hyaach/dropbear?

who do people want out of these three?

No.

I am getting lynched today.

I'm not giving you guys any information unless I can be sure that I am lynched.

You know that if you're getting lynched we're already GETTING your information, right?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 19:59 GMT
#1454
Interesting.

@Nisani: why did you make Hiro king? Were you that taken in by his chezinu deal?

@Hiro: that makes you look like the second scumteam. You claim you're helping town, but you could've helped us by saying this earlier. Instead you waited until Nisani figured it was time to tell us.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 20:00 GMT
#1456
On June 22 2012 04:57 Nisani201 wrote:
How does this sound...

Plurality lynch. Every day, with no King nonsense.

You can get that if you lynch me.

We can get that if we kill scum now too and win the game. Also, we could just roleblock you ad infinitum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 20:03 GMT
#1458
Nisani, lets put it this way: I am completely uninterested in helping you avoid your second loss condition: your extra win and your extra loss probably cancel eachother out. You've claimed you win with town, and I am inclined to believe the M.A. wins with town (no merit to you, just your role).

That means we should lynch xsksksks, DropBear, Drazerk, or Hyaach (in order of preference) today.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1462
On June 22 2012 05:00 HiroPro wrote:
lol, i didn't know. I didn't receive anything telling me I was king.

Nisani, is Hiro lying?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 20:25 GMT
#1468
So basically we're being trolled by the mods here.

There is a 3rd party (I can see no reason for town to use this role), who can completely annul the town KP and nobody knows who will decide the lynch except that 3rd party. Basically Nisani could give the KP to xksksksks tomorrow, then DropBear the day after and we'd be fucked.

I don't see much choice but to lynch him today, or roleblock him ad infinitum (which relies on Hyaach being town).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 20:53 GMT
#1473
So... while I'd rather lynch scum than 3rd party, I feel we can't bet a town victory on Hyaach roleblocking Nisani every night. We lynch Nisani.

Now. Lets start thinking about the future. Who is the final scum?

Options:

Currently not under suspicion:

Acro <--- town.

Tali <--- negligible chance. He claimed town vigi and shot his scumbuddy? Unlikely. There is also the deconduo lie detector and his overall townie play.

Deconduo <--- despite his horrible use of the lie detector and general disinterest in playing the game, it just seems improbable that he's scum.

Hiro/S&B <--- if they're anti-town, they're anti-town together and definitely not Maju's single scumbuddy.




Suspicions:

Drazerk <---- the reason he's not in the "above suspicion" list is because he didn't read his role PM before the lie detector. He looked townie through that, but it's easy to play townie if you don't have a clue what you are. The fact that he claimed VT and nobody else did makes him the least suspicious of everybody in here.

Hyaach <--- claimed roleblocker and has been confirmed as roleblocker. The question is whether he's TOWN roleblocker, though. His play was giving me a null read up until now, but the rolename is more scummy (in GoT mafia: Tyrion was scum) than townie. Additionally, roleblockers are more likely to be given to scum than to town. On the fence here.

Ghost <--- bulletproof survivor. His predecessor played like he didn't give a shit about the game. Spamming up the thread with well.. stuff. Ghost is better, but hasn't really done much either, except make this claim. It was the first roleclaim that I actually believed initially, though. On the fence here too.




Downright scummy:

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 21 2012 20:54 GMT
#1474
Damn. I didn't mean to hit post just yet... but anyway, the downright scummy players are DropBear and xksksks. I have not yet made up my mind between these two.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 22 2012 07:28 GMT
#1503
Okay, I think this is an excellent idea, but it's pretty risky. If we're doing this, lets establish a voting order:

Acro, Tali, deconduo, Drazerk, Hyaach, ghost and HiroPro are the first 7 votes on DropBear in any order.

8th is xksksksksc
9th is S&B
10th is Nisani

DropBear votes for Nisani (if there's secret king shenanigans and DropBear is king, then Nisani still dies).

What this accomplishes: if all goes to plan, DropBear is scum, dies and we win the game. Chance of DropBear being town and his roleclaim being true, Nisani and DropBear both die and we can decide which of Drazerk, Hyaach and xkskskskc are the final scum.

If Nisani does any shenanigans crap, we have a buffer: if DropBear is town, then a claimed 3rd party survivor dies and HiroPro is confirmed as a neutral 3rd party. We roleblock Nisani and lynch him tomorrow.

If both Nisani and S&B do shenanigans then our most scummy town-claimer dies.

Personally, I think everybody should go along with this plan. Oh, Hiro and S&B: if Hiro prefers to be the martyr, I'm okay with that deal too. I have just been liking his play more this game and would prefer him to stick around

The risks:

To town: we lynch a townie DropBear who lied about his roleclaim and are stuck with Nisani tomorrow as well... one day closer to lylo. Also can't try to roleblock the scum.

To Nisani: none as far as I can see. You want to die? We want you dead! Lets do this without wasting a day of lynching!

To Hiro/S&B: you're the ones I'm afraid won't go along with this, but I think you should. The risk to you is very small: the only situation one of you dies in, is if DB is town and his roleclaim is true (small chance) AND Nisani decides to screw you over (he has been claiming he wants to die all day now to avoid his second losscon). If you agree with me that the chance of these two events occurring together are very tiny, then you stand to gain: heaps of towncred! If you don't get lynched, you win and town likes you. If you do get lynched then your partner is confirmed and we're no longer worrying about you perhaps being a scum team.

To xksksks: if you're town you'll go along with the plan. If you're scum, you'll also go along with the plan, because the chance of being killed is virtually 0. You're just the final backup buffer.



Lets do this!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 22 2012 08:27 GMT
#1507
I've taken another look at Hyaach's filter. I am not sure I like what I see. If someone still reads null to me after this much of the game played, my rule of the thumb is that he's probably scum. However, that is not counting the scumminess of DB and xksksksc and the unusual setup of this game. What is everybody else's opinion on him?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 22 2012 08:45 GMT
#1508
On June 22 2012 16:55 xsksc wrote:
Sound's fine to me, I hope those people hurry up and vote though, I haven't slept yet.

Isn't it 9:40 in Scotland?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
June 22 2012 09:29 GMT
#1511
On June 22 2012 18:09 xsksc wrote:
What do you think of my proposal, Acro?

It depends a lot on who dies and what they flip what I think of the proposal. If town wins, then your proposal doesn't matter. If Nisani dies then I'm not sure it isn't just safer to roleblock you (if Hyaach is mafia he'll roleblock you anyway and if you're a mafia goon then roleblocking you prevents a NK and catches us a scum).

But lets talk about your roleclaim. I don't automatically agree with Tali that you're scummy for not jumping on 4F (BioSC didn't either), you did say this, after all:
FourFace's bulletproof DT looks really overpowered. He also tells us who he plans to investigate, which is insanely careless and gives off the impression that he doesn't give a fuck. I don't believe him.


And it was night and revealing a blue role at night is not something you want to do (by day ghost had already said the claim was bullshit). So I don't really think this is a reason to nail you to the cross.

However, BioSC flipped DT and giving town two DTs in a 15player game seems like a very strange setup. Do you have any insight into why we should believe your roleclaim?
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