On June 11 2012 23:21 Palmar wrote:
We should kill Blazinghand, he has been pushing a bad lynch based on inactivity, and when the inactivity is explained (the player is simply not playing anymore) he doesn't look at the evidence from the only point furer seems to have been playing the game, instead keeps his tunneling up.

Is this actually your only reason for voting me?

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 16:50 GMT

#719

On June 12 2012 01:46 Palmar wrote:

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Yes.

The fact that you even consider furer's inactivity a factor in the equation makes you scum.

That's interesting, because I think my case was pretty straightforwards:

On June 11 2012 07:22 Blazinghand wrote:
Palmar needs to move mountains to make up for Furerkip's silence.

##vote Palmar

He has not.

I'm not voting you because Furerkip was lurking, I'm voting you because you were lurking. Furerkip's silence means we have no read on him. The fact that you still haven't read the filter and the case on the only non-me vote indicates to me that you're not doing what you need to to establish yourself as town. After we mislynch me, tomorrow is LYLO (at 5-3), and you're a liability unless you can make some serious contributions.

You still have not.

So you still have my vote.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 16:50 GMT

#720

Oh, really, the RB isn't going to claim to save me? Really?

FINE

FINE THEN I SEE HOW IT IS

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 16:55 GMT

#721

Ok guys, fine. You caught me. I fucked up and you caught me.

I am the Serial Killer. N1 I fired at Furerkip, and was RBed. N2 I fired at VE. I did so because given a town JK and a town RB, it was weird that we'd have a miller.

The Mafia haven't killed anyone yet this game.

Don't lynch me YET, town. I CAN HELP YOU. I have infinite bullets. I don't know if I still have my night life, but I can at least try to kill a scum tonight, and maybe they won't shoot me anyways because you'll have to lynch me eventually. I know as an SK it's terrible to claim, but if I die today I definitely can't win.

Let me help you.

I even fuckign crumbed my goddamn SK role cause I thought it might come down to this. I was super sure Mafia RBed me AND shot me N1, too!

On June 09 2012 16:32 Blazinghand wrote:

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On June 09 2012 16:24 Hyaach wrote:
Read the quote again its not just about his meta. Its about him failing to pressure Pandain after the fake claim and going up with MrZ

Why bother to argue about game mechanics and balance like Mason claiming

On June 06 2012 11:54 Blazinghand wrote:

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
1. Blue roles will have more information in executing their actions. There will be 2 less chances for each blue role to waste a check/shot/roleblock on a townie. Times that by the amount of power roles we have and that is a significant deal. We won't be able to do that if they claim at the very end of N1.

We don't have a vigi AND masons AND an additional blue role and you know it.

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
2. We have more information. This is good, not just becuase we won't lynch the masons, but for all the information that springs out of confirmed townies. Your right, BH, confirmed townies aren't 100% right. But the fact is that they aren't scum, and that lets us make sure town runs the scene, not scum. I'd rather have an idiot town help guide town than any scum.

Given that the lynch seems to have consolidated onto me (or navi), I'd be very, very surprised if a mason somehow revealing themselves would change things today, unless Navi or me are masons, in which case my idea of "don't claim D1 unless you're gonna get lynched" applies quite well.

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
Masons getting shot = more blue roles able to do stuff.
Blues(if even that) getting shot = we still have confirmed townie.

Right... but one of these two things is gonna happen ANYWAYS. all that claiming NOW does is let scum choose which one. Claiming now is terrible.

On June 06 2012 11:49 Pandain wrote:
Basically we'll have more information, and now. We already (are pretty sure) that VE is a miller, I'm a vig, if we have tow additional masons that = 4/12 people already accounted for! Then factor in individual analysis and guesswork! That's a HUGE deal in lynch one!

1) Whether or not VE is scummy is a function of his play, not his claim.
2) We don't know you're a vigi at the moment, as you yourself have said.
3) all of this works just as well with masons claiming N1 unless a mason is gonna get lynched, in which case they shoudl claim.

MASONS: don't listen to pandain. Don't claim D1 unless you're gonna get lynched.

and what does the bold post shows again? His saving crumbs for a possible fake mason claim as well?

Oh, of course, IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE FOR SCUM TO FAKE A MASON CLAIM. Yeah. Clearly. That doesn't even look like a crumb for a mason claim. What the dicks are you talking about?

Like, I don't even know how to argue with this. It's like I'm arguing that a certain belief is epistemologically sound and my opponent is just shouting "grail" at the top of his lungs with no context or explanation as though that's an argument.

My crumb is Grail, an out of place word that is a holy vessel-- and Vessels are the signature unit of SK terran. SK = Serial Killer.

Yes, I'm not town-aligned. But don't kill me today. Let me help you. My only crumb for the VE kill was that he was the first guy I mentioned in my just-before-day post. I wanted it to be obtuse because I was hoping the town RB would claim and save me, but he's either an ass or he realized i'm the SK.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 16:57 GMT

#722

Look, I know the temptation is there to just lynch me because I'm the SK. I get that. But at this point, it's in my interest to help you guys. The Mafia is far enough ahead that I can't win at this point unless we lynch one today.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 16:58 GMT

#724

And at the very least, I'll probably eat a mafia RB tonight! That's always good, right?

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:01 GMT

#727

And yet here we are, at 02:00 KST and you still haven't read anything important related to this game.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:01 GMT

#728

On June 12 2012 02:01 Palmar wrote:
oh rofl, while I was writing that you claimed SK

gg baddie.

It's more important we lynch scum than we lynch me.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:02 GMT

#729

Like, if you really believe my SK claim, then you MUST admit, it explains everything.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:02 GMT

#730

And you also have to admit it's worth keeping me alive because right now I need to help the town.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:06 GMT

#731

Like, okay, let me call a shot tonight! I'll prove I'm the SK even more! let me live and I can *help* you. I'm a vigi with tons of bullets, and maybe I still have my night life and scum can't even shoot me tonight!

Hell, Snarfs has probably been planning for me to flip SK so he can look good. Let's lynch him today, I'll shoot someone tonight, and then tomorrow if you still think I'm not the SK, fine, whatever. But if you lynch me today, you go into LYLO with no mafia lynches-- no associative tells, no nothing. It's not worth it.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:08 GMT

#733

Actually now that I think about it, I probably don't have my night life. I was definitely shot during one of the first two nights, probably night 1, and there was no mafia night kill last night because Artanis was delivering the mafia shot, unless the 2nd RB can be account for, which as far as I know, it hasn't.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:09 GMT

#736

On June 12 2012 02:07 Palmar wrote:
I don't actually care though. You're anti-town and we have a guaranteed lynch. It's almost irrelevant if I believe you or not, I still want to lynch you.

bolded the part that's wrong.

I'm not! Right now, I'm not! sure, if we lynch and shoot a mafia, then yeah ok I'm anti-town. But right now I need you, and you need me. I want scum dead. I can HELP YOU.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:10 GMT

#738

On June 11 2012 03:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
A roleblocked serial killer will not be able to shoot but his bulletproof or investigation immunity would not be affected.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:10 GMT

#740

On June 12 2012 02:09 MrZentor wrote:
Why haven't mafia killed anybody?

I think they shot me N1, and the unclaimed roleblocked player OR artanis was delivering last night's NK.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:11 GMT

#742

On June 12 2012 02:08 ghost_403 wrote:

Still voting blazinghand.

LET ME HELP YOU

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 11 2012 17:11 GMT

#743

On June 12 2012 02:10 ghost_403 wrote:
Blazinghand, the only person you've pushed as a lynch target so far today is Palmar. You've been profoundly unhelpful at helping us find scum. This combined with the fact that we need to lynch you anyway makes you the ideal lynch candidate.

And Snarfs! I'd lie to lynch Snarfs!