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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:43 GMT
#544
there's no way this claim is legit.

How on earth was I RBed? Wtf? You're saying you were RBed, AND you're the JK, but *I* was RBED! I was shooting Furerkip!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:44 GMT
#545
Hyaach, you literally can't be the JK, because if you are, then there's NO REASON MY SHOT SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE THROUGH LAST NIGHT WITHOUT SCUM RBING ME. because NOBODY WAS JAILED.

HELL, even if I was scum and shooting you, the shot would have still gone through.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:44 GMT
#546
Did you even think this fakeclaim all the way through man?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:46 GMT
#548
Like, even if I'm lying about getting roleblocked, how did nobody die last night? There was no jailkeeper action! You were roleblocked!

Your claim LITERALLY can't be true.

What's it with people fakeclaiming against me this game?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:47 GMT
#549
On June 09 2012 16:46 Hyaach wrote:
Yes. I was RBed. I know my action on VE last night did not go through.

You claim you were RBed. Its not possible because I did not JK'ed you.
So you either are lying.
Or town has another RB which would mean you are town.


OR I WAS RBED BY SCUM AND YOU'RE LYING.

Fuck

ok man how are there 0 NKs. HOW. EXPLAIN HOW THERE ARE 0 NKs.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:48 GMT
#551
On June 09 2012 16:47 Hyaach wrote:
You are mafia and you got town roleblocked.


By a SECOND town JK/RB? Are you serious?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:48 GMT
#553
On June 09 2012 16:48 Hyaach wrote:
There is no VIG. You are mafia and got town blocked.


By a second jailkeeper?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:50 GMT
#556
On June 09 2012 16:49 Hyaach wrote:
by a role blocker.


Is there any reason at all for anyone to believe your JK claim?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:50 GMT
#557
On June 09 2012 16:49 Hyaach wrote:
A town role block and JK existing together is possible given the set up. It contains no medic.


The idea of town having an RB and a JK *and* mafia having an RB is possible but is super super super more unlikely than: you're a fakeclaiming scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:53 GMT
#559
On June 09 2012 16:52 Hyaach wrote:
Or any reason to believe your VIG claim?

Just read through my analysis about the night. I shut down every JK scenario. That's my breadcrumb.
I was so sure no one was JK last night so your VIG claim is sketchy at BEST.


You keep on saying my vig claim is sketchy, but I claimed it during the talk hour at night, and you've claimed JK for no reason with no way to substantiate it to provide to help to town whatsoever. You're even winning in the vote to lynch!

If you were really a JK, you wouldn't do this because you're just gonna get shot tonight like a punk.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:55 GMT
#561
On June 09 2012 16:54 Hyaach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 16:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 09 2012 16:49 Hyaach wrote:
A town role block and JK existing together is possible given the set up. It contains no medic.


The idea of town having an RB and a JK *and* mafia having an RB is possible but is super super super more unlikely than: you're a fakeclaiming scum.



And you would know how WGB gave out his roles?



Well you seem to quite well, mr "There must be an RB in addition to a JK"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 07:58 GMT
#562
You know what, I think Hyaach's fakeclaim speaks for itself. It's more helpful to my case than anything I could have said.

I'm gonna head to bed. I'll be back before the lynch.

Do the right thing.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 08:00 GMT
#564
Or you're scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 19:27 GMT
#585
Zelblade, why did you just write a huge post about how I'm not scum, then vote me?

._.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 19:29 GMT
#586
God, has it ever occurred to anyone that this "town RB" that is required for Hyaach's explanation to exist hasn't claimed because he doesn't exist? Clearly the real town JK isn't claiming because claiming right now would be terrible.

Remember, if you vote for me, you're saying "yeah, the scum didn't RB their shooting target N1 like every TL town does. Instead, they RBed Hyaach, who was totally a threat to them at the time. Also, we have both an RB and a JK in this game"

Is anyone whose vote is on me around? Can we discuss this?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 19:59 GMT
#587
So this is how it's gonna be, huh. Well if anyone shows up, make a post in the thread. I'll compose a dying message and play some dwarf fortress.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 20:21 GMT
#589
On June 10 2012 05:16 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 04:29 Blazinghand wrote:
God, has it ever occurred to anyone that this "town RB" that is required for Hyaach's explanation to exist hasn't claimed because he doesn't exist? Clearly the real town JK isn't claiming because claiming right now would be terrible.

But why'd he lie about getting RBed? All it did was strengthen the Hyaach vs BH situation (i.e. made it seem more likely that one of you are scum) which is something he would want to avoid if he is scum. I still haven't really decided who to vote for, actually. I am considering switching my vote onto you, but I have not made up my mind yet.


But why would a town JK Hyaach even claim? It didn't help his case at all. Either way you look at it, Hyaach is a scummy and not-great player who made sub-optimal decisions, so you can't just say "well it's illogical if he's scum" because it's also illogical if he's town.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 21:07 GMT
#594
On June 10 2012 06:01 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 09 2012 21:39 Shraft wrote:
On June 09 2012 20:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay, it seems that for Hyaach to be town there needs to be both a Town roleblocker and a Jailkeeper. For Blazinghand's claim, there just needs to be a vig and a mafia roleblocker. Going to go occam's razor on this.
##Unvote
##Vote: Hyaach

It is not that easy. If you assume that there is only a vig and a Mafia RB, you would still have to explain why Hyaach would lie about getting getting about 5-6 hours after BH had already claimed his roleblock. It makes no sense to lie about that as scum.

It was looking like either one of them was going to get lynched. Claiming a power role if you know mafia has one isn't a bad idea, especially if it means you either get the other guy mislynched first or expose a town power role that was forced to counterclaim. It seems like a decent strategy from the position he was in.

If you read more carefully, you'll notice that I am talking about his RB claim, not his JK claim.


Well, if Shraft was RBed, he has to claim it, doesn't he? If he doesn't claim it, the real JK knows he's hiding it and is scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 21:17 GMT
#598
On June 10 2012 06:15 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 10 2012 06:01 Shraft wrote:
On June 10 2012 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 09 2012 21:39 Shraft wrote:
On June 09 2012 20:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay, it seems that for Hyaach to be town there needs to be both a Town roleblocker and a Jailkeeper. For Blazinghand's claim, there just needs to be a vig and a mafia roleblocker. Going to go occam's razor on this.
##Unvote
##Vote: Hyaach

It is not that easy. If you assume that there is only a vig and a Mafia RB, you would still have to explain why Hyaach would lie about getting getting about 5-6 hours after BH had already claimed his roleblock. It makes no sense to lie about that as scum.

It was looking like either one of them was going to get lynched. Claiming a power role if you know mafia has one isn't a bad idea, especially if it means you either get the other guy mislynched first or expose a town power role that was forced to counterclaim. It seems like a decent strategy from the position he was in.

If you read more carefully, you'll notice that I am talking about his RB claim, not his JK claim.


Well, if Shraft was RBed, he has to claim it, doesn't he? If he doesn't claim it, the real JK knows he's hiding it and is scum.

You are missing the point. Read his original reason for voting. We are arguing from the premise that there is only one roleblocker, meaning that either you or Hyaach is scum. Voting for Hyaach means that he has to explain why Hyaach fake-claimed RB 6 hours after you claimed your roleblock.


I'm arguing from the premise that there is a scum RB and a town JK. In this possibility, I was RBed by scum AND shot by scum. Hyaach was delivering the shot, but he was roleblocked by the town JK.

Granted, there could be a single town JK and no scum RB, and the town JK saved me and Hyaach fakeclaimed being RBed.

But is that really more likely than "our JK JKed Hyaach, so he had to claim it, and scum stacked their RB on their night kill as they normally do"?

I think my scenario is more reasonable, and explains why Hyaach claimed an RB.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 09 2012 21:41 GMT
#608
On June 10 2012 06:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Blazinghand isn't particularly afraid of making risky plays. The question is not if Town would lynch him for it, but if Blazinghand thinks he could get away with it if he was scum. Given he could make this play as both town and scum, I don't think you're giving him enough credit here.


I hate to agree with Artanis pointing out how I could do this as scum but I'm a sucker for a compliment:

+ Show Spoiler +


Seriously, though, there's no reasonable town explanation for Hyaach's actions, and the simplest answer is that I'm town and he's scum.
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