After Liar Game I decided never to join another invite game. I simply feel outclassed because I'm simply outclassed. But then you guys needed a replacement and chaoser already had a 2 page filter and it was [M][N] so I thought what the hell. This means that I'm just going to post whatever I feel like and if some (or all) of it is dumb then you can just kiss my derriere.
chaoser had a 2 page filter and he was vanilla townie. If you look hard enough then you should be able to see that. It's going to take a while before I can get a 2 page filter and expecting me to appear hyper townie on day1 (well, my day1) is pretty silly.
Think we're at night 2 so I should have a good 48 hours to read the thread and form some reads. Expect anything more from me and you're going to be disappointed. If you really feel that chaoser was scum then I can only tell you to read his filter again or be wrong.
On June 17 2012 02:59 prplhz wrote: I'm up to date on the thread now but my head is spinning. Ask me anything. I kind of want to kill Radfield/Brownbear and subsequently gonzaw.
What makes you suspicious of gonzaw? Or Me/BB for that matter.
Do you think Palmar is mafia?
Don't really want to talk about gonzaw. I'm probably just getting the same 3rd party vibes off of him that everybody else is getting too.
I want to lynch you because you are still alive. I don't see why scum would shoot Ace and VisceraEyes over you. You can't really do much to defend yourself here and I guess that sucks (for both of us).
BrownBear had his weird emotional outburst against Palmar that seemed rather townie but then he didn't do much else which seems less towny.
Like, gonzaw just did two huge posts on Palmar. One of them says that Palmar is scum because he is too confident in himself, lol have you never played with Palmar before?
Anyway, then in his next post he's like "We can lynch prplhz, whatever". At the same time, when I ask for help after having replaced into the middle of a game and expressing my insecurities about playing with you lot, he doesn't seem interested at all. He doesn't appear to want to help me get started or anything. GreYMisT thinks I'm scum but he's been pushing me for something at least. gonzaw doesn't look like he cares and for absolutely no reason. It looks to me like he's just doing whatever this game and that seems 3rd partyish to me. 8 page filter and then I still don't get the feeling that he actually cares about town this game.
Never wrote that though, I said that you didn't care about town. Maybe it came out wrong and maybe it's a little harsh if you're actually town. I wrote something more concrete too, after 2 mislynches you seem awfully cheery and carefree and confident you have not only one, but two scum reads right now. I think a player of your caliber should know that you focus on one scum at a time. If only one of me and Palmar is scum then we lose this game because you're not pushing your biggest read and just saying "whatever".
GreYMisT is doing this too I think but I don't think he's scum right now.
I personally don't have that much invested in this game but I still just want to see Radfield hang for not being dead yet. We can focus on the second scum tomorrow.
I don't think that Palmar is scum no. It's mostly his demeanor and I'm probably shit at that but I think that he seems townie enough for now. Your case is a little far fetched with the "How is he so confident?!". I didn't read it all too hard 'cause you were all yelling at me to write something in this thread and I didn't think that Palmar was scum so now I'm here.
If you think I'm going to replace in and carry this game then you're crazy. Not only do I suck compared to most of you, I also replaced in mid way which is kind of hard to do. The rest of you have several days on me. I'm here and I'm giving you my opinion and that's really what I'm going to be doing for at least today. inb4 "l0L he r maek xcuze 4 not p0st".
Your filter is just so fucking huge, 8 pages that's 20% of this game. And it feels like you're all over the place, pointing at someone and then pointing at someone else and not really caring who gets lynched (right now of Palmar and me but I think this has been a general trait of yours in this game).
gonzaw is not scum and no matter if he is SK or town he wants to lynch scum today. He's also putting in quite a bit of effort so maybe he's right. Palmar isn't doing much and I don't really have a huge town read on him. He just seemed townie when I read the game. Anyway, lets just roll with this Palmar lynch today. I'm just going to sheep gonzaw on an opinion I don't really agree with but that's how it's going to be for now.
##Vote: Palmar
If gonzaw is scum then gg wp. You should try replacing into a game where everybody thinks you're scum by default, it's not really all that fun.
You're not all that better than me, you just spent a lot more time with this game than I did so it's just reasonable for me to sheep someone I believe does not want to lynch town.
I agree that right now I'm not doing a lot but that doesn't mean that I'm scum. It actually means that I'm town. Because I am town. Hopefully I'll be more helpful tomorrow.
Like, I am pretty sure that gonzaw isn't scum so I'm just sheeping him right now 'cause he's the most obvious non-scum there is. It's pretty hard to replace into a game where you are scum by default because of something someone else did (or didn't). I'm pretty sure I need to do something else tomorrow so I'll see what I can do.
I think it's hilarious that so many people feel so strongly about me when they say that neither me or chaoser did anything. Is that 3rd party behavior? Scum behavior? Really?
@GreYMisT Why am I SK? I absolutely don't get it. I can see that I could be a default lynch that you'd just resort to if you didn't have much else, but I don't see how you guys can all feel so strongly about me.
I just disagree, that's not scummy at all. It's not towny in any way but it's not scummy. Why would scum ever say "I'm not going to help at all", especially when I'm the last scum left? I can do whatever the fuck and write bullshit analysis 'cause I'd have no fear of doing anything that might potentially hurt my team mates. I only have me to worry about.
It's not that I don't care, I sheeped gonzaw for a perfectly valid reason. I read up on the thread and gave you my opinions. I think it's weird that you and Mr. Wiggles feel so strongly about me.
Alright finally I'm writing something. Better late than never, l0l!
BrownBear is probably not mafia. His interactions with Palmar early game looks like something that couldn't be faked by a scum buddy. While his first couple of posts seem ultra safe, this is something I see in most of BrownBear's posts. He doesn't get more and more cocky so it looks like he's just the kind of guy who likes to point out stuff that everybody is probably thinking anyway, which looks helpful. I don't like this post where he says that his Palmar vote was just a placeholder but then he left it there. Reading the thread it really looks like he thought Palmar was scum, even if his judgement was clouded by emotions it looked like he was really sincere about it in the moment.
Mr. Wiggles. I have a problem with Mr. Wiggles. From day1:
On June 12 2012 10:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote: [...] Personally, I think Palmar is being Palmar right now (or at least acting like it). He's been changing his scum meta recently from being just useless from Day 1 on to trying to act like himself for a while. I'm leaning slightly towards town now, but if he starts not pushing any cases or doing anything useful, it means he's scum. [...]
On day1 Mr. Wiggles writes the case that gets Palmar lynched on day3. Instead he keep tunneling chaoser for all game long when it's pretty obvious that chaoser is just gone. He even replaced out. On day3 he keeps trying to deflect the lynch from Palmar and onto me. You guys are all like "Palmar was bussed" but I don't see why scum wouldn't just try to keep him alive as long as possible, especially with an easy target like chaoser/prplhz around. Mr. Wiggles made it very clear that he wanted to lynch Palmar he just wanted to lynch me first because I wasn't very much available. But this is what I talked about earlier, if you have someone who you have a reason to think is scum (Palmar) and someone you don't have a reason to think is town (prplhz), then you lynch the former! 2-2-1 looks strong for mafia to me even though they'd very likely have to bus one of their own.
Other than that his filter is pretty short but I guess it's kind of ironic how I'm the one pointing that out. He also had a great big GreYMisT SK post, actually his strongest analysis in this game is about the person that mafia has to lynch. He still wants to vote me because of this case though. He apparently has ample evidence suggesting that GreYMisT is scum, but because of the lack of evidence that I'm town, he's voting me!
Also, he's Mr. Wiggles who is arguably always scum.
Okay I actually wanted to write about everybody but this'll have to do for now, maybe I'll get my opinion on the last two in before deadline but I'm voting Mr. Wiggles because I think he's off. Sorry if you're town dude.
This is my 20th town game in a row by the way if you don't count games where I requested an alignment and games where I didn't play on my own account (and I don't count those games 'cause then it would be a 3 game town streak and that's no fun).