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On June 13 2012 05:41 Palmar wrote: No, Rad is double confirmed, you're like only three quarters of confirmed.
You DID hear me say I have a gun right? Cause thems fightin' words.
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Wrong game some more. /facepalm
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Nothing I'm fucking stupid and keep mixing up games because I'm busy at work. Nothing to see here.
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I'm still working...I've fucked up and mixed up my games too many times for me to try and do anything productive while I'm here. 
Soon.......so soon.
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On June 13 2012 12:53 Radfield wrote:Mafia just did us a favor  I like that mafia teams keep killing off good scum players. Off to bed, I'll post in the morning. BB, you're reading too much into that post. I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies, something he refused to just come out and say.
This whole thread is full of people that are good scum players. WTF is this shit?
Radfield, this is bullshit. I appreciate that you're still going on and on with BrownBoy about this retarded post with Ace, but can you maybe find some scum? Your only read has been me, who you promptly backpedaled and said you didn't want to lynch. Palmar thinks you're double-confirmed, but I think Palmar likes having his ego caressed gingerly. Like a lover.
I think you're motherfucking scum. What do you think about that, SIR?
@Palmar I'm lynching Radfield. If you get in my way, you're fucking scum.
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I approve of a Hesmyrr lynch and will vote for him if I think Radfield isn't happening.
But it is.
I think a lynch between Radfield/Hesmyrr is going to hit scum. This is going to be a good day. ^^
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Radfield
On June 10 2012 08:23 Radfield wrote:Hizzah! No setup to talk about! No roles to direct! Nothing but cold hard calculation...!No medic and no ability to confirm townies means that every player needs to actually play, and establish themselves. No spamming, no coasting, etc. Given that, lets lynch into the players who are most difficult to find and the players with the best scum play. In this case that's ace and.... uhmmm.... well, just Ace I suppose  Seems like a good policy to me!
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. May I present Exhibit A: The Lie.
I've bolded bits that I: 1) loved to hear Radfield say, and 2) have been infuriated to find he was lying about.
What gets me also is the italicized statement. This is a terrible way to scumhunt. This is a MINI game. If we just lynch into strong scum players (which, by the way, is a lot of people in this game) then the game is just gonna end before we kill any ACTUAL scum. Radfield knows better than this. Radfield can do better than this.
I tried to consider that maybe he was joking. That Radfield didn't actually say this and mean it. However, now I present Exhibit B: The Agenda. This was Radfield's response to Ace's flip...
On June 13 2012 12:53 Radfield wrote:Mafia just did us a favor 
I like that mafia teams keep killing off good scum players. Off to bed, I'll post in the morning. BB, you're reading too much into that post. I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies, something he refused to just come out and say.
...so he's apparently not joking. What happened to all this analysis he was "so excited" to do? The only thing he's done was NOT help town find a decent lynch candidate D1, but he has refused to do anything but try and shovel shit at Ace.
Here's why Palmar thinks that Radfield is "double-confirmed". 1) Because Radfield's "lynch of choice" on D1 was, not surprisingly, Palmar's lynch of choice. And 2) Because Radfield was arguing with Ace N1 and Ace flipped with the Daypost.
However, Radfield didn't switch off to BrownBear in the end did he? And not only that, but Radfield has spent all of N1 arguing with BB. Over what? His interaction with Ace
Furthermore, Ace flipped with the daypost. Not only does this free up Radfield to go after his second best scum-read (BrownBear OMG THAT'S PALMAR'S LYNCH OF CHOICE! ^^), but it keeps him from having to actually make a case against Ace and try in earnest to get him lynched. Which, after all, was his intent, because again, by his estimation we should be lynching high-level scum players.
Also, Radfield is concerned about Palmar as town when he's scum. This I can attest to, as we were scum together in AA and one of our top priorities that game was to remove Palmar from the game. Sadly, he was bulletproof. And a jerk. And caught us both. But Radfield knows that others are aware of his tendency to get caught by Palmar early game. Radfield also knows that Palmar is someone that knows how to get people to listen to him.
I challenge Radfield to point out any actual content he's contributed to the thread. I further challenge Radfield to explain how lynching known high-level scum players in a high-level, invite-only game is a winning strategy.
Radfield is playing an exceptionally manipulative scum game. It's a wonder he's known for his poor scum play.
Vote for Radfield. Or Hesmyrr. They're both scum. I'm willing to lynch either one.
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Gonzaw I want you, someone who isn't Radfield but thinks Radfield is town, to go point to where you think Radfield is doing a good job of analyzing the game and coming to logical conclusions about the gamestate and deciding who he believes is scum please. Also, please point out any instances where Radfield "applies pressure" to someone in the game, to try and get a read of them. And finally, if you could highlight any points where you feel he's doing a splendid job of establishing his townieness to the class, that would just be super fantastic.
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To be clear, I'm asking you to defend Radfield, so this isn't going to be followed up with "SCUM WHY YOU DEFEND RAD?!"
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Also Wiggles towntold Gonzaw, back up off him. I'll leave him alive today based on what I've seen. Focus on Hes.
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Okay Gonzaw, your defense is bogus. Most of it is based on "his cheery, playful tone". Radfield is playful and cheery ALL THE TIME GUY!
Look at his response to Ace. You say "This doesn't seem the reaction I'd expect from a scum that was already found out by Ace"....except he immediately OMGUS' Ace "I like how when you are scum, etc..." and discredits what Ace is saying entirely. Not to mention the fact that Ace did seem to imply that Rad and Palmar were scumbuddies. However, what he actually defended against (and provided evidence for) was the notion that he was scum and Palmar was not.
And you say he doesn't want to jump on the case against me, but you're wrong. He does. The problem is that he knows that I'm town and can't think of scum motivation for anything I'm posting, so he wishywashies out of it right before deadline.
Wishy washy. Everything he's done has been wishywashy. Everything. Radfield isn't wishywashy.
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Oh, not to mention the fact that Ace DIED overnight Gonzaw. How does that tie into your theory about "That's not how I'd expect scum to react to being caught by Ace"
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Cue Palmar waltzing into the thread, telling VE to shut up and voting for BB.
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Arkham City was the game he was scum with me in.
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Enlighten me now that it's day Palmar. Why is Radfield doubly confirmed?
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YOU'RE BOTH SCUM AREN'T YOU!!??!????
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That's the shittiest reason for someone being double confirmed I've ever fucking heard Palmar.
First of all there's NO REASON behind it. It's all based on your "fuzzy feeling". You're known as a man of logic. These two things don't match up. You don't give any reason WHY his indecision isn't indicative of scum, because from my perspective that's exactly what makes him scum.
I'm going to ask you one more time, and you'd better fucking give me a good answer.
Why is Radfield town?
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##Unvote: Radfield ##Vote: Palmar
I'll make a case if I feel like it.
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For the record, I think this is bullshit. Its 5:44am here. I stayed up SPECIFICALLY to discuss shit with you, because I thought you were town.
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