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Toadesstern
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On June 14 2012 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Holy shit Payle...you guys wanna kill that dude? Ugh + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.qkme.me/3ppbv8.jpg) I'd love to see rasta shoot Zentor, or payle shoot zentor or any other combination but I'd really like zentor to be dead the most honestly. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On June 14 2012 14:54 supersoft wrote: and i need a full claim from toad please... I'm a normal VT. Nothing more nothing less. According to Gonzaw I already claimed yesterday but I don't see that. RoL needs to stop tunneling me for calling him retarded when obviously what he did was retarded (e.g.: his gun was stolen). Zentor needs to die I am very much happy to do that myself. | ||
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 But yeah later tonight. I guess I'll shoot into zentor or payle at 00:30 GMT (+00:00) tonight. That's already 2am for me. I probably will stay up a little longer until 2:30 or 3:00 but I won't promise that. Soooo if you have a reason you want someone else to be shot or one of them not to be shot tell me now or I'll flip a coin! (I won't flip a coin but I don't want to tell them who is going to be dead :3) | ||
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On June 14 2012 21:52 marvellosity wrote: If it weren't you I'd be getting extremely suspicious that you're trying to make it about you. But you're Toad. So I'm gonna let it drift to the back of my brain for now what are you talking about? The part when I said "now I want to shoot [myself]" ? We apparently have 2 people who'd like to see me dead for whatever reason (SuperSoft + RoL) so I might as well just prove I'm able to shoot someone, hit mafia and make them stop talking about me while guys like Payle and Zentor are running around. I'm actually not sure about rastaban at all. I'd rather not shoot him today. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On June 14 2012 22:07 marvellosity wrote: 2 people isn't very many. Like I said it's not all about you. You get people to stop talking about you by finding scum and looking pro-town, not by shooting people for god's sake. in this setup 1 guy is enough to kill me. I doubt Supersoft would kill me without town agreeing to it but RoL is crazy no matter of alignment | ||
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Anyways it's not about me, it's about the fact that we don't have an alternative. I just claimed I have a gun. That's the whole point of this "strategy" chaoser came up with. If it's between shooting me, Payle and Zentor so far and I have a gun that means I'm either shooting into Payle or Zentor because I am myself somewhat scummy according to other people. Sure if one of Zentor / Payle have a gun let that guy claim and shoot instead (I'd really like payle to shoot zentor) but if that's not going to happen I have to shoot at this point. That's the basis of chaosers idea he came up with. If we let people claim "sup I have a gun" and tell them "awesome that means you don't need to shoot" that can become a legit claim for mafia to make, especially if there's a gun-grabbing thieve on the loose. This has nothing to do with me, it just happens to be that I am the guy who just claimed to have a gun. Imagine what happens the next day if you really decide to not make me shoot? What happens if my gun gets stolen like RoL's? That would be a shitstorm as it would be with everyone else claiming to have a gun, not shooting and the next day claiming to be not able to shoot. So far I have no idea if this gungrabber is a one time only PR or more like the guns we have ourselves (there could also be a respawn cycle inbetween grabbing guns) or if it's this game at all. | ||
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Toadesstern
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Payle needs to get in here though. If he has a gun let him shoot Zentor. If he has no gun I'll shoot payle or Zentor. See you in about an hour when spain destroyed ireland 3:0. | ||
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Whatever you guys want me to do. Payle feel free to shoot zentor if you have a gun. | ||
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On June 15 2012 06:22 supersoft wrote: i probably will... toad i know you're around! It's 23:22 and you got nothing better to do. (Or do you have a gf right now, in that case you're excused.) Shoot this paylguy I'm actually doing the logo for SSB-mafia, no gf I said I'm going to shoot at 1:00 am my time, so what's the rush? | ||
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What are our alternatives in your opinion? I don't see another reasonable hit. | ||
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On June 15 2012 07:32 supersoft wrote: btw. Toad. We're supposed to kill scummy players. Not bad players. think about it. You don't want to catch my bullet. Start working on the following players: kitaman27 talismania Mr.Wiggles Kenpachi Cephiro two of them are scum on my list. 3 unsure. Kita said he had no internet. I'm kind of like Palmar in that regard. Yeah I think he would be a decent target but if that's true we're likely to hit a townie. I just saw Sandroba being town when I hydraed with him and his pc broke down for 2 days making him disappear like that as well. Plus I really don't like lying like that and consider it cheating as well (hence the palmar reference) so I'd like to give him an additional cycle first. Talis: Honestly no idea. I just played with him in PYP and we were both mafia. He's more confident than he was in PYP imo. I'd say a null overall because I've got vibes in both directions so far. Wiggles would be my #3 or #4 if I HAD to shoot him. He really hasn't posted a lot and I don't feel comfy lynching / shooting into him yet. Kenpachi is literally unreadable and I tend to ignore him until process of elimination either tells me to lynch him or to not lynch him. Said a bunch about him in LV / LV obs-QT just a couple of hours ago. Cephiro is my other #3 or #4. He has a couple of posts that are quite big which is troublesome for me. I haven't really played a lot with him on TL but in irc he looks really like another Toad with less walls of texts. I would have thought he'd post a shitton of little posts when being town. Other than that he looks "expandable" On June 15 2012 01:16 Cephiro wrote: Mostly caught up on the thread. I'm going to start polishing my cases in around 1,5 hours when I arrive home, and I will be refreshing the thread as I am finishing it so that I can answer to any questions necessary, as well as give my short opinion on the happenings so far. That's the kind of post I'd expect him to do as town in general and I don't really like his big posts (as in it doesn't feel town-cephiro-ish). Except for the answers on the case based on his play so far he has done nothing he promised in that post and again, that doesn't look the the cephiro I know from irc. So I'm not sure if what we have on wiggles is enough to shoot him. Ceph is more of a gut feeling again. The rest is to weak to shoot into imo. | ||
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The chance for gonzaw to be sane is something like 50% and the chance for him to be insane is about 50% as well (as he can't be paranoid). So we have a coinflip on Supersoft because that check means nothing. | ||
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Were you convinced I would not shoot and wait and this was all just a great plan? That's really giving me some thoughts right now. | ||
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On June 15 2012 08:06 supersoft wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480&user=32774 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340727&user=32774 Do you guys see the similarity of his openingpost? the thing is that he played pro-town as mafia in PYP. Which means you're accusing him to play pro-town and willing to lynch him on that idea? I'm pretty sure he would have done the same post as town in PYP and I'd rather take a look what wether or not he's explaining himself when taking stances. | ||
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