Bang Bang Mafia 2 - Page 46

On June 15 2012 07:48 Cephiro wrote:

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supersoft. The man who constantly jumps from one thing to another. The man who doesn't finish what he starts.


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Some of his first posts into the game. Random numbers pulled out of god knows where, this cannot serve to anything but cause confusion. And asking if VTs should shoot day 1, when it is our only reliable lynch method... seriously? No, we'll just no-shoot and give scum free kills. He also instantly drops the subject before others even have time to respond and moves on.


This is something I found interesting after first overlooking it. What makes you think we probably have a LOT of blues? And if you believe that is the case, why do you think a Miller massclaim on D1 would benefit us? If you think we have a lot of blues, that means you think the town doesn't possess many guns (unless you think there are vigilante(s)?), and in that situation outing any KP that town millers have, in a mass miller claim doesn't sound very smart to me.


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I have no idea what you are trying to achieve by this. Especially as the next time you show up, you claim to have a gun. If you were trying to confuse scum/SK, you'd do a better job by just shutting up about it.


This is funny, because the way he does it has currently no credibility. He has several times threatened to shoot someone in the thread, yet backed off every single time. Always appearing trigger happy, but never keeping his word.


Not sure if serious or trolling. I'll give you one reason just as an example, although there are many more good ones.
By not claiming his role (if he was town), he could be able to draw kp (into a possible medic protection), or a possible scum roleblock, which would be very useful if he was a veteran for example. Say scum would roleblock but not kill him, in hopes of getting an easy mislynch later on, as he hasn't even done an exact claim. Now, a roleblock on a veteran without a kill following through is quite a waste for mafia, no?

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For someone that wants to shoot Gonzaw this badly, I felt kind of disappointed when he let it go so easily. When people were talking of others taking the shot instead of him, he semt quite satisfied with it. Not only that, but he went "trigger happy", on payl shortly after:

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Yet no, nothing happens. He insists on being the one to shoot way too much for someone who doesn't follow up with anything. After doing this twice, why do you think anyone will even take a shot threat of you seriously? I guess you don't have a gun after all...


You suggest a mass roleclaim with absolutely no reasoning. How is it beneficial for town, as multiple scum could easily fake-claim VT, and asking all the so-said gun owners to take their shot would take way too long.

Now he's changed his mind and prefers ordering others to shoot, as he knows his claim won't be taken seriously:

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On top of this, he has asked multiple persons if they own a gun. Does a townie really need to know if everyone has a gun or not?

How can anyone find this kind of play pro-town?

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I have more on other persons, but it is getting late and I am way too sleepy to finish the other cases currently, so I will post them the instant I wake up, unless some smart-ass decides to shoot me.

On June 15 2012 07:56 talismania wrote:
Why have you ignored the part where gonzaw had a greencheck on supersoft?

On June 15 2012 08:03 Toadesstern wrote:
I find it quite troublesome that you're telling us not to shoot payl as well. You told me an hour ago to just shoot already so that we can go to sleep. What has changed? What would have happened if I just did what you told me to do and just shoot?
Were you convinced I would not shoot and wait and this was all just a great plan?

That's really giving me some thoughts right now.

On June 15 2012 08:06 supersoft wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480&user=32774

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340727&user=32774

Do you guys see the similarity of his openingpost?

On June 15 2012 08:06 supersoft wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480&user=32774

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340727&user=32774

Do you guys see the similarity of his openingpost?

On June 14 2012 11:56 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

The only downside I mentioned is if I claimed and instead of the town believing me or at least not questioning me that much until it was necessary that the entire town actually just called me scum for claiming or some other shenanigans. Even before I had my gun taken the entire discussion turned to me being a Miller and whether or not I was scum.

As I said, the only downside is if you all chose to focus on me + the claim. Claiming puts pressure on me to play a really protown game which I intend to do when the day post comes.

This downside depends on the towns attitude and whether or not you guys are stupid even to solely focus on me and my claim or actually do important shit. The actual benefits were in a few limited scenarios it would save a DT claiming and a wasted day shot which didn't depend on town stupidity but on how the game played out.

I basically weighed the possible game outcome of the DT ending up checking me vs the odds of you all being dumb. Since town stupidity is something we can analyze and don't have to attribute to luck we can punish people for that, however if it comes down to the DT scenario or one like it it is completely luck based which would benefit the mafia.

You guys are proving that I wagered wrong by focusing on this so much. The only time it deserved attention was when I claimed I didn't have a gun.

On June 14 2012 14:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
So I changed my mind in how I played this, I wrote that last part before I got my PM back from a mod. I do NOT have my gun back yet. I considered playing this out to milk info from kenpachi and toad but I figure in a 24 hour cycle its probably not the best idea nor the most town-orientated idea to lie to all of you for 20 or so hours.

It would of been analytical gold for me, but I'm sure I wouldn't live until it became useful if I tried it.

On June 15 2012 00:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

I figured if it was an SK power that its purpose was to give the SK enough time to kill a person before it could kill them. I didn't think it would last for multiple days because I judging by some of the other roles powers can't be used multiple times in a row on the same person, I wrongly took that to the next level and assumed I would have my gun back after a day.

On June 13 2012 01:36 supersoft wrote:
+ I want all of you to take positions. I want you to post your suspicions in red so all of us can see who you're aiming for.
In a setup like this, we have to make clear were we stand! No vote means scum can hide MUCH easier!!! They don't have to have ANY opinion if they don't want to.

We have to pressure a LOT more! I start: Toadesstern is suspicious, because he talks a lot and has no opinion on any player so far! Hasn't even an opinion about me?!
Except gonzaw (and this guy is talking too much. I am definetely not reading all of this again later -_-)

***and I remember that annulgame. I caught you day1. Was shot and facepalmed in the ObsQT and our PMs.

On June 13 2012 06:23 supersoft wrote:
Payl, you have 5 minutes. I am crazy and I will shoot you if you don't shoot gonzaw.

On June 13 2012 06:34 supersoft wrote:
maybe 5 min is too short -_-

going to play one lol-ranked-match. After that I chose between Toadesstern, gonzaw and payldude if they haven't already shot eachother.

On June 15 2012 06:10 supersoft wrote:
shoot payle now. i want to sleep and nothing is going to happen until we shot some useless bewns.
Payle refuses to communicate with us. Bullet please.

On June 15 2012 06:10 supersoft wrote:
payle obviously has no gun since he's scum and not GF. Go shoot him now.