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On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
payl is guilty as shit.
he turns up during the shoot-gonzaw fiasco only to call RoL a liar because payl couldn't read the thread.
He also completely ignores what's going on in the thread at the time despite posting several times.
Now the typical 'easy' case against Zentor. I could make a case against Zentor with my eyes closed and my hands tied behind my back. I agree that zentor may be an "easy case" but why does that make him a bad lynch? As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well, I just don't want to see people making excuses like this about zentor.
I'm inclined to agree here. While we don't want to waste the day, we should still go for the "easy" lynch, as it's the lynch that is most likely to hit red (though I suppose it isn't really lynching)
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On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
payl is guilty as shit.
he turns up during the shoot-gonzaw fiasco only to call RoL a liar because payl couldn't read the thread.
He also completely ignores what's going on in the thread at the time despite posting several times.
Now the typical 'easy' case against Zentor. I could make a case against Zentor with my eyes closed and my hands tied behind my back. I agree that zentor may be an "easy case" but why does that make him a bad lynch? As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well, I just don't want to see people making excuses like this about zentor.
This wasn't the point, the post was about payl.
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On June 15 2012 03:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 14 2012 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
payl is guilty as shit.
he turns up during the shoot-gonzaw fiasco only to call RoL a liar because payl couldn't read the thread.
He also completely ignores what's going on in the thread at the time despite posting several times.
Now the typical 'easy' case against Zentor. I could make a case against Zentor with my eyes closed and my hands tied behind my back. I agree that zentor may be an "easy case" but why does that make him a bad lynch? As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well, I just don't want to see people making excuses like this about zentor. This wasn't the point, the post was about payl.
So who should get shot today? Zentor or payl?
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I can't get on anymore tonight but I'd go for Zentor (Surprise!)
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On June 15 2012 04:08 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 14 2012 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
payl is guilty as shit.
he turns up during the shoot-gonzaw fiasco only to call RoL a liar because payl couldn't read the thread.
He also completely ignores what's going on in the thread at the time despite posting several times.
Now the typical 'easy' case against Zentor. I could make a case against Zentor with my eyes closed and my hands tied behind my back. I agree that zentor may be an "easy case" but why does that make him a bad lynch? As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well, I just don't want to see people making excuses like this about zentor. This wasn't the point, the post was about payl. So who should get shot today? Zentor or payl?
Why can't we have Zentor shoot Payl? (or cephiro) it seems like the whole 2 birds 1 stones.
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I'm back but I'm watching football. I'd rather shoot zentor because this is nothing like his "scumminess" from his last game as town. He claimed mafia as town if I remember correctly. This time it's totally different.
Payle needs to get in here though. If he has a gun let him shoot Zentor. If he has no gun I'll shoot payle or Zentor.
See you in about an hour when spain destroyed ireland 3:0.
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On June 15 2012 03:52 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, look at my past games.
Apparently I always look scummy regardless of alignment. -.-
I absolutely hate when people say shit like this.
Playing the "I always look scummy" card is the same as the "noob" card in my mind.
And marv, would you be happy if we had payl shoot zentor or vice versa?
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MZ, let's play a game.
Find a game where I was town and wasn't lynched by town besides GoT mafia.
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On June 15 2012 04:53 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, let's play a game.
Find a game where I was town and wasn't lynched by town besides GoT mafia.
That's literally exactly what I'm referring to in my last post. Rather than say "lol I always get lynched" why don't you prove your townieness by being useful. You'll notice that the people who are active and contributing are not up for lynch today. If you were town you could at least try to play instead of saying "I'm bad."
ffs this is almost claiming scum -_-
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On June 15 2012 04:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:52 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, look at my past games.
Apparently I always look scummy regardless of alignment. -.- I absolutely hate when people say shit like this. Playing the "I always look scummy" card is the same as the "noob" card in my mind. And marv, would you be happy if we had payl shoot zentor or vice versa?
Zentor shoot payl ideally. The fact that payl appeared during the height of the gonzaw 'frenzy', posted irrelevantly 3 times and disappeared, is shocking.
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On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:Cephiro asks questions of everone, but has no opinion of his own Look at this line Show nested quote +If you want to start doing some analysis, you should stop writing about possible plans yourself. Seems kind of contradictory to me. This nightphase is by no means just discussion about plans, in my opinion it is very well possible to analyze someone's behavior already. Yet we will never get any analysis from him.
I didn't know you could see into the future. Just because life doesn't always go as expected doesn't mean I am not going to give analysis. At the time of the post I was merely pointing out the contradiction in gonzaw's play. Townies do mistakes, but so do scum also. If no-one raises them up for discussion, they may go unnoticed.
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:How about this Show nested quote +The thing is, we can't be sitting on our asses waiting until we are absolutely mod-confirmedly certain about scum. Of course no-one should take hasty decisions by themselves, but if the discussion isn't going anywhere and we can't agree on a target, I'd much rather see someone take the initiative than sit around wondering what to do until it's too late. We can't sit around and yet that is all he does this whole game
Whole game? No. I was busier in real life than expected, that's all. I'll be showing you some "sitting on my ass" soon enough.
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:why.... well as you will continue to see reasons are never given for any of his agreements or disagreements
Ask, and ye shall receive. When I am merely agreeing to something minor in pretty much my first post of my game, do you really find it necessary that I back it up with a ton of reasoning? Some things are as clear as the sky and shouldn't need further reasoning, such as "I want us to shoot scum." Do you really need to hear reasons for that? But as said, ask and ye shall receive. Although my upcoming cases should have more than enough of reasoning.
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:
Here are two more comments to Gonzaw on why Gonzaw needs to analyze more instead of himself
Nice choice of words trying to make me look worse. I am not asking anyone to do analysis INSTEAD of me, but in ADDITION. If I encourage someone else to do more analysis, why are you reading that as me pushing my responsibility to others?
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:All this babble about everything being analyzable and how Gonzaw is lazy but he doesn't give a single read himself... why doesn't Cephiro care enough to do it?
Yes, I haven't given any more detailed reads yet, as said due to being busier than expected in real. However, you can see from my earlier posts that for example when Gonzaw asked for my opinion on marv, I gave it. How is that not giving a single read? Or do you just want a clear list of who I think is town/scum/SK? Well, you're not getting one. You don't need such.
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:
The other part to notice is his infatuation with an SK being in the game. While bad for town, this is very bad for mafia as they can get in a situation where they can not kill him since they cant lynch. You will notice this comes up again later.
Infatuation, lol. If I think that the SK is a reasonable threat for town, why should I not bring it up? As there seems to be 2 Night KP in the game currently, imagine a situation where we manage to kill the SK D1 or D2. Unlikely, but possible. That effectively halves the night anti-town KP instantly, buying us a lot more time in finding scum, whereas if we hit scum (which we also need to kill of course), they still hold the KP. See my point here? Hitting scum early is good, but hitting the SK is even better.
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:
He encourages marv passively while being vague about what he dislikes. Which of Marv's points are valid, which aren't we don't get to know. He says why wait for day time, but then he doesn't do anything. This is twice now that he pushes people to do things he isn't. I think this is huge, who says that they disagree with your points for wanting to kill, and then not only not explain why, but actively encourage it?
If you wished to know the exact points in his play I agreed with, you could have just asked. The reason I did not bring them up separately is simply that I was doing a short response to gonzaw's question, not an analysis.
On June 14 2012 13:00 rastaban wrote:Another condemning post. Once again we have more infatuation with the SK.
All the gonzow discussion going on and all we get from Cephiro is at the end he thinks it could be ok to kill him immediately if it means the killing of the SK. Why is he again mentioning the SK,
What kind of Towney spends 2 of their 3 posts on tracking down the SK? I think this is scum trying to tack down their competitor and trying to seem town. He even shows he hasn't paid much attention as he also is fine with the shoot the miller plan instead of the current one. Notice how he gives no input on this plan or the Gonzaw shot (other than to possibly delay the shot unless maybe they can get the SK)
So just because I talk about the SK along with several other things you say I'm obsessed? I think the SK is a threat to town, is there a reason why you don't? Why your points about obsession are ridiculous is because I am also talking about several other things. What if I called out another person for being obsessed with scum? Read your win-con again. All anti-town players need to be eliminated.
If anyone has questions at me, shoot. I will however respond very shortly, unless you request a more in-detailed analysis, but the more details you ask from me now, the longer it will take me to finish my cases. So if you ask something, get straight to the point.
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No-one's allowed to ask Cephiro anything until he's posts his cases!
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On June 15 2012 04:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 15 2012 03:52 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, look at my past games.
Apparently I always look scummy regardless of alignment. -.- I absolutely hate when people say shit like this. Playing the "I always look scummy" card is the same as the "noob" card in my mind. And marv, would you be happy if we had payl shoot zentor or vice versa? Zentor shoot payl ideally. The fact that payl appeared during the height of the gonzaw 'frenzy', posted irrelevantly 3 times and disappeared, is shocking.
Alright I can live with this arrangement.
When do we want zentor to shoot? I'm thinking four hours would be a good time.
Also Kita need to get his ass in here.
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Zentor didn't appear until quite late last time :/
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On June 15 2012 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:53 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, let's play a game.
Find a game where I was town and wasn't lynched by town besides GoT mafia. That's literally exactly what I'm referring to in my last post. Rather than say "lol I always get lynched" why don't you prove your townieness by being useful. You'll notice that the people who are active and contributing are not up for lynch today. If you were town you could at least try to play instead of saying "I'm bad." ffs this is almost claiming scum -_-
I showed why all the cases against me were ridiculous. -.-
I would like Cephiro to shoot Payl or vice versa.
I'm going to a going away party for a good friend of mine moving to another state, so this is probably going to be my last post of today.
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On June 15 2012 05:08 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 15 2012 04:53 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, let's play a game.
Find a game where I was town and wasn't lynched by town besides GoT mafia. That's literally exactly what I'm referring to in my last post. Rather than say "lol I always get lynched" why don't you prove your townieness by being useful. You'll notice that the people who are active and contributing are not up for lynch today. If you were town you could at least try to play instead of saying "I'm bad." ffs this is almost claiming scum -_- I showed why all the cases against me were ridiculous. -.- I would like Cephiro to shoot Payl or vice versa. I'm going to a going away party for a good friend of mine moving to another state, so this is probably going to be my last post of today.
lol you're not dodging this.
Shoot payl now.
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On June 15 2012 05:08 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 15 2012 04:53 MrZentor wrote:
MZ, let's play a game.
Find a game where I was town and wasn't lynched by town besides GoT mafia. That's literally exactly what I'm referring to in my last post. Rather than say "lol I always get lynched" why don't you prove your townieness by being useful. You'll notice that the people who are active and contributing are not up for lynch today. If you were town you could at least try to play instead of saying "I'm bad." ffs this is almost claiming scum -_- I showed why all the cases against me were ridiculous. -.- I would like Cephiro to shoot Payl or vice versa. I'm going to a going away party for a good friend of mine moving to another state, so this is probably going to be my last post of today.
dude, you're terrible. Don't fucking play this game, if you don't want to succeed. You realize that if you don't answer any quostions and play with us by keep saying that you're terrible and therefor unreadable it's not that cool for us.
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On June 13 2012 10:50 kitaman27 wrote:
I was writing up a nice long post about how gonzaw should be the last person we should shoot and I got ninja'd by like 3 min. -_-
Why shoot the claimed cop day one when he could either tie up the roleblocker in a watcher setup, take a night hit, or provide an additional check. You can all yell at me for complaining after the flip, but that's a poor decision.
I'll stop by tomorrow evening before the night post with thoughts for day two.
*searches for thoughts*
*finds none*
:<
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