On June 17 2012 09:25 layabout wrote:I think we should make use of the daytime before shooting.
I doubt that Meapak is a godfather.
+ Show Spoiler +I think it has already been said but talismania's role makes the existence of a godfather role very unlikely (although set-up speculation and trying to second guess the host is a little dodgy).
When you consider the power of the godfather role one can't help but feel that Meapak being a godfather would be absurd.( A godfather can daykill town to end the day and use their nightkill.)
I doubt that Meapak is the SK.
+ Show Spoiler +If there was no medic protect then i fail to see why Meapak would do what he did as an SK.
If no one claims a medic protect then it is unlikely that he is an SK.
If that is the case then Meapak is probably town.
+ Show Spoiler +His shot was reckless and recklessness is more of a town trait than a mafia one This is because mafia often feel like have to act carefully and think things through thoroughly before acting
On June 12 2012 17:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 15:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm wondering what's likely here:
RoL is SK who fake-claimed Miller to avoid DT checks and claimed to have his gun taken so he can't make good on his promise to shoot Toad...
...or...
RoL is Miller who actually had his gun taken away.
Anyone wanna wildly speculate with me? RoL I'm guessing you're still firmly in the "Miller" camp...
Wait help me follow the logic here, if RoL is SK then he has to shoot, so he fakes having his gun stolen and shoots FreelanceSatan. Scum take a shot at him and he gets saved?
It does seem possible, and I wouldn't put it past RoL to pull something ballsy like that. I'm very leery of the "my gun is stolen claim." Whatever happened, it's certain he doesn't have a gun now but that doesn't preclude him being sk and faking in a ballsy manner.
I'd like for someone to summarize the major points on gonzaw, using quotes if that's possible. From what I saw, bugs wanted to kill him and several people pilled on.
Also this post is actually kinda bad and I'm surprised I'm the only one with a problem with it.
Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 07:56 kitaman27 wrote:
The biggest problem with setups where so many people have guns is the town's lack of organization. It eventually ends up in a trollfest, where townies shoot each other, while the scum team sits in the background without attracting much attention. If you are town, don't forget to submit your vote for a 48 hour day cycle.
If you shoot five minutes into the game, you will be shot day two.
If you shoot within the first 24 hours of a cycle, you will be shot the following cycle
If you shoot without the town's consensus, you will be shot
I don't care if you shoot a mafia player. If you break one of those three rules, you will be shot in return.
I support a miller claim on day one. If they fail to claim on day one, then they get shot if they claim miller at any point after d1. Millers shouldn't claim night one as it assists the mafia team with blue sniping.
It seems very unlikey that the mafia team has two godfather type roles. Based on the way the shot cooldown works, they would be able to day kill four consecutive days. Combined with the six night kills that come with their deaths and lynches, thats a 2:10 trade, assuming there isn't a SK or town night vig role. I like chaoser's plan of forcing certain players to shoot, but I wouldn't leave it up to them to decide their own target. By shooting early and often, the mafia godfather gets the most out of his role. We shouldn't allow a random player to shoot at will.
Kita do you realize that the people shooting will most likely be townies? You're advocating for the death of lots of greens on the chance that you catch the gf or sk. I agree we need accountability but shooting people who step out of line like that isn't going to work. I made a post before this about holding ourselves accountable with I'll just repost here now:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 06:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Can we agree right now to not go rogue and shoot without discussion? There needs to be some deliberation behind peoples shots. If everyone just goes rambo then we'll never actually get a chance to scumhunt.
Discussion is the key. Perhaps that sounds a bit kumbaya, but you have to realize that if you shoot people just because they made an unauthorized shot you're probably going to hit a disgruntled townie. I'd also be interested in seeing you post more kita.
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