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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 17 2012 10:48 GMT
#1191
Bullshit.

Ace is messing with us.

Meapak can't have been gf.

That play would have been retarded.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 17 2012 11:01 GMT
#1193
On June 17 2012 19:53 marvellosity wrote:
Mafia heuristic: if an outrageous play is retarded from both a scum and a town viewpoint, it is usually from mafia

No.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 17 2012 11:16 GMT
#1195
On June 17 2012 20:06 marvellosity wrote:
worked for almost all the cases in my games

Again. No.
+ Show Spoiler +
We should probably delay this heated argument until postgame.


At the moment i am thinking about a mass role (or maybe just shot) claim to root out the last mafia.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 17 2012 11:25 GMT
#1197
10 alive:
Kenpachi
kitaman27
payl
marvellosity
Dirkzor
Zealos
MrZentor
Toadesstern
RebirthofLegend
layabout
1 mafia 1 sk 8 town
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 17 2012 11:52 GMT
#1200
maybe i should clarify this
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2012 12:59 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On June 17 2012 09:25 layabout wrote:
I think we should make use of the daytime before shooting.

I doubt that Meapak is a godfather.
+ Show Spoiler +
I think it has already been said but talismania's role makes the existence of a godfather role very unlikely (although set-up speculation and trying to second guess the host is a little dodgy).

When you consider the power of the godfather role one can't help but feel that Meapak being a godfather would be absurd.( A godfather can daykill town to end the day and use their nightkill.)


I doubt that Meapak is the SK.
+ Show Spoiler +
If there was no medic protect then i fail to see why Meapak would do what he did as an SK.

If no one claims a medic protect then it is unlikely that he is an SK.


If that is the case then Meapak is probably town.
+ Show Spoiler +
His shot was reckless and recklessness is more of a town trait than a mafia one This is because mafia often feel like have to act carefully and think things through thoroughly before acting

1. Godfather role probably exists. I don't know why anyone would think Talismania's role excludes the possibility of a godfather. That is retarded.

2. I explained why this would be a dipshit mafia move. I'm not going to do it again.

3. If there WAS a medic protect then it would clear meapak from being the SK. No one claimed it though. If there is NOT a medic protection then it could mean the SK held his hit, either that or the mafia + SK hit the same person. Unlikely.

You are wrong.

1 i didn't exclude the possibility but those two roles and a dead sk would make the game pretty easy for scum to win particularly if they killed off the people that would be awake at the deadline beforehand
2 i am not sure what you are referring to but having the godfather role (on a player awake at the deadline) at endgame would be a hell of a lot more powerful than not having that role.
3 This is just a miscommunication, it said "kill" in the OP, i interpreted that as them needing to "Kill", if they have been be blocked then they would not have killed and would need to. Apparently we are to ignore it anyway.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 17:44 GMT
#1220
On June 19 2012 02:10 Kenpachi wrote:
i want to see layabout shoot for today's kill.

must... resist..

anyway:
i can shoot.
we need players to claim whether or not they can shoot
i think that if one of the people that's claimed a gun is lying it's probably zealos primarily because he promised to be active, he promised to provide content and he has done neither of those things.

On June 14 2012 20:28 Zealos wrote:
So like, I have hours of spare time over the next week, so hopefully I should be useful for a change.
Rebirth, why should one of Ken and Toad be killed?

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From looking over the last couple of page there are some pretty strong cases on Zentor. I wanna hear a responce, and even if we think he is scum, we should hold off shooting him long enough to make use of the day.

Marv, you've been pretty quiet after mishooting, I wanna see more of you, you're a bastard to deal with as mafia, so get posting.


He tentatively agrees that the case on Mr. Zentor is strong but he delays giving a verdict before reading the case on cephiro.
On June 14 2012 23:52 Zealos wrote:
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On June 14 2012 23:27 rastaban wrote:
On June 14 2012 23:04 Zealos wrote:
On June 14 2012 20:58 supersoft wrote:
claim

You want me to claim?

Don't claim, we don't have any info on you yet though. I would love if you would look over the cases against Zentor and Ceph and give your thoughts and any reads you have coming in fresh. You just subbed in so I know you need time to catch up so start with the current cases if you can and then let us know your thoughts in general on how things are playing out. Were you following before you subbed in? How do you think town should proceed?

I was vaguely following out of interest of the setup, but haven't had very lose looks on anything. The case on My Zentor seems to be the strongest by far right at the moment, but I haven't read the one on Ceph yet, so I'll have to look back and see :3

And yet he doesn't follow this up with either a conclusion or any further mention of the cephiro case.

He appeared to think that Toadesstern was mafia for a while but he couldn't articulate why. 3 days ago he said he would "figure it out" but when he will figure it out is anyone's guess.
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On June 16 2012 06:59 Zealos wrote:
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On June 16 2012 06:14 layabout wrote:
Well i think Toad is making sense.

Zealos can you put the red text aside and give an explanation that relies on more than just a "Vague feeling of oddness"?

Not really. I don't plan on shooting him. Yet. I'll figure it out soon enough.


Thoughts?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 17:47 GMT
#1221
EBWOP:
He tentatively agrees that the case on Mr. Zentor is strong but he delays giving a verdict before reading the case on cephiro.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 18:45 GMT
#1223
Toad, does Mr Zentor feel "weird" too?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 18:49 GMT
#1225
But we aren't even a page into the day.

Why waste it?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 18:59 GMT
#1227
can you point me to the post in which he said he would shoot?

because the last few days and shots have been taken up by the "meapak incident" so no one has had a chance to shoot for a while.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#1237
On June 19 2012 04:05 Toadesstern wrote:
22:30 GMT (+00:00). That's 24:00 my time and I have to wake up tomorrow so I really can't make it later. I'm going to shoot into someone who has not claimed wether or not he has a gun or into someone who has claimed to not have a gun.
I am obviously going to pick the most scummy out of those.
do analysis, present it to the thread and then there we be a collective decision about who will shoot who.

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 20:50 GMT
#1240
Toad, why is it so difficult for you to write in any level of detail about the other players in this game?

If i take a look at your old town games or even at the set-up talk from this game you tend to write an awful lot.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 21:01 GMT
#1244
Ideally payl would shoot zealos but i don't object to you shooting him toad
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 21:13 GMT
#1247
My notes on payl:

makes valid points about zentor
may want to kill toad
lurker
claims he can shoot


I feel like i am missing something....
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 21:34 GMT
#1250
QUOTE]On June 15 2012 07:57 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Leaving in 15 minutes, so if you have anything you want to ask, use that time. If today's shot is going to be between payl/Zentor, I'd rather see payl shot.[/QUOTE]
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 21:34 GMT
#1251
EBWOP
On June 15 2012 07:57 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Leaving in 15 minutes, so if you have anything you want to ask, use that time. If today's shot is going to be between payl/Zentor, I'd rather see payl shot.


well this is sorta shitty timing
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 21:41 GMT
#1253
On June 19 2012 06:36 Zealos wrote:
Let's see the result of the shot before we get too upset about it.

with respect i woulod like to wifom some more


On June 17 2012 02:49 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well


Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 04:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And marv, would you be happy if we had payl shoot zentor or vice versa?


Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 05:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Shoot payl now.


Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'd like you to shoot payl right now.


Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 08:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Shoot payl now please.


Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 08:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Shoot payl please.


Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 08:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Go with payl. He's the guy who I feel like supersoft is try the hardest to shift focus away from.


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On June 17 2012 02:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Tomorrow we'll have toad shoot payl. From there we move to kita.


Eight different times you mention how you want payl dead. Based on the number of times you request his death, you seem pretty confident. So why are you shooting the only player to hit scum? The previous game Occam's razor was your best friend, but now you're convinced he is scum. Why are you shooting at 3am in the morning? If you truly felt you were about to snipe the godfather, why aren't you interested in seeing how other people react? Did you just figure your time was up based on my post before the night and wanted to get the shot in before I could hit you?

every spoiler clicked is like a slap in the face
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 22:01 GMT
#1256
well shit
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 23:01 GMT
#1258
Remember that tomorrow might be lylo. I think that one of these zealos and kenpachi need to die tomorrow.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 18 2012 23:16 GMT
#1259
since no one has claimed roleblock since wbg (me) day1 we (or at least I) can infer that mafia have been roleblocking and killing their targets+ Show Spoiler +
or they have been roleblocking people that decided not to claim because of....
which suggests they have been aiming for the sk.
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