EPTYou at no point actually took a stance of "VE must be scum because of X" or "VE must be town because of Y".
Same with hiro/NT. All you're doing is setting up scenarios and playing out future eventualities based on what is happening in the thread.
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You at no point actually took a stance of "VE must be scum because of X" or "VE must be town because of Y". Same with hiro/NT. All you're doing is setting up scenarios and playing out future eventualities based on what is happening in the thread. | ||
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keep an eye on Katina and Navillus. There should probably be a scum between nova and hiro as well based on the claim, though it's certainly possible both are town because of a frame or whatever. Nova should most probably survive tonight; if he doesn't have a check due to roleblock then it probably doesn't mean much. However if he actually does have a check then evaluate the claim based on whether the check makes sense. I am not confident in either hiro or nova flipping scum because I haven't paid much attention to either. If I had to pick one to kill I'd probably kill Nova on the notion that he actually breadcrumbed vet to fake claim that. Townies shouldn't be thinking of those types of things. Then again, townies won't often actually reveal that they were doing something like that (understand my confusion here?) I am going to assume scum will shoot froggy and I will live, which means I'll be around tomorrow. If I die and froggy doesn't then pay more attention to his opinions. He's not infallible but he's confirmed town. So far he's been making enough sense as it is, so I would put trust into his reads. | ||
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I am actually inclined to agree with Katina. Katina are you willing to work together? So far all game you've been sitting back and watching town burn. I've thought you are scum and I've been wrong before. Perhaps I am wrong again. | ||
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give me your opinion on Navillus. | ||
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The only explanation for it is that they don't have a roleblocker and they wanted to lock the lynch on hiro. It's one of the oldest scum tactics; when you're in a situation where town will lynch a guy if someone else dies, scum kill the guy and then watch town tear itself apart with no real effort of any kind. I mean think about it, if hiro is town it's a perfect plan for scum. | ||
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If scum framed hiro then it makes total sense that Zealos would call hiro scum (and claim DT at that.) Obviously the pussy way out is to simply kill hiro. I suppose we can do that if we're lazy and I certainly feel lazy. I just think it's too easy and that scum would probably not kill NT if that was the case. Maybe I'm just paranoid and this scumteam doesn't know what it's doing. Who knows. | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:18 Mattchew wrote: but that means scum framed hiro 2 nights in a row as NT dt checked him the night AFTER zealos's claim nah that's not necessarily true. Scum only had to frame him n2 because zealos died d2. The suspicion on hiro would be on n2. Scum weren't trying to make hiro look like scum until d2. Anyway if you guys are not willing to lynch navillus then I'll go with hiro. | ||
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##vote Hiropro | ||
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On May 31 2012 05:39 froggynoddy wrote: Guys/girl wtf. We cannot kill hiro. N_T getting killed by scum only makes sense if if hiro is town. N_T was far from confirmed in his role, scum kill me last night and then get an easy mislynch on N_ N_ . Killing N't is forcing a hiro lynch, why would we ever do something scum is forcing us to do? We should lynch Katina. She is definite scum,her play makeshift sense as town. ##vote Katina I agree with you about Katina. If anyone's noticed, as soon as NT died Katina shifted to attacking Mattchew. When I said "Katina maybe you're right" to see if she'd do anything more she continued to attack Mattchew. Fact of the matter is that Mattchew is probably town at this point and Katina would probably have seen the signs if she was town. I question her motives and her play all game has been really shady. Sadly because of the confirmed red check we have people not wanting to lynch anyone but hiro. Anyway, there's two explanations and unfortunately we have no way of knowing which one's more likely: 1. NT was shot because scum have no RB, and as froggy's shot was spent it was a pick your poison type scenario for scum. 2. NT was shot because he had a framed result on hiro, which meant that killing NT would mean a free town kill for scum. Obviously both of these scenarios entail opposite actions. In support of a hiro lynch though, he does nothing to defend himself. It's as if he's doomed himself to death. What's weird about this, though, is that Katina for the most part refuses to comment on lynch candidates each day. She always brings someone in who has no real chance of being lynched so that she can continue to feign outrage. In addition when asked about Navillus she pretty quickly changed the suspect despite finding him suspicious. From the evidence right now it seems like all 3 of them (hiro, katina, navillus) might be scum. | ||
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However, seeing as there are 3 scum left who do you think the other two are? Tunkeg and Navillus? | ||
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##unvote ##vote katina | ||
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Katina, normally your reads as town are good but you do almost nothing to establish yourself as town. You push your cases very weakly and for the most part ignore town discussion that has nothing to do with your targets specifically. This makes you look scummy. I feel like in liar game you didn't do that as much, but in this game it's far more prominent. (as a note: you do it as scum too) I think the only time you mentioned Zealos, for example, was like two hours from deadline. That's very scummy, since any scum can come in at that point when the lynch is secured and then tack on a vote, as it doesn't even matter. The other problem is that you refused to acknowledge evidence that Nova was town. If you noticed I got a town read on nova within about 3-4 hours of attacking him in d1. You, on the other hand, kept up that tunnel throughout day 1, day 2, and day 3. That's a huge waste of time and incredibly antitown. Now you do the same with Mattchew who I believe to be town. Since normally your reads are very good and at the very least you are open to a change of opinion I don't think you can be town this game. | ||
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Navillus is the logical choice of lynch next. | ||
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Blindly trusting a check without considering its context is not only brazenly stupid, it's scummy too. | ||
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gg gl hf town! | ||
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Also screw you VE lol. I didn't do anything to agitate you and yet you did the exact same thing you did in Liar Game. I tried keeping my cool for about 40 pages before I just couldn't take anymore | ||
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 Great job by marvellosity btw, I think you played really well. | ||
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I don't blame anyone for lynching me. I hope my credibility has tanked to a level where I'm not so feared as scum that anything I do warrants an instant lynch. I really hope this is not the reason you played the way you did, honestly. | ||
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