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On May 25 2012 07:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Same shit with Mouldy. I think Zealos is the scummy candidate and Zelblade is the lurker candidate to me. *nodnod*
Alright, here's a question for you: why do you think Zealos is more likely scummy than bad towny?
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You do realise he said that in sarcastic reference to where he said the exact same thing about Mouldy earlier, right?
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On May 25 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote: You do realise he said that in sarcastic reference to where he said the exact same thing about Mouldy earlier, right?
Like, normally I'd understand what you posted in isolation, but it can't be read in isolation in this particular case
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On May 25 2012 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, yeah...I don't know that it's scumminess that I'm seeing. Like, his logic is TOO bad to be like...contrived, or planned.
I'm not sure what to do this lynch, so what I'm going to do is vote for the person I'm most convinced is scum. That person is wherebugsgo.
##Unvote: Zealos ##Vote: wherebugsgo
*shrug*
What happened to discussing two candidates and consolidating?
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You have a point, we are kinda just talking to each other at this stage.
Need to see how people post tomorrow. Hopefully zelblade shows up. I'd like to hear from wbg on his other reads.
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On May 25 2012 18:56 Tunkeg wrote: WBG is scum, so:
##Vote wherebugsgo
Ugh. Sooooo much has gone on since your last post, and this is what you come up with?
Really?
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On May 21 2012 05:12 Tunkeg wrote: 1. I will not be posting as much as before. I will try to post better and longer posts though. And less one liners and useless crap.
Oh rly. Let's see:
On May 25 2012 18:56 Tunkeg wrote: WBG is scum, so:
##Vote wherebugsgo
On May 25 2012 19:08 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 18:58 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 18:56 Tunkeg wrote: WBG is scum, so:
##Vote wherebugsgo Ugh. Sooooo much has gone on since your last post, and this is what you come up with? Really? Yeah, really. Thats all you will be hearing from me for today. Do with it as you please...
On May 25 2012 19:09 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 19:08 Tunkeg wrote:On May 25 2012 18:58 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 18:56 Tunkeg wrote: WBG is scum, so:
##Vote wherebugsgo Ugh. Sooooo much has gone on since your last post, and this is what you come up with? Really? Yeah, really. Thats all you will be hearing from me for today. Do with it as you please... Or maybe I will post some right before the deadline. We'll see.
On May 25 2012 19:56 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 19:45 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2012 19:09 Tunkeg wrote:On May 25 2012 19:08 Tunkeg wrote:On May 25 2012 18:58 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 18:56 Tunkeg wrote: WBG is scum, so:
##Vote wherebugsgo Ugh. Sooooo much has gone on since your last post, and this is what you come up with? Really? Yeah, really. Thats all you will be hearing from me for today. Do with it as you please... Or maybe I will post some right before the deadline. We'll see. because it totally makes sense to make a case on a person right before the LYNCH deadline, right? it still saddens me that I have to consider that you could possibly still be this dumb as town, but I'm going to go with the simpler route and assume you're scum. It won't be a case. don't worry.
On May 25 2012 20:08 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 19:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Well it's either a DT check or a case, neither of which are believable.
Wrong again, there won't be any information that is relevant for todays lynch in it...
A lot of one-liners and useless crap.
I'd be down for a Tunkeg lynch.
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On May 25 2012 20:24 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 20:23 zelblade wrote: To be fair most of that was a conversation with WBG.
Tunkeg does look like scum who has given up though, seems like he isnt even trying anymore.
But zealos first.
@zealos who is the most likely to flip red today? Good observation.
Could we get a mod-warning for this type of play? Is giving up and not trying acceptable in TL land? Thanks
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Alright, cool. I know Matt and I shouldn't have sworn each other, but imo anything relating to giving up or not trying is simply 20x worse.
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Anyway let's not discuss it anymore.
I don't know what to do today now.
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On May 25 2012 20:59 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 20:57 marvellosity wrote: Alright, cool. I know Matt and I shouldn't have sworn each other, but imo anything relating to giving up or not trying is simply 20x worse. totally agree people in real life solve problems by shouting and even attacking eachother not by just sitting down and letting themselves get kicked the crap out of
As a brief aside - why did you let me kick the crap out of you in LIV then? lol 
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On May 25 2012 21:08 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 21:05 Zealos wrote:On May 25 2012 20:23 zelblade wrote: To be fair most of that was a conversation with WBG.
Tunkeg does look like scum who has given up though, seems like he isnt even trying anymore.
But zealos first.
@zealos who is the most likely to flip red today? Tunkeg clearly isn't mafia, he's just a godawful town. there is no way anyone who doesn't know tunkeg's alignment would come to this conclusion stick with the zealos vote
Mattchew - do you accept zelblade's real life excuse and what he's posted? How has his return altered your read?
Zealos - if you weren't gonna lynch Hiro, then who?
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On May 25 2012 14:46 zelblade wrote:
Another targert of intrest is Tunkeg. I already mentioned that I dont think that wanting to change one's meta is scummy, since players regardless of alignment might want to try out new styles of play. One point against him is that he didnt post that post before the game, but that is a minor factor to what I feel about his posting. He seems to emphasise that posting lists and reads gives "accountability", when in reality, it does nothing. How does knowing his reads, especially considering they are weak D1 reads which could easily be backpeddalled on, help town in anyway whatsoever? I have no idea what he means by accountability, considering townies can and will change their opinions overtime, and we do not need to know this. Notice how he also says that knowing his reads will help when someone is making a case on him. Wut? Why would a townie ever post something like that?
Lets lynch Tunkeg tomorrow after we get rid of zealos.
Before Tunkeg's recent... posts, I actually had a tentative town-read on him. Because he had ET marked as town originally only to make a case on him subsequently. This did not seem like a scum move to me.
What do you think about this?
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Fuck, my faith in my own lynch has been eroded recently
On May 25 2012 13:49 Ver wrote: Similarly, in most cases someone who appears so unbelievably guilty yet isn't giving up is almost always going to be a townie.
I am officially right now a confused jubjub. Everything in my case in Zealos is true, and in many ways he has played terribly. But my confidence that he's scum is slipping away.
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EBWOP: obviously not just because I saw that post from Ver. But because Zealos has been arguing with me like a stubborn git and posting tonnes which almost further serves to incriminate him because he can't be logically consistent a lot of the time.
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On May 25 2012 21:55 Tunkeg wrote: Allright got the warning. I will actually write some of what I would write if you guys lynched me. Hence my reply to WBG if I wanted a townie to get lynched.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting lynched at all. I think this game have taken the course as many games do, where everyone keep mouthing off about how everyone else is bad, stupid, fucking useless etc etc (I don't care if it is directed towards me or anyone else, for instance the way syllogism played in liars should be frowned upon be the entire community). This is an environment I don't want to play in. It annoys the fuck out of me that you guys aren't capable of playing this game through arguements, but have to resort to namecalling and domination techniques. It actually annoys me to such a degree that I can't read the thread properly, nor play the game properly, and start caring less and less about the game. If TL towns can't deal with badmouthing players ruining the townenvironment the scum will keep dominating. I have told Artonis to do as he please about it. I won't bate you into lynching me as long as you guys don't bate me into writing obvious "LYNCH ME!" stuff.
I'm going to defend both myself and others here. As far as I can see, there have been 3 main 'arguments' - Me/Zealos, VE/WBG, Me/Mattchew.
1. Me/Zealos - yes, we went at each other a bit. We never crossed a line though. And guess what? Totally of our own volition, we pulled the thread back into normality, and I got a read and case out of Zealos. Net outcome - productive, even if it took some spam preceding it.
2. VE/wbg. You should know these 2 regularly argue. Look at Liar as an obvious and recent example. This is what they do together.
3. Me/Matt. So we swore at each other which we should not, and then since it's been back to productive conversation. Tempers flare and arguments will be had, it is mafia. As far as I know, there is zero bad blood between us.
Your attitude is also deeply hypocritical. Taken from your meta-change post:
On May 21 2012 05:12 Tunkeg wrote:
Many times it took up to much space, and some might even label it as disruptive.
2. I will control my temper. I will not be getting into any fights, I won’t be starting any and I will try not to get pulled into one. 3. I will try to post better analysis, and avoid insulting the ones I analyze. I can clarify, but I won’t argue with nitpickers.
My biggest weakness is ... my temper.
Freely admitting your posting in the past has been disruptive, temper driven, involved in fighting, argumentatitve, and again temper.
And here you are ragequitting because people have argued. Wow.
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On May 25 2012 22:11 Nova_Terra wrote: is it allowed to make the judgement that Tunkeg is town because artanis PM'ed him a warning?
Why does that make sense?
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