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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Bugs do you buy NT's claim? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Well lets wait for him to wake up. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
Hiro was also under some fire but not enough, it would have been a massive problem to determine his alignmenr without a check thanks to zealos. I was planning on claiming vet to keep thhe mafia off of me so that i would have time for more reads. In this situation i would like to lynch Hiro first, then VE. i would lynch VE first if I could make sure we would lynch Hiro next. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Anyway Im assuming you decieded not to breadcrumb your checks. I guess that I could see what you mean regarding the WBG check and your behaviour after it, but I dont understand why you would check someone that had a decent chance of dying n1. The hiro check made sense I guess. I also dont see why you decided to claim DT because VE claimed. Just saying its a "claimfest" isnt a reason for you to friggin claim, and last I checked a random medic claim doesnt mean you need to claim all your blue roles. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
dunno if you guys read all of my meta but if you did -WIFOM AHEAD- you would see that the game i played most similar to this was when i was cop | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
the check results i think are relatively obvious from my behavior afterwords | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
VE I think you know that you leave us no choice but to lynch you. But if you are in fact the doctor, and just did this out of afffect or rage, then I am willing to write it up as a mistake (kind of like my "ragequit" earlier), and won't hold any grudges. If you are in fact the doc I will expect you to contribute in a non abrisive and non disruptive way for this last 2 days. Post up your reads, don't get into any fights, and don't shit up the thread. If you do this as and you are a doc, your mistake is forgivable. If you are scum everything goes. I also wish we could have at least pretended that we might buy VE's claim, as I think his posts if scum would give us more information. More on the NT cop claim in my next post. ##Vote VisceraEyes | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
Arguements that it might be true is: - He have been telling thread that WBG is town from day 2 and forward. - He instantly started a HiroPro push on day 3, and turned on his view on me based on this. - The timing of his claim is wierd if scum. VE just came out and claim, and if NT is scum and VE is not it would be easy to just join in on the VE lynch. If NT is scum and VE is scum it also a very high risk maneuver for scum. Arguements that it might be false is: - No breadcrumbs on his checks. - He actually mentioned he contemplated claiming Vet and have breadcrumbed VET, which I find strange. - He didn't indicate any suspicion on Hiro Pro before his claimed check on him. Except he told that a vig hit on Hiro Pro would be advicable, and imo you shouldn't check someone you want a vig check on. - In my opinion there are other targets than Hiro Pro that would be better to check on night 2. - The timing of the claim. This is on both sides, because VE is great at messing up the thread if he is scum. So this might be a doubledamage claim in the sense that these moves would throw us completely off. My conclusion is that I can't decide whether or not Nova_Terra's claim is true or false. Anyways, whether or not the claim is true or false there are alot of insecurity tied to investigations this game. You have the framer which in worst case scenario could have framed WBG night 1 and made him appear town and framed Hiro Pro night 2 and made him appear as scum. You have the Godfather role that might have made WBG appear as town. You have the miller that might have made Hiro Pro appear as scum. My take on this is: - If WBG is scum it would be very likely that he got framed night one, if scumteam have a framer. There is also a 1/4 chance he would be the godfather if the role is in the game. To me this means that if Nova_Terras claim is true then his check on WBG night 1 most likely means WBG is town, but shouldn't be taken to much into consideration because of the uncertainty. - If Hiro Pro is town I don't see it as very likely that he got framed night 2. This leaves the chance that he is miller, which regardless of whether there is 0,1,2 isn't a high chance. To me this means that if Nova_Terras claim is true then his check on Hiro Pro night 2 very likely means Hiro Pro is scum, and should very much so be taken into consideration. | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
I purposely didn't voice suspicions or my thinking of him as inno because I didn't think that I would claim today Let's lynch VE or Hiro at least | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On May 27 2012 20:41 Nova_Terra wrote: It became apparent to me that hiro wouldnt have.been hit by vig over froggy or katina or acid due to sheer amount of people wanting them shot I purposely didn't voice suspicions or my thinking of him as inno because I didn't think that I would claim today Let's lynch VE or Hiro at least Agreed. We have to lynch VE today, the way he did it pretty much have forced our hand. Then if you survive the night you will post a new read, and we will have to WIFOM why you survived the night and if your claim is believeble, if you don't and you flip cop we should probably look into lynching Hiro. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
*grumbles at being killed but nonetheless takes it as a compliment* gg go town, you can do it! | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Wait, it's still as I said before - if I flip town you guys better flip Bugs next. There's literally no way we're both town at this point and anyone who doesn't see that has really been taken in by scum this game. At any rate, I'll cooperate fully as I promised. | ||
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zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Do you really think bugs is going to shoot someone he asked to be med prot? Considering that he was in a "trusted" position (I am relatively sure most medics would follow his advice) that is a very wierd move no? | ||
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