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On May 21 2012 22:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 21:57 Zealos wrote:On May 21 2012 19:53 Acrofales wrote:
@Zealos: if I were to go by GoT mafia I would lynch you off the bat: you were the 5th scum, the way you played that. Your reads were terrible that game and scumteam was rather happy to keep you around. I would try not to draw attention to that game if I were you. Sheeping ET is maybe marginally better than actually trying to follow your own reads, so kudos. Trying to get the attention off you by using a personal insult about the first game I ever played seems a bit shit, you got anything to say about the actual case I made, instead of about me? On May 21 2012 20:39 zelblade wrote:On May 21 2012 18:30 Zealos wrote:On May 21 2012 18:00 Tunkeg wrote:
@Zealos
I can see why someone would throw out a random vote on someone to pressure as number one (even if I don't think it is a great way of pressuring).You do this as number two on VE, for no reason. And next you are sheeping ET on his Acrofalis vote. Why did you vote VE? And could elaborate why you are voting Acrofalis?
Ok, vote on VE was a joke, as also as a cheeky backup vote in case I forgot to vote later in the day :X I'm voting Acro because for the time being he is the best choice in my opinion. ET's case makes sense to me. Add this to the fact that in the last game he was scum he played similar to the way he is in this game, yet wasn't lynched, and I don't want to make the same mistake again. If he can start posting usefully, then it would help alleviate some of this suspicion. Hey, care to elaborate on how his playstyle is similar? And yeah, right off the bat on that game, he voted on some random guy, followed by being called out by someone as scum, then proceeded to WAY overreact in the guise of being "Afraid of death" Obviously, now he's tried to run away in the face of being called out, his replacement will have to convince us he isn't mafia. A couple of things about this post and in general. Firstly I will not be held responsible for Acro's posting, deal with it. I will be held responsible for my own. I replaced into SNMM XI and said this, and I was townie: Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 07:02 marvellosity wrote:
Second of all, I am not AcesAnoka. You may think his posting is terrible as hell or that he was scummy and lurky or whatever, but please approach my posting with an open mind. If you're gonna call me scum, call me scum because of what I've done.
Secondly, your post I quoted. Were you seriously having a go at Acro for insulting you for your first game played, when your entire case on him rests on his scum-play on the first game he played?
If you don't know the difference between an insult and analysis, then you're not going to be useful this game.
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The point, Zealos, is that whether it was addressed as an insult or not, Acro said your scumreads were bad that game. I am going to presume he is telling the truth, or you would have corrected me.
You cry "but it was my first game douchebag!" before using Acro's first game as the basis for your case.
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that makes me kind of sad i realize; I like acro. I hope I didn't scare him away 
If you don't know the difference between an insult and analysis, then you're not going to be useful this game.
what does this even mean? pls think a little more before you write your sentences pls
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On May 21 2012 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
The point, Zealos, is that whether it was addressed as an insult or not, Acro said your scumreads were bad that game. I am going to presume he is telling the truth, or you would have corrected me.
You cry "but it was my first game douchebag!" before using Acro's first game as the basis for your case.
I never denied that my scumreads were bad that game. That is irrelevant to the fact that he is acting in a similarly scummy way as he did in that game. When I made a point against him, instead of refuting the central argument, he just used an insult to try to discredit me. I also gather that it will be impossible for you to defend yourself for the actions of Acro, and so it would be unfair to lynch you from that alone, but I am still suspicious of you.
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Anyway, anyone agree with my point on Navillus that got buried at the bottom of the last page?
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I saw it and i do agree, That post is scummy. The main thing is that he doesnt want to make a very solid statement, like kinda this not really that. etc.
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Seems very unsure of himself; town should be sure
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There are two things that make me suspicious of Tunkeg.
The first is the timing of Tunkeg's "I'm going to change it up" post. Either town or scum are capable of saying that they want to change their playstyle. If you look at this game, ET also says that he wants to change his play. But he does this BEFORE roles are out.
The second is the way that Tunkeg responds to Acrofales's post against him: HE DOESN'T RESPOND.
You don't like my opening post, and thats ok. ET is comming to my defense, and are voting for you. What is your take on this situation? Do you think ET have any motives for defending me, and if so what are they?
All he does is go "lolol someone coming to my defense" and try to shift attention onto ET "Do you think ET have any motives for defending me".
@marvel
Yea, Navilius's tone is very apologetic and wishywashy. The vote is dumb also.
What do you think of Tunkeg?
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The irony of Navillus' post on the matter being dodgy is that I do agree wbg's post was dodgy in itself. Who is wbg giving advice to here? This is not a newbie game.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2012 05:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Cool.
A few notes I want to share with everyone:
1. Please don't lurk.
2. With that said, please don't spam either; if we have like 50 pages by the end of d1 it'll probably be looking really good for mafia.
3. If you are a blue role: don't breadcrumbyour role; you may choose to breadcrumb your actions, as that is more useful (and much harder to fake for scum). Don't play diffferently simply because you have a power role; scum will notice.
4. DTs: choose players who are unlikely to be framed or shot n1. Choose players who you think will live for a while.
5. Medics/JK: don't bluehunt, just protect the most sensible townies.
6. Vigis: don't be MrZentor (case in point: Game of Thrones)
7. Veterans: please don't do stupid shit to try to ensure you get shot. Chances are far stronger you'll be lynched for being a moron than take a bullet from scum.
Anyway, all general advice and all stuff most of you should know, but read it over anyway.
On May 21 2012 05:03 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 04:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
Yaaaaaay!
Should we get rid of a veteran? should we? I THINK SO :D
##Vote: VisceraEyes I don't support policy lynching but I do agree we should keep an eye on VE because his play can be quite erratic. If he's the focus of attention as either alignment it becomes very difficult to discern what he is. So for now I think we should look elsewhere so we don't have that problem, and let VE decide for himself what he wants to do.
This paragraph says remarkably little. He's talking about VE but what does any of it actually mean? The two bold parts are somewhat contradictory as well.
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Hiro: I can't say it's tingling my spidey senses at the moment.
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as of yet i would be fine with either a Navillus or WBG lynch
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Hi guys, just finished reading through the thread (not that it was much to read) I like how people jumped onto the VE votes like little school girls licking lollipops and followed the teacher. We are how far into day one? and there are only a few pages and not much to go on as in terms of scum hunting. I agree that Navillus looks a little suspicious at the moment. I will be rereading the thread and taking a closer look at what we have so far.
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@Tunkeg - All I have to say on Bugs' opening post is what I'll say on the rest of bugs' posts. If it makes sense and sounds good to you, then don't worry about bugs. The moment he stops making sense, start questioning his motives. He's a good scum player, but if he's scum then he still has to PRETEND to scumhunt. For my part, I'm not interested in lynching Bugs today.
@Nova - I'm not sure what you were referring to when you "challenged" me, but in response to your question, I'm looking at killing one of you or Zealos - I'll let you know for sure after a full reread.
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I don't think I'd agree to a Nova lynch unless something very particular came up. Atm he's playing to his not-very-useful town meta rather than his post-extensively scum meta
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On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill
Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience.
On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.
If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that. I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc. Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"?
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On May 21 2012 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
I fail to see how giving advice as a means to begin the way is in any way scummy. Reason exposes deception.
On May 21 2012 18:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Game thus far have been moving along very slowly. I think I prefer that over the spamfest some games turns into. Unlike those spamfest games, lurking is a viable strat for scum in a this game. That is why I think we got a couple of scum among those who haven't posted yet. So Mattchew, HiroPro, MouldyJeb, Katina, zelbalde and Froggynoddy please make your presence known, so we can find the scums among you. The best ideas often come from the worst minds.
On May 21 2012 07:17 Navillus wrote:
Hey WBG, you're one of 2 vets in this game that I recognize from my last games here like half a year ago, and the other already has 2 votes on him. Also everyone knows that giving advice is scummy so ##Vote: Wherebugsgo Giant-sized body. Goblin-sized brain.
On May 21 2012 17:09 Acid~ wrote:
I'm suspicious of both Acrofales and Nova_Terra.
Acrofales, the fact that you and Mattchew were on opposing teams the last three games is exactly the definition of coincidence, which makes your accusation completely random. Also it seems that the only person you are not suspicious of is Nova, my other candidate for scum.
Nova, why would you think it's a good idea to kill a veteran d1 unless you somehow knew he wasn't on your team? On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote:hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_TerraOn May 21 2012 20:54 Mouldy Jeb wrote:tera~ this game is full of people jumping to conclusions so don't get a bit pissed  On May 21 2012 21:39 Mouldy Jeb wrote:an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final On May 22 2012 00:31 Nova_Terra wrote:
Seems very unsure of himself; town should be sure On May 15 2012 19:47 froggynoddy wrote:
/in if this game starts after end of LIV. Otherwise /out
Suffer the little creatures, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless.
"Throw rocks at 'em Throw spears at 'em Throw Furt at 'em"
##vote Mouldy Jeb
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On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience. Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.
If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that. I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc. Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"?
ooh i forgot about that
Its different because its not all i've done
and because i know im town
and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post
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