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On May 24 2012 04:17 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
In Summary:1. Zealos blatantly contradicts himself as to whether he has scumreads on day 1, not able to keep up a consistent story. He abdicates responsibility for providing scumreads, but appears with them during the night, 2. having formed them in his sleep. 3.He attempts to use meta to attack Acrofales, 4.but totally neglects to check my meta when attacking me.
1. This was a jumble of words. I struggle to see why you still try to use this as a case. 2. Cute, you seem to think things through. 3. It was a game I had played with him, and I remembered the start quite well, hence why I used it. 4. As per 3, I didn't "Check" anyones meta, it was just something I happened to remember perfectly from my first game. Your case almost seemed reasonable apart from the fact your summary does nothing to point me as mafia, instead, it just tries to find flaws in my case against you.
I've made my case, and I will answer you once, because getting into an argument will not help anything.
To your 1) - you jumbled everything up because you were desperately trying to justify your vote on mouldy but you couldn't properly. I was pushing you on your vote, and the fact that you started stumbling over yourself showed you had no conviction in your vote. This heavily ties in to my point that you excused yourself from making any proper scumreads day 1, only to come up with them in the night phase.
To your 3/4 and summary in general. I point out the many flaws in your case against me, because when scum are 'scumhunting' they need to fabricate a case on a townie. Unless scum is bussing, they will have to fabricate motivations that do not exist in order to try to conjure up a case. Your case against me was riddled with lies, inaccuracies, and fallacies which I pointed out - in short a case but not a case. I can't for the life of me remember which game it was, but the veterans might remember - Caller scum did this in some big game and was caught for it.
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On May 24 2012 06:06 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew what do you think of Zealos after marvel's case? I found it pretty convincing myself...I was already a little suspicious of him though so it wasn't going to take much. + Show Spoiler [The Entire Zealos Case] +On May 23 2012 23:18 Zealos wrote:Could I just point out how "Active" Marvel has been all game, without making any real cases himself. He seems very good at pointing out problems, asking questions and what not, but I want to know who you want to kill and whyNot to mention from the very start he distances himself from Acro, instead of trying to make himself look more innocent: I understand the reasoning, but it seems like a free copout for acro's scummy posting. Not to mention he makes a lot of small posts with very little use for them other than to seem active. Show nested quote +no u
My point is that townies should in general strive to be as lucid and clear as possible. Don't give a flying two hoots what you think, if Mattchew just talks in plain text, it will achieve this better than speaking in MTG speak or whatever.
Frankly I'm bored with the sheer quantity of townies who seem to not want to do this. Hence the vote. (ironic) The point is, useful townies don't use the thread as a place to have a conversation, they use it to root out scum. So Marvellosity, you've got 4 bullets in your gun, who dies and why?
Anyone care to translate? ET, you seem to be good at it...
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Since when did you get so aggressive, Hiro? This isn't how I remember you playing.
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On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway.
Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch.
##Vote: Zealos
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On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote:
Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh".
Stop it.
All I get from your case on Tunkeg is that he made a post you didn't like that asked a lot of his questions and his scumread died.
Part 2 (ET dying) is wifom-central so I'm going to ignore that for the moment.
What else makes him scum other than the fact he made a list of questions you don't like?
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Also, because it got lost on the last page:
On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos
Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you?
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On May 24 2012 08:18 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal.Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense.
Ok guys, we're lynching Zealos today. See bold for his excuse on not providing scumreads. See below timestamp for his post where he deferred his scumhunting:
On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.##vote: MouldyJeb Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why? Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting. You don't have a single scumread? No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it.
00:04 KST, otherwise known as 16:04 BST. Asleep my arse.
This guy is fucking scummyscumscum.
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On May 24 2012 08:20 Zealos wrote:
Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see.
Even this is still bullshit. Everything that you posted in your 'cases' on me and zelblade happened BEFORE the post I timestamped above.
Scum.
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And notice my 2nd part, darling.
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On May 24 2012 08:26 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 08:20 Zealos wrote:
Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see. Even this is still bullshit. Everything that you posted in your 'cases' on me and zelblade happened BEFORE the post I timestamped above. Scum. So the one thing I have done that is actually scummy is that I didnt have cases on day1? He's got me guys, looks like I'm gonna die.
The one thing? you're handily forgetting my entire case preceding this.
This is just the red cherry on top of your sweet red scum head.
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On May 24 2012 16:26 Nova_Terra wrote:
In fact, i would prefer a Katina lynch
Bla de bla bla bla. Your filter is now 6 pages long. I do not want to see another post from you that isn't a decent case against who you want to lynch, and it should be more than 2 sentences long.
Gogo.
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Currently I read the VE's case on wbg as: Nitpickypickynitpicky.
You might think he's the strongest lynch but having read the thread and then your filter to check if I'm missing something, it's not even made me think about shoogling my bum off Zealos.
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On May 24 2012 18:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
If no one has realized yet that the voting system and town to scum ratio combined tremendously favors scum, and in a way that forces town to be active, then the game's probably over. We won't be able to kill the scum fast enough because we lose voting influence rapidly. So, it's now or never.
And yet your vote is on Acid. Is he really your strongest scumread?
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On May 24 2012 18:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I already explained why my vote is on Acid.
If the threat isn't real then what's the point of trying to consolidate town? If a player is not willing to even answer a simple question then the easiest way to deal with them is to kill them.
That is not 'he is my strongest scumread'. If we're in Day 2 and your strongest read on someone is based on not answering a question, we are in trouble.
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On May 24 2012 18:48 Acid~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 17:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Is he gone? <peeks around a corner> Anyway if Acid never responds, we kill him. To make that threat more real, let's turn up the heat. ##vote Acid~Nova, do you support a lynch of any of Acid, zealos, or Tunkeg? Fine, I'll respond. I don't think I would lynch Tunkeg today. There's nothing about his play that seems scummy to me. Zealos, that might happen if you could make a real case against him.
As opposed to my fake case you mean?
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I don't know what to do about Katina :/ I almost made some sort of case when I was doing Zealos - before the post I had planned on doing them both at the same time - but couldnt' find convincing enough arguments.
There's also the fact she was very active in Liar for a while, while completely ignoring this game.
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As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh.
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On May 24 2012 19:24 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
As opposed to Zealos who was happy bandwagoning Mouldy Jeb who he believed to be town, because he couldn't be arsed to actually find scum. Bleh. Let me spell it out to you, as you don't seem to understand. In a game where some one has to die, and my current reads are: 13 town looking players 1 scummy but still overall town, also useless in general. Who do you vote for? It's like trying to explain maths to a toodler...
Let me spell it out to you, because you're an idiot.
In a game where one has to die, and each lynch is important.
You decide not to look for scum until after the lynch is over and lynch someone you believe to be a townie instead. As pointed out the 'reads you came up with all happened before you decided to pack it in for the day and be happy with lynching someone you thought was town.
I voted for someone who I thought was scum.
It's like trying to explain mafia to a toddler? No, I do toddlers a disservice. To a fucking stone.
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To anyone else reading: short of someone literally claiming scum in the thread, my vote will remain on Zealos.
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Yep, way to not be able to read and misrepresent what's been said. You're a real star.
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