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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 22 2012 21:13 GMT
#381
lol. Where's your VCA now Bugs? A notoriously (so far) lurky semi-scummy player comes out last minute to vote for MJ. Still wanna be moved solely by analyzing the wagons sir? Yeah?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
May 22 2012 21:14 GMT
#382
EBWOP: This post was ninja'd by just about everything from VE's 5:32 post on (I usually start posts then leave them open as I alt-tab to read stuff I'm referencing and do other stuff) but Mouldy's response is in line with what I was saying.

To VE I haven't looked for the post shift out of NT that you're saying is there, I'm gonna go check for it but I didn't notice anything like that on my first read-through, I will be looking hard at WBG for tomorrow as I thought he was scummish yesterday (irl)
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 22 2012 21:16 GMT
#383
Sure, having my vote on a player indicates willingness to lynch said player. Moving my vote indicates a change in that willingness. Nothing you just said in any way is reason for calling me scum. If anything you've just stated the obvious and then tacked on "therefore WBG scum QED"

Why is nova scum other than "he's scummy scum scum" and "he was posting like a jester"?

What are some reasons nova is scum over, say, Mattchew or Tunkeg or Katina? Or even mold man over here?

What makes mouldy a bad lynch and nova a good one, specifically? If there is one question you'd answer, I'd prefer it be this.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:17 GMT
#384
On May 23 2012 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
But Nova, you've already told me everything I need to know to determine your alignment. In short,

IT'S ALREADY GUARANTEED THAT YOU'RE THE LYNCH FOR TODAY


On May 23 2012 05:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record, Bugs is completely ignoring me when I speak to him and slinging shit at me without substantiating it. This is scummy behavior, and completely out of character for Bugs - after all, he's known as a pretty top notch scum player.

##Unvote: Nova_Terra
##Vote: Mouldy Jeb


I'm okay with this lynch, and the Nova wagon isn't going anywhere.


On May 23 2012 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
In fact,

##Unvote: Mouldy Jeb
##Vote: Nova_Terra


This might happen after all. Keep in mind that as soon as a little pressure was on him from anyone but wherebugsgo, Nova_Terra stopped posting like a jester. This guy is scummy scum. Let's make him hang.

Ahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahah
You're funny, i like that
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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
May 22 2012 21:18 GMT
#385
Ah ninja'd again, first off I don't like that you're saying I'm notoriously lurky VE when the last time I played here was like half a year ago, my gameplay has changed and I'm trying hard to be less flakey, so looking at this game specifically I think I've been pretty active within the time I can post, I probably don't have as many posts as some people but I don't like spammy one or two line posts I like to consolidate my thoughts and put out most of my thoughts at once, it makes the thread easier to read and myself easier to analyze.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 22 2012 21:23 GMT
#386
Nova can you link me to some of your past games, please?

Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:23 GMT
#387
Then theres the fact that i didnt post anything within the time that VE said all of that, nothing i did made him change his mind around. inner turmoil?
then theres this cute WBG and Nova conspiracy theory, bwahah.
I've been criticising WBG all day and said that i would lynch him a bunch, you barely note how we would be scum together
or maybe its just that youre sure hes scum and i am because you say so and therefore we're scum buddies
now hold on a second, you say that hes ignoring you and then slinging shit at you like crazy and then say that he normally is in your face; isnt that exactly what you just said is happening?
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#388
I return.

Funny how Zealos has gone quiet while all the action has been going down.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 22 2012 21:27 GMT
#389
On May 23 2012 06:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, having my vote on a player indicates willingness to lynch said player. Moving my vote indicates a change in that willingness. Nothing you just said in any way is reason for calling me scum. If anything you've just stated the obvious and then tacked on "therefore WBG scum QED"

1)Why is nova scum other than "he's scummy scum scum" and "he was posting like a jester"?

2)What are some reasons nova is scum over, say, Mattchew or Tunkeg or Katina? Or even mold man over here?

3)What makes mouldy a bad lynch and nova a good one, specifically? If there is one question you'd answer, I'd prefer it be this.


1) I've already stated. He was using contradictory logic to point a finger at you yesterday - saying you were scummy for giving advice while giving advice himself. His interaction with Katina was especially scummy in my opinion, not knowing or caring who was voting for him. Like, imagine it from a scum perspective. You're not the leading candidate, and it's minutes from a deadline, are you going to know or care who is voting for you? No man, you're going to know every single person who's on the actual lynch wagon though by my estimation. The fact that he didn't realize that Katina was the very second person to vote for him is suspicious as hell to me, taken with everything else.

2) Mattchew, Tunkeg AND Katina have all given decent reasoning for their suspicions (by my estimation). Mattchew's self-imposed (I'm assuming) restriction, while not the clearest at times, at least serves to let his reads be known. Katina, while not being the most super active, has at least been trying to find out peoples' motivations and provided reasoning for her vote.

3) I'm actually semi-okay with a Mouldy lynch aside from the fact that you prefer it to Nova. Nova's on it too. I don't like that. Aside from that, I have no qualms with a Mouldy lynch. The thing is though, my vote isn't integral for a Mouldy lynch, and if it became a situation where it was, I would switch to Mouldy just to make a lynch happen. But as it stands, I've got a healthy counter-wagon going on one of my scum candidates and I think my vote is more useful over here.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 21:27 GMT
#390
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=325394&user=255225

Look at this link where N_T was mafia. Notice that he spams here.... and what is he doing this game?
...
...
Spam!
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:29 GMT
#391
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328625 newbie mini IX cop
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325394 newbie mini VII mafia
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317174 snmmviii townie
then theres LIV and the one i linked for froggy earlier.
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:29 GMT
#392
On May 23 2012 06:27 Katina wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=325394&user=255225

Look at this link where N_T was mafia. Notice that he spams here.... and what is he doing this game?
...
...
Spam!

is this a joke post or have you really been ignoring the entire thread all game
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2012 21:31 GMT
#393
Katina is in fact playing this game in a vacuum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#394
What the hell my browser is retarded

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325394&user=255225
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#395
On May 23 2012 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 06:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, having my vote on a player indicates willingness to lynch said player. Moving my vote indicates a change in that willingness. Nothing you just said in any way is reason for calling me scum. If anything you've just stated the obvious and then tacked on "therefore WBG scum QED"

1)Why is nova scum other than "he's scummy scum scum" and "he was posting like a jester"?

2)What are some reasons nova is scum over, say, Mattchew or Tunkeg or Katina? Or even mold man over here?

3)What makes mouldy a bad lynch and nova a good one, specifically? If there is one question you'd answer, I'd prefer it be this.


1) I've already stated. He was using contradictory logic to point a finger at you yesterday - saying you were scummy for giving advice while giving advice himself. His interaction with Katina was especially scummy in my opinion, not knowing or caring who was voting for him. Like, imagine it from a scum perspective. You're not the leading candidate, and it's minutes from a deadline, are you going to know or care who is voting for you? No man, you're going to know every single person who's on the actual lynch wagon though by my estimation. The fact that he didn't realize that Katina was the very second person to vote for him is suspicious as hell to me, taken with everything else.

2) Mattchew, Tunkeg AND Katina have all given decent reasoning for their suspicions (by my estimation). Mattchew's self-imposed (I'm assuming) restriction, while not the clearest at times, at least serves to let his reads be known. Katina, while not being the most super active, has at least been trying to find out peoples' motivations and provided reasoning for her vote.

3) I'm actually semi-okay with a Mouldy lynch aside from the fact that you prefer it to Nova. Nova's on it too. I don't like that. Aside from that, I have no qualms with a Mouldy lynch. The thing is though, my vote isn't integral for a Mouldy lynch, and if it became a situation where it was, I would switch to Mouldy just to make a lynch happen. But as it stands, I've got a healthy counter-wagon going on one of my scum candidates and I think my vote is more useful over here.

Your arguments against me are invalid because i already clarified them and because i say so
furthermore yeah as scum you are fully aware of everyone voting for you, lack of care about that would be a town trait
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#396
Hey, looking back at your ever so helpful link Katina, gueess what i find? question asking, pressure without based, and giving of general advice to seem helpful!
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#397
Man i sooooo wish we could have consolidated on Katina
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 22 2012 21:39 GMT
#398
On May 23 2012 06:33 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 23 2012 06:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sure, having my vote on a player indicates willingness to lynch said player. Moving my vote indicates a change in that willingness. Nothing you just said in any way is reason for calling me scum. If anything you've just stated the obvious and then tacked on "therefore WBG scum QED"

1)Why is nova scum other than "he's scummy scum scum" and "he was posting like a jester"?

2)What are some reasons nova is scum over, say, Mattchew or Tunkeg or Katina? Or even mold man over here?

3)What makes mouldy a bad lynch and nova a good one, specifically? If there is one question you'd answer, I'd prefer it be this.


1) I've already stated. He was using contradictory logic to point a finger at you yesterday - saying you were scummy for giving advice while giving advice himself. His interaction with Katina was especially scummy in my opinion, not knowing or caring who was voting for him. Like, imagine it from a scum perspective. You're not the leading candidate, and it's minutes from a deadline, are you going to know or care who is voting for you? No man, you're going to know every single person who's on the actual lynch wagon though by my estimation. The fact that he didn't realize that Katina was the very second person to vote for him is suspicious as hell to me, taken with everything else.

2) Mattchew, Tunkeg AND Katina have all given decent reasoning for their suspicions (by my estimation). Mattchew's self-imposed (I'm assuming) restriction, while not the clearest at times, at least serves to let his reads be known. Katina, while not being the most super active, has at least been trying to find out peoples' motivations and provided reasoning for her vote.

3) I'm actually semi-okay with a Mouldy lynch aside from the fact that you prefer it to Nova. Nova's on it too. I don't like that. Aside from that, I have no qualms with a Mouldy lynch. The thing is though, my vote isn't integral for a Mouldy lynch, and if it became a situation where it was, I would switch to Mouldy just to make a lynch happen. But as it stands, I've got a healthy counter-wagon going on one of my scum candidates and I think my vote is more useful over here.

Your arguments against me are invalid because i already clarified them and because i say so
furthermore yeah as scum you are fully aware of everyone voting for you, lack of care about that would be a town trait


Nah, this is false. Town's #1 objective is to lynch scum. Especially Vanilla town, the only thing they care about is voting for the right person to lynch. As a townie, you would keenly feel every vote on you because the ONLY bit of information you have as a townie is your own alignment - therefor, your very existence as a townie is meaningless if you're the leading lynch candidate. Ask Jeb who he thinks is scum, he can't think of anything but the number of votes on him. I'm willing to bet at this point that he's just drowning townie. He was unable to produce even basic reads when prompted once the wagon really started to pick up steam, but he knew EXACTLY how many votes he had on him.

Scum on the other hand, have objectives. They're pushing an agenda. But most importantly, they're in contact with others. This is the important thing. If they have a team going "Nah dude, no sweat look Jeb has 6 votes. This is in the bag" then scum aren't going to give a SHIT who's voting for them or anything. They're just going to make sure the team's chosen lynch is the one that happens.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2012 21:40 GMT
#399
VE: you said you were happy with a Jeb lynch. Do you believe he's scum?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#400
At this point, not so much. I much prefer a N_T lynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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