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On June 04 2012 15:51 Probulous wrote:
Well MY answer would be that he has been right when he didn't have to be.
He was right about Zealos
He was right about supersoft
He was right about SnB
He was right about VE
But I guess that is more than one thing. Oh and he proposed to me. I'm a sucker for a girl on her knees.
well my goal was to make it seem like I didn't like marv so he would have slightly less chance at being shot, but you know, whateverrrrrrr
On June 05 2012 06:14 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 06:04 Manason wrote:On June 05 2012 05:59 marvellosity wrote:On June 05 2012 05:56 Manason wrote:
I am confused,
can someone please tell me what's going on with Toad and his circle? I am confused, I'm sure you said you were going to make a case on kita but I can't for the life of me find it I started to make a case, but it took to long and I decided to go play Skyrim. 3/3 for people who give up mid-way because there was no case to make. I'm starting to see a trend!
The case was already made on you lol. I think thissummed up things pretty well, and I didn't find your explanation valid. Add the gambit flip and how you didn't even seem concerned with him, I want you to swing.
Look at Maju's posts: who has he called out as suspicious? sTofu, and "zealos over gambit", which doesn't mean much these days as both are scum, and gambit was RBer.
Who does he make a case on? ....No one.
How many posts does he have? A decent amount. That's what I mean by "extremely low content to post ratio". He has almost no interest in scumhunting based on the amount of posts he has that aren't scumhunting.
Papapanda... I'm not sure. I feel like he has been decently trying at times. He hasn't done much lately though, and he hasn't taken that many hardline stances at all. Posting matches one that could be scum, but it's not the most conclusive. The only one is he agreed with a gambit lynch, but it was semi late that he did so.
Manason too, I'm not completely sure. He postured against Zealos and Kita early. If kita also flips scum, then it's strange for him to bus two teammates early. He also was fairly opinionated early in the game. He's had a number of wishy washy ish wifom-y posts, but hrmm. I would say lynch preference is
Kita > Maju > Papa > Panda
Among those 4.
random other suspicious that are still alive
Wiggles, jaj
deadline
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bleh I guess medic wifom'd to probe or something. Or Toad got protection finally lol. Remember we lost our jailer, so we prolly only have 1BP a night.
I derped on jaj22. I'm guessing that was a blue snipe.
##Vote: Kita
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yeah don't spam die die like that, going a little overboard -.-
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Could be my fault since I indicated suspicion towards him, but I was thinking that would've helped mafia WIFOM away from him T_T
Kita > Maju > Papa > Panda
Messed up this part of my deadline post, should have Manason at the end.
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where did wbg say that austin looks scummy?
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Hrmm. Well we should go one lynch at a time anyways; no need to see big grand mafia connections, especially when you never know if a crafty scum player has been hiding long time.
I know I keep on repeating that, but just saying; the intent of scum is to escape notice, so it's possible that one of our entrenched "townies" could just be an especially good scum player. AKA, don't ignore me+others just because it seems like we're town or whatever.
Wiggles, opinion on today's lynch?
Kita,On June 05 2012 06:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Kita do you honestly think kenpachi is scum?
Are you going to continue to push for wiggles tomorrow?
What is your opinion of ET?
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Why should the real medic not claim?
This reminds me of MrZentor's doctor claim in SoaF.
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EBWOP: MrZentor was the actual doc, and no one believed his claim, lynched.
The difference here is that we do have a claimed save, and kita is not a weak player. His wishywashy ness could be explained through general blue behavior.
It is complicating because this is the best fake claim that a scum kita could do, yet TL seems very prone to lynching claimed blues. Like if a blue claims, they are almost always dead lol.
I'll think about this more when I get home tonight.
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On June 05 2012 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 14:52 Probulous wrote:To our real medic DON'T CLAIM! We will convince the doubters, somehow. Kita is red and he is wriggling out of this lynch like I thought he would try to do. He had no other option and so chose the best possible claim he could. His breadcrumb makes 0 sense. MZ, I take it you think my cases against him are shit then? Probulous how much have you played here? I'm not trying to be patronizing, I'm just trying to work some stuff out and it would help to know approximately how long you've been playing.
He has the same experience level as I do.
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Has it been three nights? What was your third check?
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Ah derp on my part.
N2 framer is possible, but less likely than N3 frame.I believe probes claim, and.it's quite likely kita is fake claiming, but there is the small possibility that we are about to be totally fucked.
however, likelihood is that we've got something good.
We lynch kita.
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On June 05 2012 16:07 Hyaach wrote:
ah fk. i just digged myself into a hole.
lmao.
start using excel to play hyaach....
What?
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I need to think this through, but I'm leaning medic needs to counter claim.
Be home in a bit.
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If no counter claim, mass switch to maju.
Any objections?
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He's trying to say that no one else can be medic, logically, and that even if he is fake claiming it is likely scum would already know who medic is, and would've shot them anyways.
I like maju more merely because I'm most sure of him being scum.
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On June 06 2012 03:01 Manason wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 02:58 EchelonTee wrote:
If no counter claim, mass switch to maju.
Any objections? I am very convinced that Kita is mafia and I'd rather not oust the medic. So I do object.
Opinion on maju?
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On June 05 2012 16:15 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 16:07 Hyaach wrote:
ah fk. i just digged myself into a hole.
lmao.
start using excel to play hyaach.... What?
...what?
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oh god I woke up in a panic thinking I missed deadline. phew.
let's get this show in the road 
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On June 06 2012 14:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
My dear fellows, where on earth is our fair mayor?
off in scum town?
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About the whole "there needs to be veterans in scum team" or whatever.
I spam that because it's important to be aware of the possibilty, and not to be complacent, but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. In MTG mafia recently, it was Navilus, Katina, HiroPro, and Zealos. They are competent players sure, but WBG and VE were both town, yet fought at lot under a pretense that balance dictated their opposal. Another example is SoaF, where scum team was myself, gonzaw, Bluelightz, and cccalf, vs. VE and BH. You don't NEED a scum vet; it's just a possibility.
Anyways, if we're talking scum vets, I'm leaning Wiggles at this point. Why is he so hilariously AWOL? Are you busy or something?
It's appearing that the greatest consensus is towards killing Manason. There is no medic counter claim, so I do not want to lynch kita right now. Like someone mentioned, if probe+another dies, then we lynch Kita. If probe doesn't die (or kita dies) then his claim is truer. If Probe dies alone, then it's null. Either way, the path of least risk is to not lynch kita, and his actions are decently explainable at times. He's mostly been wishy washy/not scumhunting that hard, but then again we were all wrong about VE, weren't we?
I want another mason in the circle to claim by tomorrow day, at the latest. I have a sneaking fear that MZ is doing a crazy ass mafia plan with toad. If another mason claims to be part of the circle, then I will no longer have to consider that fear as deeply.
There a million possibilities or WIFOM, blue fake claims, etc etc, but the least risky proposition right now is to leave kita, and lynch elsewhere. Since Manason has claimed scum a few times, let's continue lynching down the line.
##Unvote
##Vote: Manason
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