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Japan10647 Posts

June 19 2012 00:19 GMT

#3128

The manason lynch was awful when there were two better targets in maju and papanda.

Kita claiming medic removed him from the scum suspect list unless something weird happened the night after. At that point if maju and papanda die back to back you've flipped four relatively new scum. Wiggles was next.

The only question mark was the last scum who happened to be marvellosity. Certainly the game was winnable but both the hyaach and manason lynches were really really bad.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 19 2012 00:41 GMT

#3130

yeah I think it's just one of those rereading things. I spent most of my time rereading the thread constantly and that's why my posts were pretty sub par, but I avoided most of the active players while I was alive because I knew there were scum among those lurkerish players like gambit, maju, papanda, hyaach, hassy, etc. I was desperately trying to figure out which ones were the scum and which ones were town. I wish I had more time to analyze players like wiggles, ET, and marv. I took them mostly at face value and you can't do that with good scum players.

Also toward lylo you're dealing with the townies who, all game, have been wrong or haven't been reading properly, so it's not likely they'll start to read any time soon. At that point because reading is imperative it's over unless you have a blue. Kudos to marvellosity for staying alive to that point; the hardest part is killing all the scary townies and getting away with it.

Thanks again to sloosh and greymist for a great hosting job. Sorry for all those inactives you were forced to modkill/replace.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 19 2012 01:34 GMT

#3137

On June 19 2012 10:16 kitaman27 wrote:

Show nested quote +

hahaha

I was just about to post how much trouble I have seperating townie inactives and mafia lurkers, refreshed the thread, and saw this :p

Someone wanna explain what they look for?

what do you mean?

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Japan10647 Posts

June 19 2012 02:27 GMT

#3142

On June 19 2012 10:35 EchelonTee wrote:
how do you tell if a scummy lurker is noob scum or noob town

oh, style of posting I guess.

There's less posts to look at so sometimes it's even easier. That's how it was when I caught gambit/maju/papa. I'm definitely not great at it, but recently I've been focusing on figuring out the lurking/bad townies from the scum and I think I've been getting a bit better.

As for manason the reason I put him further down the list as opposed to outright pushing him was because the scummiest thing he did was say he'd make a case on kita and then he didn't do it. That was literally the only reason he was on my scumlist and honestly, since townies do that all the time, it didn't make me very confident of him. Nonetheless I included him because lots of other people wanted to kill him. I completely ignored Hyaach because I didn't find anything he said to be scummy. He was saying his opinion up front and wasn't really trying to be diplomatic.

Sometimes the stupider something sounds the townier it is for someone to say. I haven't seen anyone truly abuse the ability to blend in as dumb town, so for now whenever I see really odd or illogical plays I mark the player as town unless it's a veteran who knows better. However, even in those cases it's dangerous sometimes.

Lately I've been realizing more and more that regardless of my efforts I'm swayed by popular opinion really really heavily. It's this notion that going with the flow is good for town and that if I'm wrong, it's okay because a bunch of other people would be wrong too. That's a poisonous way of thinking IMO and I've been trying incredibly hard to stop doing that. I first started realizing that a long long time ago and I have yet to kill that feeling, because the ideas get planted in my head without me even realizing they're being planted there. The first time I realized this was possible was when I shot Foolishness over sandroba in PYP:Interesting because I thought other townies had a better read of them than I did. I was wrong and Foolishness flipped town when sandro would've flipped scum.

More recent examples are Liar Game with Sheth and Palmar (VE in that game was not sheeping but I'm not sure how to explain that), this game with VE/kita, Poison with Zephirdd/risk, and MTG with Mouldy and Acid.

EDIT: Oh and DFM with the multitude of townies like bluelightz, me listening to Cephiro about his plan over killing syllo, etc.

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