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Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 31 2012 16:10 wherebugsgo wrote: so if you died and flipped vig you think an upside down question mark would make it apparent that you tried to shoot zealos? That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard hahahahaha So bugs, gonna change your vote? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 31 2012 17:00 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't like lynching VE cause he always flips town whenever he does scummy shit. that's horrible reasoning. Get your ass in gear and give me an alternative, I know you can do better than this. I'm going to bed. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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I already explained why VE isn't a vigi, I really don't feel like quoting myself but I guess that's necessary. On May 31 2012 14:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol VE's not a vigi. Here's how setups like this work, in Annul's harry potter game the entire town essentially claimed and outed the mafia because the mafia had no idea what roles were in the game and accidentally claimed roles that townies had. In order to prevent some sort of imbalanced shit like that happening, mafia are given a list of "safe" claims which townies are guaranteed not to have. This removes the unfair aspect of the harry potter game where the scum had no where to hide once people started claiming. I think our dear host even alluded to this here: I suspect our dear friend VE is simply grabbing one of the "safe" roles the scum have. Please don't fall for it. I have yet to see some actual reasons to kill zealos other than people randomly throwing his name around. We are NOT getting sidetracked. People need to stop trying to divert this lynch. VE is dying today. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Meapak_Ziphh
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And honestly think about what you're proposing. VE can just claim roleblock until the end of time. Alternatively he can claim a mafia hit and the rest of us have to wifom about whether he actually shot or the scum just double stacked. There is no way to put this discussion to rest. VE has to die. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Meapak_Ziphh
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please -_-. you're just doing the same thing as VE. Like him, you cannot systematically go through my case and call it bad. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Your kita case is terrible. If you recall, I tried to make a case on him and realized there wasn't anything there. Now this one may be a bit rougher for you to remember but you actually did the same thing as me and came to the same conclusion. Nothing of course has changed since we both failed at making a case except for the fact that now you're under the gun and desperately need a suitable alternative to yourself. The case is pretty much the most forced thing I've ever read, it's understandable though since you yourself had earlier realized that there was no case to be made. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 31 2012 23:11 marvellosity wrote: To Meapak: regarding the VE and Toad issue. In my head it doesn't add up. What does scum VE gain by casting suspicions and theorising about toad even AFTER he has you pretty much confirming him today? As far as I can see there is no productive outcome from him doing so, people clearly aren't going to be getting suspicious of Toad at this point. In fact the only result of him continuing on about it is that people look at him weirdly and you get to write a story about it. I get that he's been front back, left right, up down with regards to Toad. What I don't get is why he'd do so as scum, why he almost voluntarily posts a target on his back by posting about it. The less power confirmed townies have the better. It's called micro-inequities, you say subtle things that take away from another persons credibility. What a nightmare for scum if toad had suddenly been really active and calling people out, better call into question his judgement or the circumstances surrounding him so people don't listen to him That's the purpose going after him even after he's been confirmed serves. It obviously has to be subtle but it's supposed to have the effect of getting people to ignore what toad says. It doesn't really matter because toad isn't posting a lot but at the start of the day VE got in a couple good shots. And no, I read this question, however I had forgotten it once I finished reading the thread. My apologies. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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On June 01 2012 04:41 Mattchew wrote: Mz can you explain ve's reaction to my claim from a scum perspective? He took your claim at face value like he had to. As scum he can't go and tell the thread you were lying and he wouldn't even know that because you might have been shot by a vigi. I really don't read into his reaction one way or another. What I think is more significant is how he defends S&B the moment you reveal your "trap." | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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On June 01 2012 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: THAT, guys, is the icing on the cake. Not me thinking MZ is scum, but all the lurkers coming in and flocking to VE. Do you guys want to lynch who the LURKERS want to lynch? Really? They're not reading the game...they're not even playing in the real sense. Vote with me, I'm reading. I'm trying. Kill Kitaman or Zealos or Wiggles or take your fucking pick...don't lynch claimed Town Vigilante. It just keeps pilling on... | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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My sincere apologies to the town and VE. I will be redoing my reads tonight, I'll post them whenever I finish them. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Bugs had better know what he's doing. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Are you going to continue to push for wiggles tomorrow? What is your opinion of ET? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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I am not a vet, kita's claim is good in my eyes. All the people who still want to kill him after this are rather silly. Occam's razor has had kita as town for a while now. He's acted super weird I won't deny that, but the fact that so many people can't make a good case on him should really tell us something. And now, after his claim, Occam's razor is even stronger. A lot of my case against VE was creating connections that didn't exist and I'm not going to make that mistake again. I'll just restate, kita's claim is good and we're going to move onto a new target for today. Who that target is will be selected sometime tonight. | ||
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On June 05 2012 14:52 Probulous wrote: To our real medic DON'T CLAIM! We will convince the doubters, somehow. Kita is red and he is wriggling out of this lynch like I thought he would try to do. He had no other option and so chose the best possible claim he could. His breadcrumb makes 0 sense. MZ, I take it you think my cases against him are shit then? Probulous how much have you played here? I'm not trying to be patronizing, I'm just trying to work some stuff out and it would help to know approximately how long you've been playing. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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I just got done with your filter and I don't think you're lying about your role, however I'm not convinced kita is either. I do see kita as probably the best target for a frame. Think about it, WBG, Toad, and I all got confirmed really fast. Wiggles is mister lurker, ET has been flitting around, what better target to frame than kita? Many people have called his play out so he's a great choice to frame. Since it's 1am I'm going to sleep on this so I don't make any decisions rashly, I have no desire to repeat the VE disaster  Also if there is a medic out there then CC ONLY IF YOU CAN SHOW A SOLID BREADCRUMB TO YOUR SAVE AND YOUR NIGHT PROTS the last thing we want is for scum to CC and have kita lynched because the thread doesn't like him and would believe just about any CC that gets posted. | ||
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