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lmao. start using excel to play hyaach.... | ||
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I was not sure how confirmed town they both were too, but somehow it seemed to get ignored and drowned out. | ||
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On June 06 2012 22:59 Toadesstern wrote: I already quoted the post 2 times... Night 2: WBG Night 3: Jaj22 except both are death and there is no breadcrumbs whatsoever in your filter or theirs. very very easy claim and the fact you ignore my same question for past 2 day cycles. | ||
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And if its 3 times today, it does not count. I'm fine with Maju and Manason. Manason moreso tho. | ||
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On June 07 2012 07:57 Probulous wrote: Why does it matter to you? Either you think Toad is scum (in which case give us a reasonable scenario where this is possible) or you are digging for useless information and discrediting Toad for no reason. If you think Toad is town, than tell me why this information is so important to you? I was skeptical about MZ and Toad after MZ pushed a VE lynch and left Toad to generally dismiss everything VE produced in his own defence. I couldn't put my finger to the thing back then but isnt austinmcc's case plausible? That's why i was trying to find out his mason targets for night 2 and 3 but he never told me until today. He said he can produce a confirmation everynight but it never came night 2 and 3 and only came tonight after both are coincidentally dead. If Toad is godfather and choose investigation immune. ? | ||
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On June 06 2012 19:57 Toadesstern wrote: I haven't read those games but yeah if there's only few vets in the game there won't be mafia vets most times and you make it look like there were few vets in those games. If there's 2 or less vets in general it's usually no mafia vet. About 1/3 or 1/4 of vets usually "should be" mafia. If you don't even have 3 or 4 vets in a game a mafia vet would be "imba" because they shoot the other town vet n1 and instantly win the game that way. Just look at WoF and what happened after Rad and I died... 3 fucking nolynches in a row (kind of, a mislynch inbetween because town was furstrated) because noone knew what to do anymore with Rad and myself being dead. It's a bit tricky because WBGs C9++ games tend to be completly true randomized for example and so are other games but most people see to it that it's even vet-vise. So basicly I completly disagree. We NEED a scumvet. There's no way greymist will make a game that is 6 newbies vs Toadesstern, Supersoft, Mr. Wiggles, Forumite, kitaman27, VisceraEyes, (Kenpachi) and all of them are town. Yes I know foru flipped 3rd party but as far as I understood it was town favored 3rd party and we're still missing the mafia favored 3rd party. Especially with WBG replacing in as town as well. ET pointed it out here but you choose to ignore the bold and divert the attention to balance. We don't lynch on balance design, we hunt scum on scummy post. Then you decided to discredit the case and multiple times stated you are town MASON. Why? to reinforce that image into lazy town's mind? No you are not confirm is what I want to say here. On June 06 2012 23:39 Toadesstern wrote: Actually screw everything I said about myself, about austin or about kita. We're NOT lynching kita today. I have the most awesome plans of them all to combine all of our problems. Kita claimed medic and mafia already lost their RB. Here's the plan
Either way we're good.:
Can anyone see drawbacks to that plan? I like it very much atm because we're probably going to maka mafia shoot into people they don't want to shoot or make them doublestack when they don't want to. What's this? Everynight action revolves around you? Did you forgot our Cop claimed? Oh right, if you divert potentially everything on you, our cop will not be protected. In the chance that all 3 of you are mafia. Cop will die. you will shoot another town. or double stacked our cop. and maybe out the last member of your mafia. | ||
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On June 07 2012 08:07 Toadesstern wrote: Whatever. I'm going to mason our claimed DT Probulous (not allowed to use blue lol) and I want Kita to protect him no matter what. Either we're only going to lose one dude or we're losing two unimportant dudes or we're getting mafia with Kita. Is this the post you are refering to? No i think Toad has no idea of his mason's alignment. 3. Hassybaby 6. Hyaach 7. marvellosity 10. austinmcc 12. MajuGarzett 13. MidnightGladius Replaced by Probulous 14. Toadesstern 18. papapanda 22. Mr. Wiggles 26. EchelonTee 27. kitaman27 29. Meapak_Ziphh 30. Kenpachi Look at the list. State 4 suspicious people right now? Has it occur to you MZ could be Godfather? Has it occur to you his influencing Toad? Maju Papanda ? ? That's a very townie looking list. Lynching base on game balance. ?= Wiggles? (base on vet. was skeptical about his alignment but that Maju over Manason post is town) ?= On June 07 2012 08:43 Toadesstern wrote: and don't talk to people who don't read the read. Link them to the 5 times where everything has already been explained and tell them to read the thread. That's how you deal with people not reading. It just makes no sense to talk to those people because nothing they say makes sense due to the lack of information they have. So even if you don't believe me when I say hyaach is mafia the guy has no information about what's going on right now because he chooses to not read which makes him an unqualified "partner" for discussing reads anyways. Not that we should do that right now anyways. UNLESS of course both (austin and Hyaach) are doing a Toad from n1 here. People reading the thread will know what I am talking about. Mafia don't because they don't pay attention LOL Link me the 5 times please? | ||
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You claimed to be shot. Kita claimed to protect you after you claim to be shot. Pretty easy to breadcrumb if both are mafia. What counter-claim would there be? Mafia could be holding back 1kp to make this work. | ||
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It could be 12 or 11 players tomorrow assuming there's only 2 KP from mafias left. 6-7 to lynch. You just need to convince 3 townies. And if i may add, apart from Maju, Me, Hassy, Austin, Kenpenchi and Papapanda(i've never look through his filter). The rest have the ability to post a good case. | ||
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He questions a lot in the beginning but at the wrong targets about the wrong people. All turned out town Push a VE lynch, questionable. After VE flipped town, post to say his main target is Zealos? Why? to shrink responsbility from the VE flip and onto a mate whom you can bus? All game his been trying to buddy up to MZ. Why? gain town cred from the toad-mz mason? On June 02 2012 12:15 kitaman27 wrote: Gambit isn't playing this game. At this point, I'd like him to do a "share my opinion on every player in the game" type post or something, so at least we have something to go by. I couldn't say he was scum or town with any confidence right now. After Wiggles' case and opinion from town reads that Gambit was a good lynch, his still not sold on it. Not willing to sell his buddy out? Post a case on wiggles after that to draw attention and discredit the case? On June 04 2012 01:28 kitaman27 wrote: Well this has been a pretty worthless day three. I'll swap over to Gambit since the last thing we need is a RoL 2.0, but I'd still like to hear thoughts about Wiggles, Hassybaby, sToFu, and Kenpachi. It's going to be incredibly disappointing if gambit was a townie who decided to simply evade the modkill requirements without posting for three cycles. Unfortunately, I have to head out in about a half an hour and may not be back until around seven. Don't mislynch me while I'm gone -_- finally vote Gambit when it looked like a lost cause. To avoid being seen as a last minute sheep vote, he claims he does not want a RoL 2.0 ? Make him appear less suspicious for the last minute vote His post later was about his breadcrumb and a general list of players where he took out the people with the most town read. Stating a fluff that actually make him looks like his posting something but in fact, its not. Most people would agree the the list he came up with meant nothing. On June 06 2012 07:14 kitaman27 wrote: Eliminating myself, Toad, and Meapak we have a pool of 11 players where the remaining four scum players reside. I have also removed Prob and Hassy. While he has not been confirmed 100% as a detective and the alignment check on hassybaby may be masked by a godfather cover, I do not believe they should be considered for lynch today. Additionally, as an anti-scum lyncher has already flipped, I think it is extremely likely that an anti-town lyncher is still in play. That leaves 5 out of 9 anti-town players in the following pool: 6. Hyaach 7. marvellosity 10. austinmcc 12. MajuGarzett 18. papapanda 22. Mr. Wiggles 24. Manason 26. EchelonTee 30. Kenpachi I have read throug each player's filter and removed the players I have some degree of town read on. austinmcc has shown signs that he cares about town and has shown motivation to scum hunt, he has defended zealos in order to push a gambit lynch. It seems unlikely that a mafia player will defend a scumbuddy, while pushing another scumbuddy. Finally, his silly conspiracy theory about a toad, meapak, kita scum group seems town to me. marvellosity shows signs of frustration with inactivity and looks good after pushing the zealos lynch. In addition, he is the only player to have a back and forth conversation with zealos. His recent play has been less convincing, but I'm willing to put him off for later. 6. Hyaach 12. MajuGarzett 18. papapanda 22. Mr. Wiggles 24. Manason 26. EchelonTee 30. Kenpachi I'm strongly considering pusing Kenpachi for the following post: It seems pretty clear that the mafia team has a limited number of players with 20+ games experience based on the flips and identities of confirmed power roles. Pushing this sort of policy as a member of a mafia team of players such as gambit and zealos allow the vets to be at each others throats, while the quieter players sneak by. Furthermore, Kenpachi wants to remind us that he found zealous scummy, without actually pushing a zealos lynch. The last two cycles he has done nothing but taunt me about my lynch, with no consideration that I could be town. He is always a tough read, but he is not a player I want around for endgame. Wiggles I still feel is a good lynch. As I look through his posts, I really strugle to find town tells that show that he has the towns best interest in mind. Every single cycle he has taken a backseat role, only taken the time to comment about irrelevant information, lacking in true contribution. I would like to do a follow-up post to my previous analysis of wiggles, but this took too much time. Please everyone respond to this post. The day is nearly half way over and we have gone absolutely nowhere. Does nobody care about this game? Look at his list, look at Ken's list. They both serve the same meaning. Fluff with nothing of interests to people who do their own reads. It's just there to make it seem they are doing something. Then read his reasoning. Yes Gambit and Zealos has limited games but why would he draw attention away from the fact that that could still be veteran in the mafia team? I also refuse to believe someone of Kitaman27's play is failing so hard at finding scum this game. | ||
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Papapanda has no stance to take. He FoS me and phagg over Zealos to create a distraction. Granted we were all lurking but why us over Zealos when the attention on Zealos was heating up? And we know phagg and zealos flipped out to be. his vig proofing plan is flawed. Why waste a block at night to confirm a vig? just shoot the scummiest person alived. Then he soft-defending wiggles against SS. VE's mess came up and he scream to vote wiggles what Papa does 24 hour later after soft defending wiggles? he spread a little shadow over wiggles but never voted for him but for VE? Why? so he can backtrack if somehow VE crawled himself out of the mess and attention went on wiggles? On June 01 2012 06:43 papapanda wrote: Both you and I have read MZ's cases, as well as other posts, can we agree that his points are valid? However as I was reading it, I was, using your term, on the fence for VE's lynch. What I didn't like was how he responded to the pressure. He claimed vig, one the the toughest role to prove at this stage of the game. Ofcourse it's possible he is vig, and what ticked for me was what he said about if he was the mafia leader, the mafia would try more to save him...(can't find the post, but I'm pretty certain that I read it today). Wifom doesn't work as defenses...(learned that the hard way last game, marvellosity;p). [b]Anyhow, my point is I find VE scummy and people trying to spread the vote are also worth looking at(hi kenpachi). and yet he was trying to spread it just minutes ago. Scum just goes with the flow and often does not have a train of thought. After that it was bandwagons and more rope throwing so he could back track if need be. [B]On June 06 2012 15:21 papapanda wrote: -snipped- Regarding current vote: Consider my vote on kita right now. I like the plan to switch to votes mana if no other medic claim. basically his fine with whoever as long as its not him. | ||
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On June 08 2012 13:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Not to sound like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat as well but I actually like the "wiggles is gf" theory. Guess my alien conspiracy theory was wrong. But I don't see Wiggles as gf right now but Maju's flip will tell us. He pushed Maju before Manason and now is pushing Maju again. | ||
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and i know my case on MZ/Kita is not played out well but Toad refusing to answer me his mason target got me suspicious of his alignment. Note I asked on day 2. I asked on day 3. He answer only on day 4 when both have already died. Then Austinmcc came up with the theory and it looked like it clicked with my suspicions of toad so i went ahead with the theory and pushing it hard. If I was mafia, Not pushing that case would have easily allowed me to survive today where it is lylo. Disregarding my kita/mz case, do you have a scum read on me? | ||
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On June 08 2012 02:06 Hyaach wrote: Before I go to bed, i was initially suspicious of Wiggles for his absence and just popping in at the right time jump on the ship that has just sailed off. But his case on Maju over Manason made me thought different. His town to me right now Papapanda has no stance to take. He FoS me and phagg over Zealos to create a distraction. Granted we were all lurking but why us over Zealos when the attention on Zealos was heating up? And we know phagg and zealos flipped out to be. his vig proofing plan is flawed. Why waste a block at night to confirm a vig? just shoot the scummiest person alived. Then he soft-defending wiggles against SS. VE's mess came up and he scream to vote wiggles what Papa does 24 hour later after soft defending wiggles? he spread a little shadow over wiggles but never voted for him but for VE? Why? so he can backtrack if somehow VE crawled himself out of the mess and attention went on wiggles? and yet he was trying to spread it just minutes ago. Scum just goes with the flow and often does not have a train of thought. After that it was bandwagons and more rope throwing so he could back track if need be. basically his fine with whoever as long as its not him. Papa and Maju. Rather Lynch Papa first. about the last two. I have no idea but I would not cross hassybaby out from the suspect list. People had been urging him to post thus framing him everynight wouldn't seem like a bad thing or he could be GF | ||
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On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote: Mod Messages Player List 1. Mattchew, The earthling was killed night 2 2. Blazinghand as Lard Nar, Leader of the Resisty (Mad Hatter), was killed night 2 3. Hassybaby 4. Zealos as Invader Spleen (Mafia Goon) was modkilled day 2 5. phagga the earthling was modkilled day 2 6. Hyaach 7. marvellosity 8. grush57, The earthling was killed night 2 9. Cwave The earthling was modkilled day 2 10. austinmcc 11. GambitX32as GIR (roleblocker) was lynched day 3! 12. MajuGarzett 13. 14. Toadesstern 15. Supersoft as Ms. Bitters (Jailer) was killed night 2 16. sToFu, The earthling, was modkilled day 3 17. Sinensis, The Earthling, was lynched Day 1 18. papapanda 19. jaj22The Earthling, was killed night 3 20. Ange777, The earthling, was modkilled day 3 21. Wherebugsgo, The earthling, was killed day 3 22. Mr. Wiggles 23. Forumite as Tak (Assassin), was killed night 1 24. Manason, The Earthling, was lynched day 4 25. strongandbig, The earthling was killed night 2 26. EchelonTee 27. kitaman27 28. VisceraEyes as Gaz (Vigilante), was lynched day 2 29. Meapak_Ziphh 30. Kenpachi Replacements 1. 2. 3. 4. Players Remaining: 13/30 Irkens Remaining: 4/6 | ||
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