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On June 07 2012 08:08 Hyaach wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 07:57 Probulous wrote:On June 07 2012 06:41 Hyaach wrote: I would like a third party to flip through Toad's filter because he claim to answer me three times but i can't find it. And if its 3 times today, it does not count.
I'm fine with Maju and Manason. Manason moreso tho. Why does it matter to you? Either you think Toad is scum (in which case give us a reasonable scenario where this is possible) or you are digging for useless information and discrediting Toad for no reason. If you think Toad is town, than tell me why this information is so important to you? I was skeptical about MZ and Toad after MZ pushed a VE lynch and left Toad to generally dismiss everything VE produced in his own defence. I couldn't put my finger to the thing back then but isnt austinmcc's case plausible? That's why i was trying to find out his mason targets for night 2 and 3 but he never told me until today. He said he can produce a confirmation everynight but it never came night 2 and 3 and only came tonight after both are coincidentally dead. If Toad is godfather and choose investigation immune. ? no his case is not plausible as already pointed out by 4 different players. It makes no sense at all and is either mafia driven or paranoia driven. I'm leaning on paranoia like gonzaw in LI when he said every single vet in the game had to be mafia and noone else (LOL) but that's not exactly helping right now.
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On June 07 2012 08:13 Probulous wrote: Toad, as much I would like you to mason me, I think it is a bad idea. The chances are high that I die tonight and I suspect some people in this town may object to you masoning three dead people in a row.
I actually thought about telling people I'm going to mason you, so mafia doublestacks you and I'll ninja some bullshit and in reallity masoned someone else :p
I don't see a problem with you being dead and me not being able to confirm me yet another time because even if I don't confirm me mod-wise I'm confirming myself style-wise because I just made mafia doublestack instead of shooting 2 guys. So even without that confirmation there's no way in hell someone will consider me a mafia lol, especially with voting analysis of this very day. If I however pick some random dude and he ends up being one of the 2 dead guys by chance because mafia don't want to doublestack you people would probably freak out. I doubt someone would be stupid enough to consider voting me instead of people like maju but who knows, there's a lot of new guys around here...
So I really don't mind you being shot and not having myself confirmed if that reduces the kills by 1. I think the chances for doublestacking you or shooting 2 other guys are somewhat 50/50 at this time. If they have a framer AND GF it's probably more likely they shoot other good looking people. I already mentioned one which I should not have ( ) but there's enough good looking people other than you. They could straight up shoot me as well. Noone is going to vote me tomorrow no matter if I confirm myself or not because worst thing would be I'm not mod-confirmed town but instead just 85% confirmed town. I don't mind that although those tin-foil-head guys are screaming to not trust me because of those 15%.... (the numbers are totally out of the blue)
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On June 07 2012 08:20 Hassybaby wrote: Who would you rather have the mason on the Prob? don't even answer that one
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Hyaach is mafia, austin is a paranoid noobie. Don't talk to mafia, don't talk to paranoid people unless they stop being paranoid.
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and don't talk to people who don't read the read. Link them to the 5 times where everything has already been explained and tell them to read the thread. That's how you deal with people not reading.
It just makes no sense to talk to those people because nothing they say makes sense due to the lack of information they have. So even if you don't believe me when I say hyaach is mafia the guy has no information about what's going on right now because he chooses to not read which makes him an unqualified "partner" for discussing reads anyways. Not that we should do that right now anyways.
UNLESS of course both (austin and Hyaach) are doing a Toad from n1 here. People reading the thread will know what I am talking about. Mafia don't because they don't pay attention LOL
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On June 07 2012 08:55 Hyaach wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 08:07 Toadesstern wrote: Whatever. I'm going to mason our claimed DT Probulous (not allowed to use blue lol) and I want Kita to protect him no matter what.
Either we're only going to lose one dude or we're losing two unimportant dudes or we're getting mafia with Kita. Is this the post you are refering to? No i think Toad has no idea of his mason's alignment. 3. Hassybaby 6. Hyaach 7. marvellosity 10. austinmcc 12. MajuGarzett 13. MidnightGladius Replaced by Probulous 14. Toadesstern 18. papapanda 22. Mr. Wiggles 26. EchelonTee 27. kitaman27 29. Meapak_Ziphh 30. Kenpachi Look at the list. State 4 suspicious people right now? Has it occur to you MZ could be Godfather? Has it occur to you his influencing Toad? Maju Papanda ? ? That's a very townie looking list. Lynching base on game balance. ?= Wiggles? (base on vet. was skeptical about his alignment but that Maju over Manason post is town) ?= Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 08:43 Toadesstern wrote: and don't talk to people who don't read the read. Link them to the 5 times where everything has already been explained and tell them to read the thread. That's how you deal with people not reading.
It just makes no sense to talk to those people because nothing they say makes sense due to the lack of information they have. So even if you don't believe me when I say hyaach is mafia the guy has no information about what's going on right now because he chooses to not read which makes him an unqualified "partner" for discussing reads anyways. Not that we should do that right now anyways.
UNLESS of course both (austin and Hyaach) are doing a Toad from n1 here. People reading the thread will know what I am talking about. Mafia don't because they don't pay attention LOL Link me the 5 times please?
the point is that if you think I am town and am being influenced by MZ because you are apparently doubting him you have also to assume that I did not lie about WBG and jaj22 which means that you have also to assume that WBG was influenced by MZ and I can tell you it's the other way around. Both MZ and I are going for the reads WBG had. I won't state 4 suspicious people right now for obvious reasons although I already said to much and broke my own "don't talk to mafias" rule
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On June 07 2012 08:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: dang toad I didn't realize that scum was this scared of you lol.
Also I think you should mason probulous. Honestly even if he dies it doesn't really matter, the benefits of masoning him far outweigh people somehow thinking you're still "unconfirmed."
I really have troubles thinking mafia would oppose me so heavily. I have a scumread on hyaach for something different and the fact that he's trying to make me look bad actually makes him look better although I'm still heavily leaning mafia. If he is mafia he knows I am town and can confirm myself as town in a heartbeat. I really doubt he'd be pushing me like this if he's mafia. That's just odd. Mafia should happily agree on the "Toad is confirmed town" thing and just be happy. That's the reason hyaach is one of the lower mafia reads and I'd rather not lynch into him until I have to because there's only 1 mafia left :p
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I don't believe anyone telling me anything about mafia holding back KP. Never. Ever. That's not going to happen and if it happens it hurts mafia more than town even with town thinking the "shot" guy is confirmed town.
If that's how mafia plays I have no problem with that and I have no problem with mafia holding back KP tonight to make it look like Kita saved someone because they're giving us a free lynch that way.
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I like what MZ said recently! With that being said I'm going to bed and as mentioned I'm going to mason Prob, Kita is going to medic Prob and I'll be posting my spreadsheet 10 secs short of the deadline tomorrow. I feel like dying
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On June 08 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Dear people who think kita is scum (not the ones who think both of us are scum, you guys just need to pull your heads out). Anyway to the people who think kita is scum, consider this. I never stated how I was saved. I could very well have been a vet for all the town knew. Why would kita, as scum, claim to have proted me when he didn't know how I was saved from the shot. If I had been a vet it would have been a fairly simple matter for me to be like "lol no you didn't" and that's the end of the matter. Please think logically for just one second. that's actually a point that I considered as well. I asked you about your role in the QT (and instantly told you to not tell me) because I wanted to know wether you are a vet or if it was something else. The story is still a bit weird though.
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My reads:
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well that's kind of awesome.
##vote Maju
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Ok MZ is confirmed town. I am confirmed town.
Kill that Maju-dude because I say so.
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You are now a sworn brother of the secret circle of the swollen balls. Yes I kicked you in the balls while recruiting you. That's how I make sure I'm always the alpha-nerd along all the nerds.
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Well Toad = mason => toad = town makes sense as well. But yeah kita = blue => mz = town
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On June 08 2012 08:26 Toadesstern wrote: Well Toad = mason => toad = town makes sense as well. But yeah kita = blue => mz = town that was an answer to the tinfoil-hat guy
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On June 08 2012 08:30 marvellosity wrote: No clue Prob. I'm guessing Zim is a baddie... Yeah I guess so... We're considering to enforce a massclaim. As mentioned we're at mylo so why not. Not the roles, just the name of your charectar starting with people I don't like and people I like claim last.
I can't see a drawback to that either.
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You played PYP as well marv, right? You know why I am suggesting it I guess. Thoughts?
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Is ET dead? I have him dead in my sheet but don't remember him being dead oO
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