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On May 10 2012 13:34 gonzaw wrote:
*sigh* please ignore Ceph guys. He's in the minority and we can't do anything about it, so at least let's not let him clog up the thread with this bullshit.
Meapak check your PMs.
Okay, in that case I suppose everyone should ignore you as well, since you are in minority and we can't do anything about that either? I don't clog up the thread any more than you do currently, if you call a sincere answer to EchelonTee bullshit, then that shows that you clearly either
1) Didn't read the post
2) Want to keep making me look worse on purpose
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On May 10 2012 13:37 EchelonTee wrote:
Regardless of whether you're town or scum, you've gotten progressively less reasonable, more antagonistic, and on the whole unpleasant to play with. The fact that you can't even realize how much of an ass you are being just shows how arrogant you've gotten. You say people overreact towards you, and that the town "kings" are ruining this game, while you run around saying "I was right about everything! you guys are all terrible at this game! I hold all the voting power!". My only hope is that this is just a persona you are playing for purposes of the "Liar Game".
I would appriciate if you didn't make statements that hold no truth. I know exactly how I've played, but there are persons that are blowing it out of proportions. Some people overreacted towards me, yes I do think that. Town "kings" are ruining this game, where exactly have I said that? Just because I do not agree it's the way town should play does not mean I think they are ruining the game. You sure shouldn't have any reason to put words in my mouth.
I was right about all the lynches so far, should I have left that unsaid then? I wasn't the only one talking about how "right or wrong" they were about certain flips, and I simply proved how I've been right about the lynches so far, unlike to what some may have thought.
About voting power, I've never had more than 5 votes at any point in the game. It is simply the way you look at the situation. If you assume that everyone else works together and then consider that since I am the one that does not co-operate I hold the final power in the lynch, then that is your mistake. I have no more votes than anyone else, it is the way I use them, or more exactly, the way I make it look how I use them that has given some of you the illusion if me having the final say.
As for some persons, they've complained about it on purpose to make me look worse in-game. I'm still a townie that scum wants to get rid of. I am not playing a certain persona or anything, but I have picked a specific playstyle to start with, and it has evolved in a certain direction due to the way the game has been flowing on. I don't see why you would even think a more experienced player would play forum mafia as their "true self", as they probably wouldn't play with a genuine style face-to-face either.
I want people to play based on the current game instead of trying to metagame, which is why I'm shifting my play here on TL a lot on purpose. Especially as this is only my 4th game, I have not shown very much variance so far. I'm simply going to keep playing differently as long as is needed until the players realize that you cannot define my alignment on the style of my play.
I do not think I have been too unreasonable against most persons (well, I'd say the only one I've possibly crossed the line with is Palmar), but as the theme of certain players has been, it's easy to blame the player that looks bad. And this mindset is further feeding your thoughts of me playing like an ass, which makes it look even worse than what it is.
But this is all just my opinion.
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On May 10 2012 13:50 EchelonTee wrote:
And are you implying that "town" is different from "we"? dafuq?
I do not understand at all how you came into this conclusion, as if you are refering to the town "kings" phrase, that is simply worded in the same way as your own post.
On May 10 2012 13:54 EchelonTee wrote:
Do whatever you want, idgaf. Some life advice; if someone says you are being an asshole, look at yourself first before blaming others. Maybe you're biased to not think you're being an asshole, because of your self-perception.
Like I have said about 3-4 times, based on ONLY THIS CURRENT GAME RIGHT HERE THIS THREAD, you look extremely scummy.
The fact that you "idgaf", and are ready to give me life advice just shows how you are blinded by your current emotions. As proven by you further speculating about me biasing myself to be wonderful.
Also, I do not see why you felt the need to caps that part, as I am well aware that YOU, are basing your scumread on me on this current game only. I am also well aware that most persons consider me scum, I would be surprised if someone genuinely believed I am town and came out with it. As if someone would suspect me to be town, they would be right, but considering the reaction they would get from the mass, I see why no-one would even want to publically claim that at this point.
So why should I try to change my play to "Calm and analytical town", as of this point when I am sure that most of you "couldn't give a fuck?". You'll just keep telling each other to ignore me, so I see no reason to change my current playstyle for the remainder of the game.
I can be wrong about that, but I find it extremely unlikely for most of you to do otherwise.
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On May 10 2012 14:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:looooool sandroba Show nested quote +Original Message From prplhz:
No thank you. You can vote "No" if you want, I'm telling sandroba to vote "Yes" and he allegedly wanted to listen to me and then you two will be voting opposite if that's your plan. I feel kinda bad for prplhz, I wonder what it's like to spend a game allied with scum.
Without further PMs of the chain, I do not see that as sufficient evidence as painting someone scum. I don't remember how many times I would have been honest to someone via PMs so far, but that's not many.
It could be prplhz making false claims, it could be sandroba not voting as he originally told to, or something else.
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On May 10 2012 14:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok so I'm gonna make a quick little rule of thumb I'd like everyone to follow. From here on out whenever cephiro makes a post we're going to ignore it completely.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
The king of the thread.
Please do save us from reading your useless posts.
Sincerely,
The one with all the power of the game.
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For those who are wondering how sandroba is always in the minority.. there is one person that has a perfect mirror voting with sandroba since people have been wanting to lynch him. Surprisingly sandroba is always in the minority, and Meapak with some towncred is in the majority.
What a coincidence no?
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^ That didn't take long. 
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Well sandroba is obviously the remaining yokoya scum. If you have KP, please take a shot at either MZ or Palmar (<--Preferred), and I'll keep you alive if you end up in majority.
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Original post by chaoser:
Let's get wiggles or palmar lynched tonight, can I get from votes from you?
Nice try, too bad I didn't even read since I sent in my votes early and wanted to sleep. :p
Would've agreed with lynching Palmar though.
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^ Smurfing is too hard -_-
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On May 11 2012 22:28 Palmar wrote:
that completely ignores the fact we have another three man team to deal with prplhz.
Although I guess killing off a family might reduce KP or something. I'm still working under the assumption that cephiro is in chaoser's/bc's family.
If I was in the yokoya posse, I would have saved chaoser -_-
Think about it for a moment, is there any reason why I would not have done it as you all consider me as scum already?
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On May 12 2012 03:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I highly encourage you to step up and prove that. I am willing to change my mind if presented with significant evidence that I'm wrong. Want proof of that? I thought Cephiro was town for the first few days.
You're foolishness's protege, amaze me.
This is why there is still hope for you if you are town, young padawan.
Katina, do you also think that I am the last scum in the Yokoya posse?
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On May 12 2012 04:32 Katina wrote:
Katina, do you also think that I am the last scum in the Yokoya posse?
No. sandroba is.[/QUOTE]
Brilliant. I hope you are town and survive the night. In that case we'll have a nice chance of taking the win home.
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EBWOP: Messed up quotes, 1st line = My post, 2nd line = Katina, 3rd line = Me
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sandro, you should vote with the town so that we can eliminate members of the remaining scumteam.
At the moment I'm looking at:
Yokoya: sandro
Scum2: Palmar, MZ, gonzaw/Wiggles
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Lol gonzaw? Like I've shat on you the whole game..
Anyway, if you are going to kill me, I'm going to give 5 votes to sandroba. Because if you keep killing anything else than the other scumteam, you're heading straight for a loss.
And at this point even though it's clear sandroba is the remaining yokoya scum, the town will need his votes if you decide to kill me.
As if I die, the town is down to 5 players, minus possible nightkills = 3-5 players alive for D6 if I am the only one to be lynched.
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If I die: 5 Town - 1 Scum - 3 Scum
If sandro dies: 6 Town - 3 Scum
If we both die: 5 Town - 3 Scum
Add +1 KP on top of that...
If I die: 4 Town - 1 Scum - 3 Scum (1 rival scum is not enough of a threat for them to kill sandro yet)
If sandro dies: 5 Town - 3 Scum
If we both die: 4 Town - 3 Scum
It would be retarded to let sandro die at this point just to lessen the kp, as if he shoots town his own chances will just worsen. = He will effectively try to kill a member of the other scumteam (assuming he has the kp I think he has).
What you fail to realize is that the scumteams are not on the same side. This is not a town vs scum game. This is essentially a Team Town vs Team Scum 1 vs Team Scum 2.
At the moment the non-Yokoya scumteam has the momentum, and soon they cannot be opposed.
Sandroba should be left alive as he has to play for his wincondition, and if townies keep dropping, he will have to work WITH town to have a chance of winning the game. Capiche?
And considering the fact that I am a VT, none of you listen to me, I think I am playing for my wincondition better if my votes save sandro, a possible KP + votes to work together with.
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On May 13 2012 16:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Obviously everyone should be able to see why we're following this plan today. Honestly if I see any opposition to this plan it'll make me seriously question your alignment.
Yeah, obviously we should follow a plan where everything is based on the assumption that I am scum. Now when I'm not, you're screwed (unless you're scum.)
I would not be surprised to the slightest to see you flip red.
Anyone that doesn't understand why sandroba should be kept alive regardless of being the last remaining yokoya scum is either scum for trying to kill him, or then a really stupid townie that is being deceived.
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Oh poor gonzaw, you couldn't be more wrong.
If I have to choose between me and sandro dying, it shall be me. Even though I am town, it is more beneficial for him to stay alive than me.
What you refuse to realize this that the other scumteam is so close to reaching half of the voting power that they don't really care whoever dies as long as it's not them. At the moment they'd preferably want town dead, as town currently possesses the highest risk for them, so they won't mind me dying at all.
If you kill me, there is no possibility of us being 6-2-0 at night. If you kill sandro, I still find that impossible, as I am sure that sandro is the last remainder of yokoya scumteam.
Your theory of us both dying is based on your misguided thoughts of me being scum. This is where you go wrong. I will certainly give sandro all 5 of my votes, unless there are some townies that want to co-operate with me.
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prplhz, you're doing the right thing in thinking for yourself.
If no-one else gets any alarm bells ringing with MZ & Gonzaw trying to rule the whole thread for themselves and kill anyone opposing them.... then I don't know what fairyland you are living in.
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