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On May 10 2012 03:13 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
There is really no plan that we can follow today that allows us to guarantee the people we want to kill are in the minority. Again, I think the best way is to random and not tell anyone how you're voting. Obviously this opens the possiblity of stacking, which is what I believe has been the case last 2 days to save sandroba, but the chances of MZ, chaoser, cephiro and sandroba all ending up on the same side AND in minority are extremely slim.
Wasn't BC also saying that any round A plans are stupid and can't guarantee anything? He was mafia. Anything to toss the doubt around eh?
How is that remotely tossing doubt around. Do you have a fleshed out plan on how to proceed?
You've been tunneling me all game, the only reason you've gotten by this long is foolishness seemed to think you're town.
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Meapak's sudden change in attitude towards me is confusing as it makes no sense from him being scum perspective, unless he's trolling or pulling some insane strategy, there was no reason to back down as his idea already had some traction. The simple explanation is that he's town.
We're obviously going to kill chaoser today.
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On May 09 2012 23:51 Palmar wrote:
It's probably not wiggles or prplhz because MZ would not bus two of his teammates.
That argument is obviously invalid now that it's very hard for me to make a case which would make MZ scum.
prplhz still looks very towny because of his interactions with syllogism early in the game. I keep coming back to the fact that Radfield voted for Cephiro early in the game. This is the annoying thing about replacements, he/you are getting away with no responsibility at all from that exchange.
I'm re-reading the entire thing to form a new opinion on the game.
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We're killing chaoser today, that's not the question.
Anyone who votes chaoser will be considered autoscum for the rest of the game.
@Katina: you never answered my question about sandroba. Do you think he's scum?
I kind of don't mind dying, this game is much less fun now that I don't have syllo to talk to. If that's what it takes for you derps to pull your heads out of your asses and realize what's going on, then sure, don't vote me.
As I've already explained, MZ's change of stance basically confirms him town, no scum would ever commit to a case on a townie and then back off, that only draws suspicion their way. I still stand by the notion prplhz is confirmed town.
chaoser, sandroba and cephiro are scum. I'm actually backing off the idea that gonzaw could be one, I re-read most of yours filtes and he seems very townie. Katina still looks terrible, of course she looks even worse since to myself I'm confirmed town, but when I flip drill her for why the hell she did what she's doing. She's also been on the wrong side of sandroba's voting plenty of times.
The last scum is either ET or Wiggles, after re-reading. sloosh is asking perfectly valid questions, and my initial town read on Radfield means a lot, even if that vote on cephiro was stupid as shit, I don't think radfield was paying too much attention, but he did sound like town early on.
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I'll be giving my votes to sloosh and mz. 2 for sloosh, 3 for mz, unless MZ has a plan, or something.
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cause chaoser is scum, I'm not.
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that completely ignores the fact we have another three man team to deal with prplhz.
Although I guess killing off a family might reduce KP or something. I'm still working under the assumption that cephiro is in chaoser's/bc's family.
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I just came home, voted opposed to prplhz, talk to you tomorrow.
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MZ is the most likely player in the thread to be town, and while I agree with him I'm perfectly fine with this fairyland.
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shut up katina, you're useless.
@prplhz, it's completely irrelevant, as long as the people I say are scum are being killed before me. It actually kinda suits me to be under suspicion, means less chance I get shot, I should probably thank katina for that once you derps pull your faces together and read her filter and we kill her.
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seriously, why the fuck would this stupid asshole start posting dumb stuff about my circle leaking information then refusing to back it up, dump 5 votes on confirmed scum chaoser and finish it off with saving sandroba again. That shit is straight up playing against win condition.
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Cephiro flipping town changes everything, I've been basing other reads of that, so no, everyone can be scum right now. ET and Wiggles could both be scum, sandroba can now be the last member from BC's family which leaves us with a completely undiscovered family so every connection is completely irrelevant.
I'll be sure to post shit before daybreak, need to re-read everything.
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It depends.
I'm still cutting down on possibilities, rethinking the entire thing.
I've basically read every filter of the living players again, and some of the stuff said by other people. From towniest to scummiest atm:
Palmar
Mz
prplhz
sloosh
Gonzaw
ET
Mr. Wiggles
Katina
Sandroba
And yeah I'm fine with people controlling my vote, but I'd like for meapak to be in charge of it.
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@Meapak: you've basically been going after sandroba/prplhz throughout the game. Do you think syllo and I were wrong when we decided that it seemed very towny of prplhz to not understand the voting thing and allow syllo to basically control his actions on day 1? You actually wrote an analysis on prplhz at one point. Do you still think he's scum?
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It seems very unlikely sloosh is scum based on the fact that radfield very vocally supported me and syllogism early in the game. in addition, he also voiced support for foolishness's early case against chaoser which turns out was correct. he was basically backing townies and taking a stance against mafia.
He roleclaimed to me on day 1, quite early.
I don't think he's scum.
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Gonzaw giving up so much power to townies who are working together makes absolutely no sense from scum perspective.
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Whatever, how am I meant to vote?
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EPT
