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chaoser
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A) Having a smaller number players in the majority is more advantageous than having a larger number. This should be self-evident, but the smaller the majority, the better chance town has of keeping townies alive and lynching mafia. Foolishless laid it out quite well earlier. how is it more advantageous again? if people are in risk of being lynched/killed, they're more likely to talk and so it's easier to find mafia...how is more people in round 2 bad??? | ||
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chaoser
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If you have a system in place to make it so that round 2 proceeds in an orderly manner then everything works out perfectly. I sent this to WBG already but I'll post it here as well. for round two, it's based on whoever has the lowest points will be lynched right? so I was thinking of basing it on a gradient system. Most scummy, no points. We then have the rest pass points in a system following the player order. so lets say it's like 5 people in the majority and 1 person in the minority. that's 25 points. lets say we think a is mafia. so the players are a, b, c, d, e, f we think f is townie so he's in minority cause we need one. we move onto round 2. b gives all his points to c, c gives all his points to d, d gives to e, e gives to b. If we all circle then a will have zero points. even if mafia was trying to save a, the two teams members would have to give 6 points total to save him. Because of the circle system, there's no way a can make back the deficient with his 5 points for both his teammates; one of his teammates will be adjacent to someone without 5 votes. That person is also mafia then. f will be giving his votes, spread as evenly as possible, into the crowd of b, c, d, e. If things look wrong then f is suspicious. WBG suggested to me that we do it so that everyone only cycles 4 votes and they give their one vote to whomever they want so that accountability would be an element and I agree. There's no way a would be able to get out of this situation unless his teammates out themselves. | ||
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I was hoping to push a katina lynch today but I'm willing to settle on a sandro lynch. Townie sandro makes plans. He loves plans, especially trying to make semi-game breaking ones. I figured out of all people, he would be most excited about how to most effectively use the two round mechanic to help town. On to the cycle: Prplhz Cephiro Sandroba Viscera Eyes Mr Wiggles Meapak_Ziphh Radfield Echelon Tee Liquid`Sheth Chaoser I'm going to give 4 of my votes to Prplhz. I hope the rest of you join the cycle as well. | ||
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On May 01 2012 13:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Wait, I want to be walked through why "we're" doing a circle-jerk here. I need to know why people think that it's a good idea, and I need to know what they hope to accomplish with it. I've been reading the thread, so please don't ask me to go read it again. I can assure you, I'm reading it as you read this. I'm preparing a post on who of the available lynches I do not wish to continue playing with and why. I hope everyone, regardless of how they intend to spend their votes, will do the same. Time is short, and I want to be informed. You are clearly NOT reading the game if you don't understand why the cycle system is the best way to handle round 2. I already posted about how it works and the ramifications of using it. It allows for accountability and also responsibility for ones votes. | ||
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chaoser
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On May 01 2012 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean, it looks good with 1 person in the minority - it fails to expand on how to proceed with a minority of like 8 people. All you say on the matter is "See, I told you" which doesn't explain anything chaoser. As far as I'm concerned, with 8 people in the minority, the cycle isn't viable. Am I wrong? I thought about it and we can try to do a double cycle. I'm not 100% sure if it'll work out since I haven't done all the math for it but basically all the people in the minority follow a cycle as well. So Ace give to Prp and palmar gives to cephiro and so on. But instead of only 4 points they give all 5. This would require a lot of freedom being given up though and knowing the other players, I doubt they'll agree... | ||
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On May 02 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway, I have a sneaking suspicion that there will be some sort of reentry into the game for some, so assuming Sand is scum and you guys kill us both, if it's a town-related power, you should bring me back. I have reads, but I'm holding them hostage until after I flip. Bring me back, and we'll kill all the scums. They're gooooooooood too. On May 01 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway, right now I'd lynch into wherebugsgo, chaoser, syllogism. That's my story. I'll provide reasoning if any of these players are in the majority in Phase B. to quote Ace: ![[image loading]](http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/biggums.png) How does that even work... On May 02 2012 01:49 VisceraEyes wrote: It doesn't matter Sheth - I'm going to be voted off today because I was scumhunting and scum are in power. It's standard operating procedure. Isn't this just giving up? On May 01 2012 15:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually - don't answer that. It doesn't even matter. I'm giving my votes to Radfield, Sheth, prplhz, Cephiro and MrWiggles. Do whatever the piss you want with that. I'm fine with a Sandroba lynch. On May 02 2012 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote: My reads are all very weak because I'm basing them on what I perceive to be what is the best for town, which in this game I'm not sure I even know what the best course of action for town is going to be. That being said, my scumreads are: Ace, wherebugsgo, Meapak | | chaoser, Katina, EchelonTee Don't expect reasoning. It's true, all of my votes are on Sandroba. I feel like he's town and scum are pushing easy mislynches. I apologize to everyone for my apparent lack of concern for this game, but I've earnestly been playing and trying to find scum regardless of what you may perceive in the thread. But several peoples' attitudes this game (Ace and bugs come to mind) have made this game completely not fun for me to play any longer. ???? | ||
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To: wherebugsgo [ Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: hey Date: 5/2/12 09:59 i gave my last vote to motbob is great.meapak. sorry for the massf pms haha, i'm just sending messages as i go along | ||
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On May 04 2012 10:15 Cephiro wrote: Flipped a coin and sent in my vote. Syllo & chaoser please reply to my PMs. I just did | ||
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Cephiro: 11 - (chaoser 4, Sheth 4, Radfield 2, Meapak 1) <--- By far the most, now think for a moment how many scum were likely in the minority during D1. Woah dude...you're totally misrepresenting this. I don't know about the others but I PMed you MY reason for giving you 4 votes and it was because I was under the impression we were doing the cycle plan and you were the next name in line and wasn't sandro. It in no way means you're townie because you got the most votes. And for you to make this argument in the first place after I had already told you why my 4 votes are on you is scummy as fuck. | ||
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On April 30 2012 15:36 EchelonTee wrote: @Sandroba: Last time you were town in a PM game you broke the hell out of it; if I don't see similar efforts then it's tunnel city. On May 02 2012 08:10 EchelonTee wrote: RE: Sandroba He hasn't been been his plan-happy self from Space Station Mafia even a little bit, and from what people have been saying about him through PMs, he hasn't been disinterested and apathetic. The only other game I have played with him, TL Mafia L, he was pretty lurky as scum, so this lines up. I was waiting for him to respond to how accusations/post reads of his own (as WBG said he would be doing), but it's been a while now. I would be fine with him as a secondary lynch, but with VE dumping votes on him I don't see how he will die today. If his busy-ness due to Brazillian parties or whatever is genuine, he now has a chance to step up his play. On May 04 2012 16:54 EchelonTee wrote: @chaoser: my opinion of sandroba - voting trends suggest he's town, and in thread he hasn't been significantly more lurky than others, while also hasn't been disruptive. while prplhz has had plenty of time to catch up by now, it's clear sandroba has only had time to be here or there and honestly should've replaced out like Radfield did. will be obvious as hell if he's scum as time goes on, so not at the top of my concern list. I'm going to hold off on my votes until it's clear how we will get done what we want to get done. You go from saying you'd be all over sandro if he wasn't active to being only ok with his lynch as a secondary lynch to giving him more time...???? [/QUOTE] | ||
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On May 05 2012 04:30 Palmar wrote: @sheth, just sheep whatever I'm doing, and atm I'm doing whatever syllo is doing, so you should sheep him. btw, your reads that don't say BC and Ceph are scum are wrong. sheth says he already gave his 5 votes to ceph in the beginning of round b. | ||
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On May 05 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote: btw, you were the first guy in the thread to use the term "pro town", that makes you 100% scum (look it up if you don't trust me). ??? what does that even mean? how does that make him 100% scum? | ||
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From: wherebugsgo [ 5458 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: hey Date: 5/5/12 10:40 can you put votes on ET? Like all 5 | ||
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