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I can turn it round back at you with the same argument.
On May 09 2012 09:55 PaqMan wrote:
Look at layabout with a scum point of view and his entire filter is incriminating.
He's contradicting himself everywhere. He's pushing other peoples reads instead of making his own, even when asked. He doesn't make & push his own reads. He isn't actively hunting scum. He's so preoccupied with defending himself. He puts way more effort into writing quarter-page posts instead of hunting scum. He isn't contributing to town. If you look at the bigger picture, everything he's done has been pro-scum.
Nova contradicts himself, when he pushes blubb he doesn't even push him, he didn't push his read on mem, he isn't actively hunting scum. He doesn't even put effort into writing any sort of meaningful post instead of hunting scum. He isn't contributing to town.
I told you why Nova is my strongest read over layabout:
On May 09 2012 08:55 marvellosity wrote:
I see the possibility that layabout is just a frustrated townie who has been goaded into defending himself too much.
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Yes, for example the much rehashed katina argument, and frustrated at the state of the game.
At the risk of repeating myself, Nova is my strongest read, layabout also has a good chance of flipping scum - but much like your Ottoxlol argument on Nova, my gut tells me layabout has a higher chance of being townie than nova.
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On May 09 2012 12:31 l10f wrote:
marvellosity!
He's pretty much attacked every "easy" targets including BM, papa, me, N_T, (a little bit) blubb, and johnny. Protected Kenpachi and Katina, and he gets very defensive even at a one line poke at the side. Including all these quotes would make my post unnecessarily big, but I'm pretty confident on marv being scum.
Just not letting this one slide. I attacked BM for saying 'he was busy' and 'he'd put more time in later' - an excuse he used as scum in LIII. Papa? I called a couple of his garbage posts garbage. You I called out for having made 2 posts. Supposed to leave lurkers alone? Nova_Terra - bothered to read my case on him? jdub - "town MVP" from LIII, and someone I took the time to actually point out the contradictions - easy target? When did I protect Kenpachi? Saying Katina's posting style is odd is now protecting her...kk. Is this it?
To the bold: oh I know - including all these quotes would show you're talking out of your arse. If you're going to make a case, please make it, don't just make up a little unsubstantiated story.
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On May 09 2012 12:34 l10f wrote:
Also, I'm reading this thread often, I just don't post if I don't have anything to add to the discussion. I'm not really good at picking out many scum, but I think I'm pretty good at weighing other people's cases and using them to deduce who the scum is, so I just read all the cases and vote for the person I think is the most scummy. Neither N_T or blubb gave me that feeling last day, so I voted for neither. Again, I don't feel N_T is scum so I'm holding my vote for now. If we don't get a better candidate I'm gonna go with my gut feeling and vote marv.
Also here you completely forgo mentioning layabout. Apparently you have nothing to say on one of the main lynch candidates.
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Shit, that sucks with the iPhone :<
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It's my terrible excuse for having an old baddie phone instead of a shiny new phone.
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Well, we seem to have, out of 12 players, 6 lurkers by my count. Amidst our NT/layabout discussions, they're getting a free ride. Have any particularly roused your suspicions?
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On May 10 2012 01:13 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 20:27 marvellosity wrote:On May 09 2012 12:34 l10f wrote:
Also, I'm reading this thread often, I just don't post if I don't have anything to add to the discussion. I'm not really good at picking out many scum, but I think I'm pretty good at weighing other people's cases and using them to deduce who the scum is, so I just read all the cases and vote for the person I think is the most scummy. Neither N_T or blubb gave me that feeling last day, so I voted for neither. Again, I don't feel N_T is scum so I'm holding my vote for now. If we don't get a better candidate I'm gonna go with my gut feeling and vote marv. Also here you completely forgo mentioning layabout. Apparently you have nothing to say on one of the main lynch candidates. Good catch, I didn't mention layabout because I already said I had doubts about his being mafia on day 2. I guess I should have clarified that my view on him didn't change. Now do you have anything else to day except nitpicking at my post?
If by 'nitpicking' you mean 'pointing out you don't have a case', then no, no I do not.
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I have a chess match this evening (yeah I'm pretty cool folks), but afterwards I'm going to see if I can find something in the lurkers, as since we're talking about it my interest has piqued in it.
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I come home from my (disastrous) chess match and lots of the lurkers have come out to play. Gonna have to re-read the past few pages a couple of times to work out what the deuce is going on.
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On May 10 2012 06:40 Mementoss wrote:
Its sad how little town reads I have of the remaining 12 people.
Who are you favouring for the lynch after the activity in the last few pages?
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On May 10 2012 06:48 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 06:44 marvellosity wrote:On May 10 2012 06:40 Mementoss wrote:
Its sad how little town reads I have of the remaining 12 people. Who are you favouring for the lynch after the activity in the last few pages? NT still. Layabout a close second. Only other person I think is suspicious that is not a total lurker is possibly paqman. I have null reads on a lot of the lurkers I don't know which one would be best. Sinesis or Froggy probably. Im going out to the pub now. Will look into it when I get back. NT still seems scummy as hell as does layabout. And all my current town reads are voting him which is usually a good sign. Gah not sure what to do. Will re-assess later.
At the moment I have serious eyes on grush. I'd love to provide some sort of filter based analysis, but there is nothing. He seems to be living off his "I voted for katina and unvoted her immediately, and I spent two lines questioning sinani, when realistically this means nothing as they got mod-killed" mantra.
Beyond that I see a lot of "lol you're scum!" posts in various guises. And one-liners that literally say nothing. I can't see anything pro-town in his filter.
You scum grush? Or do you actually have a real case to make on somebody? One quote for giggles, as this is about your level of contribution:
On May 09 2012 04:40 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 04:12 layabout wrote:On May 09 2012 04:04 johnnywup wrote:
Personally, I think I'm a bad lynch. But that's probably because I'm the one dying. marv's post on me is true, I'm usually more active than this. That's for a number of reasons I don't think are really relevant to the game. laya had a "sudo-FoS" on me, but I agree the non-commital-ness isn't settling. It could be looking for a weak townie (which I will admit I am this game) to lynch. But it could be me looking legitimately scummy. I can see both perspectives. But since a wagon is somewhat forming I'd like to ask you what you gain if I flip scum or town. If I flip scum, you have a dead scum, but no info regarding the other scum-members. If I flip town, you get nothing. Best case scenario, you kill a scum. Worst case scenario, you kill a vanilla townie. Killing a VT at this stage in the game isn't too bad so if push comes to shove and you're lynching me, go ahead. Town won't lose that much. But the thing is, you lose a lynch to a townie and scum gets another 2 kills. If my death confirms other suspicions I'd lynch myself. But as of now it doesn't. Not to mention I have no scum motivations for anything I've done, which albeit is little.
I don't think you have any other reason to blame me as scum other than "unwillingness to post reads or post cases or be active". Which is all inherent in inactivity. I haven't been playing to my ability and I apologize.
Bleh this is just a train of thoughts :/ If you are town then i am leaving. I am sick of playing with people that refuse to put in the effort. Why you aren't you scum? Don't you like easy lynches?
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Where is everyone? I'm still confident in Nova_Terra flipping scum, not quite as much layabout anymore, whose posting looks quite reasonable. I get the feeling that layabout couldn't do anything at this stage to dissuade Paqman from his read. Nova's case on a dopey/misguided townie has not dissuaded me that he is scum at all.
Meanwhile on grush, first note this:
On May 10 2012 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
Beyond that I see a lot of "lol you're scum!" posts in various guises. And one-liners that literally say nothing. I can't see anything pro-town in his filter.
You scum grush? Or do you actually have a real case to make on somebody?
Since then:
On May 10 2012 09:59 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 08:53 layabout wrote:
and with yet another typo i bid you goodnight!
##vote grush57 Gl with that. Geez all the scummy players are voting for me :'( (Though nova went papapanda lol?)
On May 10 2012 10:03 grush57 wrote:
But yeah layabout is scum
##Vote: Layabout
In light of the last quote, I decided to check on grush's posting history re: layabout. We go from this:
On May 05 2012 05:50 grush57 wrote:
I don't think we should lynch katina or layabout or whoever posted the last couple pages with actual discussion.
to:
On May 09 2012 04:40 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2012 04:12 layabout wrote:On May 09 2012 04:04 johnnywup wrote:
Personally, I think I'm a bad lynch. But that's probably because I'm the one dying. marv's post on me is true, I'm usually more active than this. That's for a number of reasons I don't think are really relevant to the game. laya had a "sudo-FoS" on me, but I agree the non-commital-ness isn't settling. It could be looking for a weak townie (which I will admit I am this game) to lynch. But it could be me looking legitimately scummy. I can see both perspectives. But since a wagon is somewhat forming I'd like to ask you what you gain if I flip scum or town. If I flip scum, you have a dead scum, but no info regarding the other scum-members. If I flip town, you get nothing. Best case scenario, you kill a scum. Worst case scenario, you kill a vanilla townie. Killing a VT at this stage in the game isn't too bad so if push comes to shove and you're lynching me, go ahead. Town won't lose that much. But the thing is, you lose a lynch to a townie and scum gets another 2 kills. If my death confirms other suspicions I'd lynch myself. But as of now it doesn't. Not to mention I have no scum motivations for anything I've done, which albeit is little.
I don't think you have any other reason to blame me as scum other than "unwillingness to post reads or post cases or be active". Which is all inherent in inactivity. I haven't been playing to my ability and I apologize.
Bleh this is just a train of thoughts :/ If you are town then i am leaving. I am sick of playing with people that refuse to put in the effort. Why you aren't you scum? Don't you like easy lynches?
with nothing in between. A little later we might get some 'justification' (I use the word loosely)
On May 10 2012 05:21 grush57 wrote:
HAHAHAHAH well froggynoddy and layabout are confirmed scum, they just both went on my case as it was a coincidence, even though both cases suck. GL getting the town to lynch with you.
grush is crusading against layabout with nothing to back it up. There's no nothing to back anything up ever in his filter really.
grush57 is scum.
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On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote. As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today.
So do you think layabout is scum or not?
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On May 11 2012 04:06 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote. As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today. So do you think layabout is scum or not? Yep.
For what reasons? I couldn't find any in your filter other than that he made a case on you.
Other than that - why do you then say "might just have to go to Nova vote"? what does that mean?
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Answer my questions, grush.
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Can't you read like 3 posts up?
On May 11 2012 04:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:06 grush57 wrote:On May 11 2012 04:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2012 03:57 grush57 wrote:On May 11 2012 03:56 grush57 wrote:
I told you guys all the scum are going for me.
However regarding layabout, he pulled this "intelligent" posting last day to save his ass, however it is very convincing, might just have to go to Nova vote. As in intelligent posting last day, as he is doing today. So do you think layabout is scum or not? Yep. For what reasons? I couldn't find any in your filter other than that he made a case on you. Other than that - why do you then say "might just have to go to Nova vote"? what does that mean?
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On May 11 2012 04:23 grush57 wrote:
Okay first layabout, only been gone over a million times, always siding with the scums and deflecting pressure off of them, contradicting, being scummy, voting for me with a shitty case filled with quotes of me one lining that doesn't suggest anything. Plus I actually have a chance of being lynched(I gaurantee atleast 1 of the scum are voting for me atm) and it would be disgraceful for another town flip. The scum are going for me because it is the best chance because I don't defend myself and only do one liners so it will be an easy lynch. Why isn't layabout making a case against Nova instead of me who was just lurking?(I started posting a lot once he made the case)
For question 2, I said that because Layabout is a pretty good scum, getting caught doing sooo many scummy things but is so convincing proving his innocence that even I almost fell for the trap and went for Nova. However, layabout is a better scum than Nova, so It would be better to get Layabout now.(However Nova just be a bad townie like me, however I seriously doubt it, more sure of Layabout being scum)
I dislike everything I've bolded. You admit you don't bother defending yourself, you admit you only do one-liners. Is layabout duty-bound to do a case on the other main lynch candidate?
And worst of all, you're only posting more because someone called you out! Did you not have the urge to do anything to contribute to town before that then? Or just happy doing fuck-all until someone calls you out for it?
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On May 11 2012 04:37 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:32 Nova_Terra wrote:
If it comes down to it, i would be willing to switch my vote to grush to ensure a majority Gee thanks, even you should know im town.
Why are you town?
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On May 11 2012 04:38 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 04:31 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2012 04:23 grush57 wrote:
Okay first layabout, only been gone over a million times, always siding with the scums and deflecting pressure off of them, contradicting, being scummy, voting for me with a shitty case filled with quotes of me one lining that doesn't suggest anything. Plus I actually have a chance of being lynched(I gaurantee atleast 1 of the scum are voting for me atm) and it would be disgraceful for another town flip. The scum are going for me because it is the best chance because I don't defend myself and only do one liners so it will be an easy lynch. Why isn't layabout making a case against Nova instead of me who was just lurking?(I started posting a lot once he made the case)
For question 2, I said that because Layabout is a pretty good scum, getting caught doing sooo many scummy things but is so convincing proving his innocence that even I almost fell for the trap and went for Nova. However, layabout is a better scum than Nova, so It would be better to get Layabout now.(However Nova just be a bad townie like me, however I seriously doubt it, more sure of Layabout being scum) I dislike everything I've bolded. You admit you don't bother defending yourself, you admit you only do one-liners. Is layabout duty-bound to do a case on the other main lynch candidate? And worst of all, you're only posting more because someone called you out! Did you not have the urge to do anything to contribute to town before that then? Or just happy doing fuck-all until someone calls you out for it? I had no reason to post until I got called out. Whenever I post I'm just an easy target for the scum. Plus I was out doing things.
This is just enraging. The reason to post is to hunt scum. Not sit around doing jack shit. Why do you even sign up to play?
Where is everyone else?! Lynch is so close.
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