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On May 05 2012 05:49 layabout wrote:
Look how few votes the candidate have
Look how weak the cases are
Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote
See how unlikely we are to hit mafia
Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray
Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.
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On May 05 2012 05:55 blubbdavid wrote:
I have a suspicion:
What if BM is scum, but doesn't want to play/ doesn't have time, so he sacrifices himself for the other scum?
What are you talking about?
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Question already answered papanda, try reading thread
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Where's the contradiction? Looks the scummiest != solid scumread.
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On May 05 2012 06:38 layabout wrote:
@marvellosity, they are essentially the same thing.
Since "scummy" means that you think they "look like scum" the "scummiest playe"r must be the player that you "think looks the most like scum" and a solid scumread is a player that you think is scum.
No, if i have 3 peanuts and a hazelnut, the hazelnut may be the sweetest but it is still not a sweet.
Fuck that was a terrible analogy
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On May 05 2012 06:50 Bill Murray wrote:Oh, I have a wagon on me? Great. I haven't been able to read this game personal life issues + the other I'm in I'd like to be allowed a day to properly scumhunt, if I am the leading wagon.
It's always 'real life issues' and 'you'll do something later' but you never actually do
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On May 05 2012 06:53 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:44 Mementoss wrote:On May 05 2012 06:42 grush57 wrote:
Yes but he said he has no [i][solid/i] scum reads. He was just the most scummiest person. As town do you not have an obligation to vote for who you think is the scummiest person Not like that, his most scummiest read, but it was a weak one.
Hey now! I can speak for myself and I did so with a supercool analogy.
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Also - DoYouHas obviously nailed Katina. Pretty nice.
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On May 05 2012 13:06 papapanda wrote:Yeah, mafia is going to hit SlOosh real hard, as he is 2/2, calling out both sinani and katina. I believe the lynching of BM was orchestrated by the red. The plan for red might have been to target veterans who are slightly inactive. As we can see, Katina passively pushed for lynching of BM. Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. Keeping this is mind, I would like to bring up marvellosity. 1. His first few post was to bring Palmer into attention. No, he didn't vote for him, but just bringing him up and possibly started a bandwagon is good enough. 2. He gives his read on NT, saying he "looks the scummiest" but then votes for BM(yes, I voted BM too, I will explain my change of heart if it isn't clear enough-_-), claiming same reason as layabout. His willingness to switch sides so fast is a little scummy. 3. He defends Katina by basically saying she has odd posting style. By association, this also is a little suspicious and him adding on saying that DoYouHas nailed it actually made it sound even worst for me. I would like to conclude by saying that this was pieced together AFTER I assumed he was red. I would like to ask others to help me analyse marvellosity from the point of view of blue. Basically: FoS on marvellosityJust to humour you 1) seems like a good thing to me 2) switch sides? I voted for one person and also explained. ... ? 3) by association? ok. Is that it?
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EBWOP: ugh, formatting, everything below FoS is obviously me
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On May 05 2012 15:12 DoYouHas wrote:
There is no question in my mind that Palmar should be the next one on the chopping block. It is like he is trolling the town, waiting to see just how much he can get away with before we lynch him. His posts are a joke, he has been lurking in spite of being called out numerous times, and he tops it all off with a ninja vote onto a townie bandwagon. Unless something drastic changes, I want Palmar dead tomorrow.
I'm down with this, but I also want to look at layabout as he seems to have a few people poking him.
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Sup l10f.
On May 03 2012 09:06 l10f wrote:Hey guys, I'm town this game ^____________^ Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:39 Katina wrote:
Mr. Blazinghand I say this once and once only. I'm not mafia. Point your Blazinghand at someone who actually deserves it. Who do you think actually deserves it then? Not many people have posted yet, not too many people to blame. You've just stood out among the few~ Doesn't mean you're mafia, every discussion helps though!
Let's kinda point some fingers... but not call someone scummy at the same time. Let's discuss things, yay!
On May 05 2012 13:00 l10f wrote:
Sorry guys, it was last day of class and I was very busy!
Grush suspected both Katina and sinani, and DoYouHas had a strong case on Katina as well.
Layabout defending Katina and convinced the town to vote for BM instead. I suspect him of being scum. The remaining two scums are probably also in the BM bandwagon near the middle.
Fluffy apology. Summary summary summary. Fingerpointing followed by some nice unprovable speculation about the BM lynch.
Anything concrete to say?
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On May 06 2012 03:51 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 03:33 slOosh wrote:
Eiii, provide your reasoning why posting / discussion is bad at night. Discussion about players at night is what I don't like. It feels like it's a time where the ball is in scum's court, and giving them more information with which to decide who's best to kill from town. I'd rather we be the ones to choose who dies after a day of discussion instead of letting scum have that chance. Not to mention it can be helpful for blue hunting-- if someone isn't too active during the day and then becomes a good deal more interested in discussing players and trying to root out scum during the night or whatever, then maaaaybe they have a power role of some sort? I just don't think it's a good idea, so I try to avoid doing it.
So effectively you're happy with spending 1/3 time we have not hunting scum?
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Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.
But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?
P.S. Question for you and all of you
1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?
Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case
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On May 06 2012 07:33 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.
But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?
P.S. Question for you and all of you
1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?
Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case Let me ask you a question back. 1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player? if yes, proceed to 2 2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1? Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him. Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie? These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you. This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why?
There are moves to fuck with you (a la Risen) and then there is saying one thing and doing the other (as with layabout this case). Imo these two scenarios are not the same.
Re f5-ed the thread to see BH's comment - fuck you, sweetheart.
To your final question - I don't know. This is why I've prodded l10f not so long ago. Sinensis and Eiii are not far behind on who I'd like to hear a lot more from (sinensis for general quietness, Eiii because for his own reasons doesn't like talking at night, so I want him to talk more during the day).
while I'm here, Nova hasn't provided any further commentary on who he finds scummy. Personally I get where he's coming from in not wanting to push something when he hasn't got anything solid, but having stated he had reads it'd be pretty nice to hear them.
Summary: nope, no bigly strong scumread at the moment. wanna hear more from people i've not heard much from, because at the moment i only have anti-scum reads (layabout, grush)
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On May 06 2012 08:32 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:On May 06 2012 07:33 Mementoss wrote:On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.
But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?
P.S. Question for you and all of you
1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?
Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case Let me ask you a question back. 1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player? if yes, proceed to 2 2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1? Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him. Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie? These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you. This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why? There are moves to fuck with you (a la Risen) and then there is saying one thing and doing the other (as with layabout this case). Imo these two scenarios are not the same. Re f5-ed the thread to see BH's comment - fuck you, sweetheart. To your final question - I don't know. This is why I've prodded l10f not so long ago. Sinensis and Eiii are not far behind on who I'd like to hear a lot more from (sinensis for general quietness, Eiii because for his own reasons doesn't like talking at night, so I want him to talk more during the day). while I'm here, Nova hasn't provided any further commentary on who he finds scummy. Personally I get where he's coming from in not wanting to push something when he hasn't got anything solid, but having stated he had reads it'd be pretty nice to hear them. Summary: nope, no bigly strong scumread at the moment. wanna hear more from people i've not heard much from, because at the moment i only have anti-scum reads (layabout, grush) Did you miss my thing on mementoss?
Eh, apparently so. Possibly I am a tool. will check your filter :x
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On May 06 2012 08:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 08:32 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 06 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:On May 06 2012 07:33 Mementoss wrote:On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.
But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?
P.S. Question for you and all of you
1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?
Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case Let me ask you a question back. 1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player? if yes, proceed to 2 2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1? Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him. Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie? These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you. This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why? There are moves to fuck with you (a la Risen) and then there is saying one thing and doing the other (as with layabout this case). Imo these two scenarios are not the same. Re f5-ed the thread to see BH's comment - fuck you, sweetheart. To your final question - I don't know. This is why I've prodded l10f not so long ago. Sinensis and Eiii are not far behind on who I'd like to hear a lot more from (sinensis for general quietness, Eiii because for his own reasons doesn't like talking at night, so I want him to talk more during the day). while I'm here, Nova hasn't provided any further commentary on who he finds scummy. Personally I get where he's coming from in not wanting to push something when he hasn't got anything solid, but having stated he had reads it'd be pretty nice to hear them. Summary: nope, no bigly strong scumread at the moment. wanna hear more from people i've not heard much from, because at the moment i only have anti-scum reads (layabout, grush) Did you miss my thing on mementoss? Eh, apparently so. Possibly I am a tool. will check your filter :x
Eh no, I remember reading the case and not thinking much of it sorry :/ especially as he's since made a case against me/layabout. Pretty much my bad.
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On May 07 2012 01:08 ghost_403 wrote:
In addition to that, he pushed a case on l10f based on two posts. Seriously? He's not here, that doesn't make him scum.
Gold star to JDub for being the first person to call me out for not posting here in two or three days.
So I put pressure on someone who barely posted and I get put on the naughty step.
jdub does the same to you and he gets a gold star.
kk ghost.
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