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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 20:46 GMT
#467
SA if i didn't push you then i must have concluded ________?
+ Show Spoiler [The Answer] +
that you are not very scummy or that you are town
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 20:49 GMT
#469
Look how few votes the candidate have

Look how weak the cases are

Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote

See how unlikely we are to hit mafia

Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 20:52 GMT
#472
grush57,

why did you arrive at this late hour agree with me that we should lynch BM and then place your vote on sinani who currently has no votes?

we need to consolidate out votes.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 21:09 GMT
#494
Nova, i think it illustrates how pissed we should all be that 10/26 players in the game didn't feel like it was worth voting before now and that a number of them are likely to be modkilled
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 21:11 GMT
#496
@papa
BM has also posted in another game since his last post here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187&user=54241
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=54241&currentpage=4
so we know he has been on the TL mafia sub-forum and chosen to not post.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 21:38 GMT
#508
@marvellosity, they are essentially the same thing.

Since "scummy" means that you think they "look like scum" the "scummiest playe"r must be the player that you "think looks the most like scum" and a solid scumread is a player that you think is scum.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 21:41 GMT
#510
kenpachi, haven't you been policy lynched before?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12322601
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 21:55 GMT
#533
5 minutes what are the votes?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 21:57 GMT
#538
how come kurumi knew your votes becfore you cast them?

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On May 05 2012 06:44 Kurumi wrote:
Day 1

Katina -2
DoYouHas
slOosh

Nova_Terra 5
Mementoss
Kenpachi
Blazinghand
slOosh
Bill Murray
Mementoss 2
Eiii
Nova_Terra

blubbdavid: 0

Blazinghand
papapanda


Katina: 0
Blazinghand
grush57

grush57: 2
Sinensis
PaqMan
froggynoddy

Sinensis: 1
ghost_403

Palmar: 0


BillMurray 10
PaqMan
layabout
johnnywup
grush57
marvellosity
SomethingAwesome
papapanda
Palmar
layabout
BlackRaven
blubbdavid



l10f might not be in here, he will be saved because he pmed me 9he has finals)
Day 1 ends at 22:00 GMT (+00:00), ~15 minutes from this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SK.Testie


On May 05 2012 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:

##unvote
##vote: Nova_Terra


On May 05 2012 06:51 slOosh wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Nova_Terra


On May 05 2012 06:51 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote: nova_terra


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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#547
On May 05 2012 06:57 layabout wrote:
how come kurumi knew your votes before you cast them?

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 06:44 Kurumi wrote:
Day 1

Katina -2
DoYouHas
slOosh

Nova_Terra 5
Mementoss
Kenpachi
Blazinghand
slOosh
Bill Murray
Mementoss 2
Eiii
Nova_Terra

blubbdavid: 0

Blazinghand
papapanda


Katina: 0
Blazinghand
grush57

grush57: 2
Sinensis
PaqMan
froggynoddy

Sinensis: 1
ghost_403

Palmar: 0


BillMurray 10
PaqMan
layabout
johnnywup
grush57
marvellosity
SomethingAwesome
papapanda
Palmar
layabout
BlackRaven
blubbdavid



l10f might not be in here, he will be saved because he pmed me 9he has finals)
Day 1 ends at 22:00 GMT (+00:00), ~15 minutes from this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SK.Testie


On May 05 2012 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:

##unvote
##vote: Nova_Terra


On May 05 2012 06:51 slOosh wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Nova_Terra


On May 05 2012 06:51 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote: nova_terra



well this is embarrassing...
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#555
On May 05 2012 07:04 Bill Murray wrote:
well, layabout hopping on the lynch makes me really suspect him
he would normally leave me around if he's town
of my wagon, i would like you all to lynch layabout

I am sick of leaving you around it has caused nothing but trouble
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#559
Whoot!
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 22:11 GMT
#566
Somebody work out how many mislynches we have!
I think gonzaw posted a programme but i am not sure where.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 04 2012 22:41 GMT
#583
On May 05 2012 07:38 blubbdavid wrote:
food of chain
manlots
speedlots
zealots
.
.
.
chargelots
I will overthink the case of grush, Layabout is a better target anyway.

why?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 15:52 GMT
#629
On May 05 2012 11:17 PaqMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:
Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

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On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

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On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

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On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

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On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what


and yet....
On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game




Just curious, but what was the point of that post layabout? Nobody was discussing her so it seemed kind of random for you to make that analysis.




On May 05 2012 05:15 slOosh wrote:
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On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:
Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.

I do not think we should lynch katina.

Do other people think that this is BS?
On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.

(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)

##Vote Layabout


//Dirk

Why is SA's post BS? And where does katina make posts indicative of intelligence and how does it show a town alignment?

discussion of katina:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591170
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591786
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591832
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14592117

My post doesn't say why i thought she was town in fact i just wanted to say that her posts made sense and i didn't want to kill somebody that was making sense when there were so many players that weren't making sense or even playing the game.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 15:55 GMT
#630
we should kill Palmar tomorrow
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 06 2012 00:23 GMT
#686
Can't stay it's real late.

But:

How is " i think that a player is intelligent i don't think we should lynch them" a hard defence?

Does giving evidence as to why you think they are intelligent when asked and then saying that you felt something they did something scummy constitute a hard defence?

Why did layabout react to 2 votes on layabout when grush was in the lead with 5 votes with hours left and 13-ish players were yet to vote?

@Mementoss i thought we should lynch Palmar over "any other lurker" because he showed basically no interest in the lynch at all. Palmar is lazy as scum but when he town he usually bothers to do ... "stuff".
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 06 2012 18:00 GMT
#734
disclaimer: May contain repition of earlier points because some people cannot or choose not to read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14611146
ghost that post was in responses to a question, i already said that in this post

I pushed a policy lynch on BM because when you have nothing to go on in the thread and very little time left you either no-lynch or kill a lurker. Both of these moves are last resorts that you should not set out to do. At the start of the day you should not be pushing either a no-lynch or a policy lynch but when the day is fruitless, they become valid options. I have already explained why i wanted to kill him specifically. That is all there was to to it.

Regarding this
BH is criticising a "hard defense of Katina" which i have already adressed.
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On May 06 2012 09:23 layabout wrote:
@Mementoss i thought we should lynch Palmar over "any other lurker" because he showed basically no interest in the lynch at all. Palmar is lazy as scum but when he town he usually bothers to do ... "stuff".



This is actually the reason I shot Palmar-- he wasn't acting like the typical active town Palmar. But why doesn't layabout write this right away? It seems to me that a TOWN layabout would try to explain himself before daybreak... after all, he'd be worried about being shot, right?

See, this is what happened: layabout wanted to set up for a Palmar push D2. Palmar was acting weird for a town Palmar, and Layabout wanted to capitalize that by getting him lynched D2 based on Meta. This is scummy. In fact, this is scummy enough that we should lynch layabout.

BH is also criticising me for saying that we should kill the player that he decided to shoot.

BH is calling me scummy for saying that we should kill a scummy player. Not only is this contrived, but he is calling me scum for doing what we should all be doing as town.

On May 06 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote:
I think it is condemning, scum over-reacts to things like that (at least i think, ive never actually played scum). Of course laya didn't know kat would be modkilled, which is why it is condemning. If we didn't know kat's flip, it wouldn't be bad for either of them. It's just a townie pushing his reads on another person he thinks is townie, right? Since kat flipped, no. I don't know, the flip makes me think laya is more scummy.

At first i dismissed this point.
Who is more likely to know if one of the mafia team is about to be modkilled?
Members of the mafia team who can communicate privately and should know if their team mate is there (no)
Members of town who can only see the thread and will have no idea who is watching the thread (yes)

I don't see how me not knowing that katina would be modkilled implicates me in any way.

As to me over-reacting, i do this because i have been mislynched on day 1 twice by 5 or 6 players when town had votes spread all over the place. In game of thrones mafia and in bastard mafia. It is in the interest's of every player to defend themselves and doing so is not scummy.

have i missed anything?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 06 2012 18:18 GMT
#739
On May 07 2012 03:10 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I'm beginnging to like you Lay. Now find me scum! =)

What do you think about blubb? I think he is fishy...

here:
On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:
I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f.
Well, jdup has made a good post regarding layabout's behaviour

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On May 06 2012 08:46 johnnywup wrote:
I think it is condemning, scum over-reacts to things like that (at least i think, ive never actually played scum). Of course laya didn't know kat would be modkilled, which is why it is condemning. If we didn't know kat's flip, it wouldn't be bad for either of them. It's just a townie pushing his reads on another person he thinks is townie, right? Since kat flipped, no. I don't know, the flip makes me think laya is more scummy.

It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled.

This is a strange thing to assert when as a townie you do not know who scum are and if they thought that Katina was coming back or not.

Also when he votes for me he emphasises that it is to get me to answer his question.
On May 06 2012 20:32 blubbdavid wrote:
layabout is scum. The question is: why would scum push BM?
layabout was pushing BM so hard it was not even funny.

Ok: layabaout, why were you so fucking desperate in pushing BM?
till then, ##vote layabout

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On May 06 2012 19:51 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote:
I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f.


you wanna mess

+ Show Spoiler +

He begins by saying that i am scum. If he believes this then surely that should be the reason for his vote. By saying that he wants a response he gives himself a way to back out of pushing me. If he truly believes that i am scum then he would have no reason to do this.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 06 2012 18:50 GMT
#746
On May 07 2012 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
BH is also criticising me for saying that we should kill the player that he decided to shoot.


False. I am criticizing you for saying we should kill Palmar, and not posting a case against him until 9 hours, after daybreak. Did you actually read my case?

Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:00 layabout wrote:
have i missed anything?


Yes, my criticism is based on HOW you did what you did, not what you did. Is it really typical layabout play to make a 1-sentence accusation halfway through the night then not follow up with a case until after daybreak? Cause I had some respect for your town play...

Yesterday, between the hours of (UK time) 5pm and 1 am i was otherwise engaged.+ Show Spoiler +
the FA cup final was on
. I posted that "we should kill Palmar" when i heard a knock at the door.

Now try think of a way to write that without it sounding lame.
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