Oh, come on! What the hell was he doing? MrZentor just walked into that, he spent D2 clarifying a few reads of his, then waiting to die.

Whateve, good riddance

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 26 2012 23:34 GMT

#606

Snarfs, what is your opinion on Sbrubbles? Have you played with him before?

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April 27 2012 09:58 GMT

#642

On April 27 2012 17:32 phagga wrote:
Concerning Sbrubbles: He has never been a man with a huge filter, see Aperture as example. The fact that he tries to come up with his own original points and the way he pushes VE I'm leaning town on him.

I hear people saying that sbrubbles is Town and that he´s usually posting this little, but I still want to see more from him. He´s the only lurker right now.

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April 27 2012 10:48 GMT

#646

Radfield, why do you assume so much about the setup? Yes, there are most likely no jailors, roleblockers or SKs, we´d have known by now, but so far there´s nothing talking against the presence of another cop, a vigilante and/or masons. You said yourself that vigilantes shouldn´t shoot N1 so that we will know if there is an SK, and as for Masons, there´s no reason they should have claimed allready. D1 makes them targets, D2 only MrZentor called them out to claim, even though his defence wouldn´t have helped one bit by the presence of Masons, and claiming during this night is suicide. We have no idea if there are any masons. If there are, I would expect them to claim tomorrow, no sooner. With only 1 scumKP and so few lynches, it makes sense for them to wait until there are a bit fewer people in the game. The same with the cop, if he doesn´t expect to die to a lynch or a scumhit, then waiting to present a second check is better than claiming prematurely.

There are most likely no jailors, SKs or roleblockers, but that´s all we know right now.

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April 27 2012 11:50 GMT

#648

On April 27 2012 19:57 Radfield wrote:
Actually, we know how the setup is derived: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

If you accept that there is no mafia roleblocker, that leaves only 3 possible setups. If you further accept that there is no Serial Killer, that only leaves 1 possible setup. Agreed?

Where´s the Miller in C9++? Where´s the Innocent Child in this one? We know that the C9++ setup isn´t used exactly as written, so using it to "prove" the only possible setup is fooling ourselves. We are fairly sure there are is no jailors, SKs or roleblockers, that´s it, everything beyond that is just guesswork.

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April 28 2012 08:47 GMT

#704

Snarfs, good shot!

Sbrubbles, good to see you back.
First question on your Marv-case, why would VE have to vote no-lynch in order to save Marv? There wasn´t much threat to Marv, the case hadn+t built up yet, VE probably didn´t need to go in and save him.

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April 28 2012 19:10 GMT

#726

There´s a ton of things connecting VE to Marv. VE making a Radfield+Marv connection N2, right before shooting Radfield, effectively kills his own argument, distances him from Marv, while still making it look like VE is scumhunting and Marv is Town (because a strong case on him just got refuted). However, this is based on what VE did. Sbrubbles, did Marv do anything that connects him to VE, or do you base it only on what the flipped scum did?

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 28 2012 19:16 GMT

#727

Did I miss Sbrubbles?

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 28 2012 20:58 GMT

#730

On April 29 2012 05:34 prplhz wrote:
phagga could be scum.

What made you think of phagga?

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April 28 2012 23:39 GMT

#739

On April 29 2012 08:29 prplhz wrote:
@Forumite You here mate?

I´m here. I´m trying to make sense of this but too tired/confused. I was so close to throwing in with Sbrubbles. When I first saw the case it made perfect sense, the distancing, the Radfield+Marv case, where Rad got shot, making the case fall apart, so Marv looks town, while VE gets towncred for scumhunting. Right now I don´t know. Marv made an OMGUS on Sbrubbles, but it wasn´t an OMGUS, he´s so damn calm about it even when half the town are preparing to lynch him.

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April 29 2012 00:16 GMT

#743

On April 29 2012 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Totally. Lets lynch somebody else. How about strongandbig?

He´s been absent during D3, and I want to hear what he has to say about all the flips. He posts less that Sbrubbles, that´s bad. He´s kind of like Marv during D1, but that doesn´t really make him scummy. For some reason I haven´t thought so much about him.

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April 29 2012 00:44 GMT

#746

On April 29 2012 09:17 prplhz wrote:
Isn't "not having thought so much about him" a reason for thinking hard about him?

Tomorrow, it's in the middle of the night.

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April 29 2012 15:30 GMT

#750

Fuck it, I`m going with my first strong gut feeling. I'm agreeing with Sbrubbles case on Marv. I think what happened at the end of the night was that VE intentionally made a case on Rad+Marv in order to make both him and Marv look good when Radfield died. On the flipside, Marv is talking about VE a lot.

##Vote marvellosity

I´m going to be out of contact for a few hours, should be back about 2 hours before the lynch. I hope it´s enough time to consolidate our votes and avoid a no-lynch.

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 29 2012 20:02 GMT

#790

Back

prplhz, why strongandbig? What makes you think he´s scummy? I read the same filter and I don´t see it.

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 29 2012 20:13 GMT

#798

On April 30 2012 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
At the very least this is amusing

These kinds of posts are not helping you.

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 29 2012 20:43 GMT

#805

On April 30 2012 05:32 prplhz wrote:
Yea, I didn't like that. Two days into the game he makes a case on a guy that Radfield said "reeks of scum", I don't really buy that.

Sorry, not following what you are refering to here.

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Sweden3280 Posts

April 29 2012 21:00 GMT

#809

Okay, we have an hour left before the deadline. Almost everyone have voted, and right now noone is getting lynched.

What do we do?

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April 29 2012 21:04 GMT

#811

On April 30 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
If you're not gonna vote for Sbrubbles, vote me to avoid a no-lynch. duh

I thought you weren´t making a case on Sbrubbles?

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April 29 2012 21:23 GMT

#824

On April 30 2012 06:16 prplhz wrote:
@Snarfs, Forumite, Sbrubbles, Can't I convince you guys to lynch somebody else? I think it's pretty obvious that marvellosity is town, look at how he is encouraging people to vote for him for the well being of town rofl, why the hell would a scum do that? He would just be happy if we got a no lynch and he wouldn't sacrifice himself like this.

Giving up is actually a scumtell, they stop defending themselves to avoid giving town any more info for later. Then again, town can do that to if they are just too tired to make the effort, like MrZentor.

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April 29 2012 21:37 GMT

#828

On April 30 2012 06:28 prplhz wrote:
No, they stop giving info and marvellosity seems very genuine with the information he actually gave us. Telling people to lynch you isn't a scum tell, it's really much more of a town tell. I remember Kenpachi doing the same thing in Steamship Liquidia when scrubs were piling onto him.

Why would a scum say "Please lynch me" when he doesn't even have majority? He would say "Don't lynch me" and then he might live another day, he wouldn't give a shit about town well being. The whole point of lynching him right now is town well being because he is town and because people suspect him for some reason. Really, lets just into a lurker that Snarfs decides or something like that. He can flip a coin or whatever, we're a lot better off doing that than lynching marvellosity.

Don't compare anyone to MrZentor please.

It depends on what people do when you tell them to lynch you.