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On April 16 2012 08:13 BlazingJitsu wrote: It's been a while! looking forwards to another game together. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hEstq.png) -Blazinghand Just a thought - you probably don't need to sign your post if you're including the funky pictures :p | ||
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On April 18 2012 11:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: There we are. Sorry bout that. Good start  | ||
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On April 20 2012 19:00 iGrok wrote: Are you shitting a unicorn? Shit, I was at work when I read this, you bastard :x | ||
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On April 21 2012 09:02 Mattchew wrote: so my teammates are + Show Spoiler +? Mattchew, I thought we were gonna have a long, happy, and romp-filled relationship, then you make me click on multiple spoilers. | ||
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On April 21 2012 09:58 Mementoss wrote: I agree with johnnywup I dont think this is productive or the time to talk about this hypothetical stuff. For all we know there is no vigs or trackers. Ya never know, could be 3 jailkeepers. You can't assume which roles are in the game. What? The vigilante-godfather-miller-weirdthing is the only strange mechanic in the game. Before things get properly rolling is absolutely the right time to talk about its implications. | ||
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On April 21 2012 10:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually, a vigi only really clears himself by shooting a GOON. Hitting a GF will result in WIFOM about what happened to his shot (GFs are night-kill immune). Right, so scum could claim their shot was blocked on some random townie and WIFOM it up. Gotcha. So, are there in fact any GOOD circumstances to make a vig shot? | ||
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That said, my one-liners didn't come across overly helpful. I've just read through the last 7 pages of this thread I've missed and I'm still trying to wrap my head around the vigi business. My one-liners were one-liners because I haven't had time to grasp the issue at hand yet. Anyway, I'm going to play around in notepad with this vig business so I can actually take a stance and get back to you in the next few hours. | ||
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From reading a few filters, it seems that a couple of people have arrived at the same conclusion as I am about to - whatever merits gonzaw's plan has, it's kinda pointless if it isn't gonna be agreed on by everyone, and by this stage it's clear it's not going to be. I am glad of all the conversation that's been had on the matter, because it means going forwards people will be able to critically analyse flips and night kills, so if nothing else that's a positive to marker. One thing I didn't like about the whole gonzaw - VE exchange was VE's pretty bad breakdown of gonzaw's plan. It seemed to amount to this - if JK doesn't agree with the plan, then the plan is bad. But... the whole idea of the plan was that everyone agreed to it, so the JK was obviously on board, it was a terrible criticism. Looking further into VE's filter, I didn't see any further substantial objection, and he went forward to accusing gonzaw for his 'scumslip', which was at best minor, and can generally be read as unimportant. To MidnightGladius (and VE because he will understand due to being involved with me in Newbie VI) and others - regarding my 'meta'. Have a look at my Space Station Mafia filter - also full of one-liners and not a lot useful, where I was townie. This is a product of not really knowing or understanding what was going on. In Newbie VI, my play in the first half was somewhat directionless and scummy, to the point where both dead blues had strong suspicions of me, as did the last remaining townie in lylo. Only in the second half of the game where I had plenty of material to work with (I like filters) did I manage to find the scum and make a convincing case. In Mafia LI, I replaced in for the start of Day 2 - there was already a lot of material to work with. Rounding off quickly, Matt's case on Paqman - it doesn't seem to have much merit. Reading through the case, I asked myself 'could Paqman have posted all this as town?' - and my answer was yes, it was all perfectly feasibly townie. I should mostly be available to read questions for most of the evening, so if people would like to quiz me, go ahead. I would quite like not to be lynched before I've even got started. | ||
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On April 22 2012 06:11 BlazingJitsu wrote: No problem bro doosk: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=14#270 + Show Spoiler [My Case on Marv] + On April 21 2012 20:13 BlazingJitsu wrote: Marvellosity. Let me talk to you. No correction let me talk AT you. what are you doing this game? Let's look at your filter + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2012 09:05 marvellosity wrote: Mattchew, I thought we were gonna have a long, happy, and romp-filled relationship, then you make me click on multiple spoilers. On April 21 2012 10:23 marvellosity wrote: I've tried to think of a bunch of different scenarios and I've not yet managed to picture one where mafia couldn't claim the same situation. The only way a vigi really clears himself is by shooting scum :/ On April 21 2012 10:33 marvellosity wrote: Holy gonzaw post. Nice ^--- These posts are short and worthless. ^--- this post is actually correct, but interestingly, despite the fact that it's the right time to talk about the game mechanics... you never talk about the game mechanics. You ask some unhelpful questions and echo worthless obvious shit other people have said, but otherwise you're deadweight. Where's your contributions, Marv? Where's the discussion that it is "absolute the right time" to talk about? or do you only have inane questions? ^=== HOLY SHIT this question is bad. holy shit. Of course there's good circumstances to make a vig shot! SHOOT A SCUM GUY. Christ. Even if you shoot a godfather, at least that's a data point (not quite a DT check's worth, because it might hasve been roleblock), and if you shoot a goon, hey, you shot a goon. Are you TRYING to be as unhelpful as possible? Are you TRYING to actively inhibit our blue roles? Surely if so it's through neither quality of prose nor persistence in communicating the ideas contained therein with your miniscule cumuluative post length. Typically this is where I say "you can do better, marv" but really, ANYONE could do better. You're shitting on the town and trying to build up a post count without saying ANYTHING. You're lurking in plain sight. ##vote: marvellosity. -Blazinghand -Blazinghand At least have the courtesy of acknowledging my recent post before regurgitating your previous ones :> | ||
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Paragraph 1: The reasonable conclusion a townie would come to. What do you want me to do? Come out on the side of a plan that can't work without entire town vote which it doesn't have? No. Paragraph 2: I found VE's objection and lack of continuing through bad. Do I find it somewhat scummy? Yes. Do I have an entire case to present on the matter? No. Paragraph 3: Arguing against my own meta? I'm not arguing against anything. I am explaining, and you can bloody well go and look for yourself and confirm every word. Paragraph 4: There was a case made, and I explained fairly obviously why I didn't find the case valid. ??? Get a grip. | ||
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On April 22 2012 08:20 BlazingJitsu wrote: Note: even now, EVEN NOW, Marv still hasn't had a scumread. He hasn't pushed a case. He hasn't pressured ANYONE. Somehow. How is this possible? Well, it's simple, Marv is unhelpful shitty dick scum. Now he's gonna come out with a scumread at last, after like 9 butt tons of pressures, and it's gonna be shitty. And then we're gonna lynch him and be the first TL town in a long time to have a D1 scum lynch. -Blazinghand Somewhat fucking surprisingly, this won't be the fucking case. I'm strung up because short of time I make a couple of one-liners. I've since explained TWICE what I think about various parts of the game (including paragraphy analsyis of your shitty case). you're going to lynch me above all the other lurkers in this game who have literally said NOTHING because instead of reading my posts and understanding them from A TOWNIE POINT OF VIEW, you're being a fucking newbie with confirmation bias and seeing everything as scum. jdub, i am disappoint. | ||
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Are my one-liners confusing? Are they leading the town astray? am I promoting confusion? Since I've tried to post tonight, have I not been transparent? Where is my fucking scum play that isn't "posted a little pointlessly and now I'm tunneling him to fuck"? | ||
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On April 22 2012 08:44 BlazingJitsu wrote: You've literally done nothing helpful. This is another scummy post from you. You're still not helping. -Blazinghand Yet you fail to answer any of my questions. Why don't you look at the filter list and ask what about 6 of the non-posters have done? I've cast my opinion on matt's case - I think it isn't right, and I've provided the reasons. I've also cast my opinion that VE's objection to gonzaw's claim was REALLY BAD, and he never backed it up. Please, go ahead and tell me I've done less than a bunch of other lurkers in the game. | ||
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On April 22 2012 09:16 BlazingJitsu wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GxTnK.gif) I'd rather be annoying than dull. Cause, well, that's you. Dull. not bright. slow. I can only assume you're intentionally NOT getting the basis of my case. The crux of the case against Marv isn't that his POST COUNT is low. It's that he's posted a lot and it's ALL WORTHLESS. ALL WORTHLESS. And there's fair amoutn of posting, too! And it's all dressed up to look like it MIGHT be useful, YET HERE WE ARE. Marv still hasn't done anything useful. -Blazinghand Tunnelling much? | ||
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