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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 26 2012 23:09 GMT
#1629
On April 27 2012 08:02 johnnywup wrote:
Alternatively both ottox and zeph are town and risen didn't foresee that zeph could have gotten lynch so made a "scum read" on ottox, assuming risen is scum, thinking he could get an ottox lynch. though this doesn't explain the last minute switch.

verdict on the voteswitching:
not alignment indicative

but what if...."_____"
this doesn't explain the voteswitch

therefore the voteswitch is not alignment indicative

?
I am sure i said that if ottoxlol flips town then Risen also being town is the most likley scenario.....
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 26 2012 23:18 GMT
#1632
On April 27 2012 08:12 johnnywup wrote:
Ok, but did you read my post? I don't think this voteswitching is alignment indicative at all.

Yeah. That made no sense.
Votes are how town kills mafia. Ultimately your decision making is centred around trying to influence other votes and how to uses your own vote. When you do something with your vote you will do so for a reason. Figuring out others reasons for what they do with their votes can allow you to deduce their alignment. A voteswitch can be hugely alignment indicative since we can analyse the implications of the switch and geuss at the motivation for it.

Is there anything that you DO think can be indicative of alignment?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 26 2012 23:30 GMT
#1634
On April 27 2012 08:24 johnnywup wrote:
laya, he switched back. it could be an honest mistake of not thinking about the tie rule. I do find votes alignment indicative but in this specific situation I can't see this being specifically scummy or townie, or revealing of either players alignment based on a flip. his voting on ottox in the first place may be alignment indicative, but the vote switch isn't.

i think its probable he just forgot about the tie rule. If you think he realized "oh, my voteswitch and the voteswitch back will change first majority to zeph, but my vote won't change really", then carry on thinking that, but I don't think that that is what happened.

If it's an honest mistake then there is basically no chance that Risen is scum.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 27 2012 00:08 GMT
#1657
I know we didn't do it yesterday but we should stop posting until the daypost since the night is over and some people are probably dead and should not be posting.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#1672
agreed it's twenty to two and i want to know whose dead
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 27 2012 01:33 GMT
#1674
Balls to it I'm tired.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 27 2012 10:20 GMT
#1704
GG
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:03 GMT
#2431
Too... tired .... to... articulate rage!!!
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:04 GMT
#2438
On May 05 2012 09:03 Risen wrote:
Good game guys! I'm in shock right now that we pulled this off. I thought for sure mattchew revealing my crumbs was going to give away that he was scum and I had given them to him. I'm in shock right now.

It completely revealed that
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:07 GMT
#2448
None of that made any sense.

It's like everyone in the game was trying to help the other team achieve their wincon
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:23 GMT
#2481
blue the obs was hidden because of modkilled players
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:33 GMT
#2501
I think that VE should get a ban for ragequitting and voting for himself
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 05 2012 00:46 GMT
#2523
On May 05 2012 09:39 Mattchew wrote:
The biggest problem with TL towns right now is not judging blue claims by the persons posting, people are judging blue claims by whether or not they would have played the role the same way. because someone plays diff than you doesnt make them scum.

That is A problem with TL towns.

Other problems include:
Deliberately doing the absolute worst thing you could possibly do with your role
Not reading the thread
Waiting until the last possible second to vote
Not reading the thread
Not reading the OP
Tunnelling a player relentlessly for no particular reason
Insulting others for the sake of it
Not posting much at all
Refusing to establish you innocence
Breaking the rules
Not using their roles
Not discussing anything at all
Being uncooperative
Not reading the thread
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