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##Vote: Ottoxlol | ||
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On April 26 2012 09:03 MidnightGladius wrote: At least all of those votes moving around at the deadline should yield something interesting. And that's our 4-man scumteam. GG | ||
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On April 28 2012 07:17 Ottoxlol wrote: If the triumvirate would be scum why on earth scum MG would say that? I took MG's post to be kinda observing, as if a chessmaster pulled some sort of elaborate trap on his opponent, then re-emerged in the audience with a fake moustache to say "That guy fell into a really elaborate trap!" Except it's not that elaborate. And the fake moustache doesn't seem to be working. @marv's case on risen I really think it was a bus to try and distance himself from Ottoxlol and decided to come back to his rescue. Back in Werewolves (was it?) I was scum, and our original plan between the 3 of us was to take polar opposite viewpoints so in case one of us went down it wouldn't lead back to the other two, in case immediately. I still can't explain though, why he would come to Otto's rescue if both were scum. This is fishy. Although now he's voting on his buddy to make amends? Or are they all turning on each other so we don't hit all 4 of them? | ||
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On April 29 2012 01:19 Mattchew wrote: So you don't listening to the thoughts of confirmed townies? Interesting, another soft defense of ottox/risen I was about to say something like this but I accidentally hit the refresh button. And dead people's thoughts are important because it opens up the question "did they piss someone off and that person was gunning for them?" | ||
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On April 29 2012 01:24 Mattchew wrote: wrong and WIFOM dead peoples thoughts are important because we know their alignment, that is all Knowing that Mementoss was blue serves us nothing except knowing we only have one blue left. But knowing what his allegiances are, or any other dead person's, is what can save us this game. | ||
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Ghost_403 --> ottoxlol Risen --> ottoxlol Mattchew --> ottoxlol [UoN]Sentinel --> ottoxlol Ottoxlol --> MidnightGladius Bill Murray --> MidnightGladius marvellosity --> MidnightGladius johnnywup --> MidnightGladius Janaan --> MidnightGladius PaqMan --> MidnightGladius BroodkingEXE -> BillMurray(?) This last one is painting bkexe redder in my eyes. | ||
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On April 29 2012 10:34 PaqMan wrote: I also don't like how Sentinel completely dropped off our radar after Gonzaw died. He was Gonzaw's biggest scumread. Sentinel Case ^Everyone please read through it. Ok, let's go back and see what he's accused me of, and what's still relevant: Conclusion:
He's scum and I'll vote for him tomorrow. Let's see: "Sentinel is just posting to avoid the spotlight". This has been rendered false. I have been pushing the Otto lynch, coming up with conclusions, and offering plans. I do too much WIFOM, granted, but it's not to avoid the spotlight. It's quite the opposite. "He ignores all current discussions and posts things that are irrelevant to them". I think it's safe to say this is now absolutely null. "Starts fighting with ghost to disrupt the thread". Well I can't really correct this one but I haven't touched ghost, and as I said before, I was pissed at the time and wasn't thinking clearly. Nothing more. "He is "suspicious" and wishy washy about a lot of players". I'm suspicious of more than one (Otto, Risen, Brood, BM) but so is most of the others. Some have even more (who was the one who had 6 people on his potential scum list?). And I certainly do go back to them again, and in fact I'm still favoring an Otto lynch Day 4. "He votes VE" well I can't change that. But I CAN point out that Zeph voted VE to not be modkilled, stated such, and flipped green. So I don't see why this would make me red. "Doesn't actively contribute, lurks, and posts only sporadically". Granted, I haven't posted as much as say, 2-3 days ago, but I am not a lurker. So this case is pretty much irrelevant now. | ||
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On April 29 2012 14:05 BroodKingEXE wrote: @Johnny No, I am saying that JK's can jail their most town reads. Mafia then have to guess who to shoot (since they want to get rid of influential or correct townies) and whether they are JK'ed. I think a jailing using a reasoned desicion (figuring out who is town) is better than having a 1/3 chance of a useful jail. Still, there's also the fact that in the end, Mafia has a 7/8 chance of successfully shooting someone. So to max out the odds they can go for someone who isn't being suspected at the moment, or just shoot an active player. Personally, I see many players in this game who are influential and leading the discussion. JK can't jail them all. 1/3 seems like better odds than 1/8. | ||
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2 hours left, gents. We shall see what happens. | ||
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I'm off for now, I'll be back just before the night ends. | ||
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Jailkeeper here. I jailed Otto, because, as I said, it felt more likely I could stop the shot. Although I still think Otto is red, he is not a goon, and as you can see, one of ours died last night. What do we do now? | ||
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On April 30 2012 09:37 johnnywup wrote: hey guys im eliminated from the tournament so i have a few moments to look over the thread. first off: do you have proof sentinel? I believe you but I'd like proof just in case Ottox is confirmed Not Goon from sentinels. I think we should aim for goons before GFs, even if we have confirmed scum. GFs are useless at this stage for scum, we don't have a vig so they don't have any real powers. We need to aim for the KP before we kill the GFs, imo. So if anyone has any idea who the Goon is, we should lynch that person. Well, I have breadcrumbs. Well, when I was lurking in the beginning of the game, I was gonna breadcrumb "Jailkeeper". Maybe this reduced what I could say at that point in the game, but, well, I'm still alive and I don't look like I'm gonna be lynched, so yeah. First page of my filter, from the post that begins "Just wondering", first letter of each paragraph spells the first five letters of "JAILKEEPER". Then I gave up and came under attack, and yeah. First night was during my lurking phase, and was too busy to PM iGrok an action. Second night I was going to do Otto. I really wanted to reveal myself here: On April 26 2012 11:09 johnnywup wrote: vigs definitely should shoot tonight though. and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them? On April 26 2012 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK, tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums. But I had no way of proving there was a jailkeeper in the game. I could reveal myself, but since there was no third guy to protect me, I wasn't going to die. Now I have 72 hours to live, but I think at this point the ends justify the means. Back to the story. I was going to do Otto. Because Johnnywup made this post: On April 26 2012 11:43 johnnywup wrote: my opinion for blue actions is that blues should do whatever they feel benefits town the most. they cannot consult town to find whats best so they should go by gut feeling and research. don't reveal yourself unless you're a vig, and if you're a vig, reveal only JUST before day post. tracker only reveal if you track someone visiting someone who died, JK should only reveal if there is a missing scum kill. And this really got it into my head that I should be using jailing as an offensive ability. Thus I would attempt to jail one of the two goons. Now my number one read is Otto, and coupled with the fact that BkEXE and Risen both defended him, he's goon, right? (Well wrong, but that's beside the point). So I'd jail Otto. On April 27 2012 04:35 layabout wrote: ghost you may want to do some redirecting: JK's stay the hell away from ottox, if you want to block a goon go for BK (or maybe MG) instead. Vig's shoot the crap out of ottox. When he flips red we will be in a great position. On the outside chance that he flips green then we will know we are on the wrong track. Trackers on Risen or BK or MG. But then we didn't know that there wasn't a vig in the game. So I followed layabout's advice and stayed the hell away from ottox. Instead I blocked Broodking. Two guys died, no dice. Therefore broodking is also not a goon. Third day comes, Mementoss dies which means I'm the last blue. I go back to my old plan, jail Ottoxlol, nobody gets shot Night 3, and then I come out riding on my shining white stallion, saying that I'm jailkeeper, we got the goon, and game ends Day 4 because scum has no KP remaining. Except it didn't turn out that way. And here I am. And marvellosity is dead. And here's his last post, which actually scared me a bit when he died, because he was getting suspicious of my comments again. On April 30 2012 08:59 marvellosity wrote: So, in case I die tonight. My thoughts about scumteam atm are: Ottoxlol, Bill Murray, Sentinel/Risen. But the third is definitely not set in stone, if I was forced to choose I'd go Sentinel. As things went I pushed Zephirdd for lynch and it saved Ottoxlol, then my analysis and my gut said MG was scum while Ottoxlol was town. These reads haven't gone very well for me, and the weight of opinion on Ottoxlol seems overwhelming. As far as I'm concerned, Bill Murray pretty much claimed scum on the thread: This is just taking the piss (see in spoilers also) and no-one really noticed, but wow. Practically a scum claim. I didn't like Sentinel's comments on what the remaining blue should be doing tonight. He still seems off to me. [b]Risen]/b] just made a post so I'm not so sure. There's cases against him, his voting madness, and giving up is just not good. Now reread that knowing that I'm the jailkeeper. Now it makes sense why I make these comments. Right? | ||
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