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On April 25 2012 03:10 ghost_403 wrote: @MIxMasterToss: I could see that. Alright, let's lynch Sentinel today, and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good? which is the first time that I began to push for an Ottoxlol lynch. | ||
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##unvote [UoN]Sentinel ##vote ottoxlol | ||
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Guys. Risen claimed scum in thread. There's no need for WIFOM about why he screws up the vote and ended Day 2 with us lynching a townie. The fact of the matter is he screws up the vote and ended Day 2 with us lynching a townie. That's the only thing that's important. I believe that the scum chose to do this in order to protect their KP. Risen rolled GF, Ottoxlol rolled scum. It makes sense that they would sacrifice Risen in order to protect their KP for one more night. Let's step back again away from all of the WIFOM and take a look at what happened yesterday again: 1) Town thinks Ottoxlol is scummy and moves to lynch him. 2) Town is ready to lynch Ottoxlol right up to the deadline. 3) Risen's vote stops us from lynching Ottoxlol. There is no reason for a town Risen to do this. Period. Therefore, Risen must be scum. The path ahead of us is clear. If you're a JK/Tracker, actions on Ottoxlol tonight. If you're a vig, shoot Risen tonight. | ||
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@Ottoxlol: Easy. You're not a townie. @Marv: They didn't, which necessitated drastic measures. WIFOM warning: Perhaps they were preparing to let the town lynch Otto, and wanted to buy some townie credit through the exchange. Later on in the day, the Zeph movement picked up steam, allowing them the option of sacking Risen for Otto. @johnny: There is a lot better chance of Risen arguing his way out of the lynch as "I'm a stupid townie" than "I voted in such a way that a townie was lynched". Makes sense to me. Also, you're ignoring the fact that there's no reason for a townie to do something so foolish as to switch his vote back after his vote caused a lynch. That's something scum would do. | ||
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##vote ottoxlol | ||
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On April 28 2012 03:54 johnnywup wrote: I don't like this push on ottox. he may be scum but i don't think his lynch is beneficial today tbh. this feels like a scum attempt to push a lynch. + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2012 03:00 BroodKingEXE wrote: OMG. St. Daniels voted for Zeph without posting in this thread or using reasoning. If he was town he would have provided some sort of reason or even a vote in the thread. ##Vote: St. Daniels yeah we know but his flip isn't going to help us catch other scum On April 28 2012 03:36 Risen wrote: I agree completely. Which is why ##vote MidnightGladius jk, back from classes. Gimme a while since I'm playing eve atm what do you mean jk? you don't think mg is scum? also neither of you posted your vote in the voting thread. . . Johnnywup, this post is so scummy, I can't even stand it. You state "he may be scum" and "i don't think his lynch is beneficial to us today" in the same sentence. Protip: Lynching scum is always beneficial to town. If you think he's not scum, prove it instead of making baseless and contradictory comments. | ||
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On April 26 2012 08:57 Risen wrote: ##unvote: Ottoxlol ##Vote: Zephirdd On April 26 2012 08:59 Risen wrote: ##unvote: Zephirdd ##Vote: Ottoxlol These votes were what ended the day with a mislynch. Without Risen's actions, we would have ended the day with the lynch of Ottoxlol. Is Ottoxlol scum? We don't know for sure yet. The only way to confirm anyone in this game is to make them flip. The hosts will tell us the truth. What we do know is this: Zephridd was not scum, and Risen's actions proved this to be true. Why did Risen ultimately do this? Well, there are four possible scenarios which we need to cover before we can answer this question. In this game, there are four possible alignment combinations for Risen and Ottoxlol.
(1) makes the most sense to me. A scum forced a mislynch in order to save his scum buddy. The only way that this would make sense is if Ottoxlol is a goon and Risen is not. The scum would in this case be trading Risen for a KP for another night. It's a good trade on their part. If they are good about it, maybe they can even convince the town that Risen just did something stupid. There are four of them left in a town of 13. Just might work out. (2) is just plain stupid. Risen would be jepordizing himself in order to gain, what, an extra mislynch? Day 2 mislynches Zephridd, Day 3 lynches Risen, Day 4 mislynches Ottoxlol? That's a bad plan that goes against their wincon. No, this isn't the case. (3) and (4) both can be covered by the same logic. Town Risen might risk his neck swapping from one candidate to another, but why back? Does Risen not know the vote count, that a switch to Zephridd would seal his fate? Risen has a last minute change of heart, and regrets his decision? Unlikely. A townie in this situation would cast his vote, then return to the town saying "You're as much to blame for this as me." It did take a town to lynch Zephridd. So why not own it? Why the switch back? The only answer that you can arrive at to understand that is "Risen is bad." So there you have it, folks. There are two possible explanations for what happened last night. Either Risen is scum, or Risen is bad. I believe Risen has played enough games for me to know that he's not terrible at this game. He knows what's going on, and I believe that last night he played to his wincon perfectly. It's just not the same as ours. I believe that (1) is what happened last night, and that's why I voted to lynch Ottoxlol today. But ghost! How did the scum get themselves into this position? Why did Risen sack himself? Why don't you care what he did before he voted to lynch Zephridd? To answer you: Don't know, don't care. What I know is this. There is no reason for a town Risen to do what he did other than he's terrible. I don't think Risen is terrible. Ask the scum how it ended up happening after the game. Right now, there's one thing I'm doing, and one thing you should be doing: ##vote ottoxlol + Show Spoiler + Already did this, added for DRAMATIC emphasis. | ||
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