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Pages 63-65 are blocked on my school filter so all the news I have right now are the eight posts.
I'll have to leave around two hours before deadline for swim practice and won't get back until 1-2 hours after.
On whatever date and time Ottoxlol wrote:
a) I'm just frustrated that no one reads my posts I have to repeat everything 10 times. Also the posts 90% lack that kind of contribution that it is expected from me.
Personally, it's not that I don't read your posts, and yes sometimes you do repeat things twice. But sometimes you scoot your way around a question or give an awkward answer where repeating it will do nothing. So, I agree with Mattchew on this:
because you will skew the case and your answer to put you in the best most townie light as town or scum, so your personal defense is pretty much meaningless in my eyes. I will judge you off your cases, interactions with others, opinions, and overall gameplay, not your self-defense
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EBWOP: The pages suddenly worked! My filter is apparently blocking me trying to get to my posts from TL Home, but from here it works perfectly fine.
So right now I'm switching my vote to Ottoxlol. Currently my plan of voting is Otto -> BM -> St. Dan (for lurking, the fact that he's otherwise active means I have no problems attacking him for lurking)
I'm really hoping Otto is scum, because if he isn't, it's prolly a death sentence for me.
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On April 26 2012 01:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 01:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: The pages suddenly worked! My filter is apparently blocking me trying to get to my posts from TL Home, but from here it works perfectly fine.
So right now I'm switching my vote to Ottoxlol. Currently my plan of voting is Otto -> BM -> St. Dan (for lurking, the fact that he's otherwise active means I have no problems attacking him for lurking)
I'm really hoping Otto is scum, because if he isn't, it's prolly a death sentence for me. I find this an odd comment to make.
How is it odd? If I was scum I'd already know if he was with me or not. If he flips town, I'm suspecting the wrong people (I thought VE was bullshitting and now Otto has crap posting) and I'm that much more scummy. Even if I'm not next in line for lynching, I'm going to have that much more trouble with my analysis because first I have to ask myself what I'm doing wrong.
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On April 26 2012 04:57 johnnywup wrote:i'm pushing sentinel the most out of gonzaws cases because of: Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 10:27 gonzaw wrote:
Whatever, Sentinel should be lynched first though.[...]
I may have played badly the first few days and lurked, but I'm not stupid enough to shoot the guy who wrote the biggest case on me. Shooting ghost in his stead (or both of them) would have been even more of a dead giveaway.
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EBWOP: That was hypothetics, not a confession. I'm town.
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On April 26 2012 05:05 johnnywup wrote:
lol sentinel...before your ebwop i was like uhh o.o. still, that will be noted. and i dont believe you either. he wrote that case after the deadline. scum couldn't change their shot at that point, so your point is null.
Duly noted.
At any rate, I feel like gonzaw's three biggest problems with me were that:
A) I lurked
2) I had a retarded case on VE
D) I didn't take a position on anyone.
I'm not doing A anymore, especially since my school filter now lets me in to post, and D I've done my best to correct by looking through filters, pressuring Ottoxlol (with a quick break for BM but Otto's getting voted so I can get back to him). I can't really fix my case on VE at this point, but I've tried to justify that with the fact that I thought his claim was pure bullshit, and again going back to my last point I've tried to make better cases in this game.
So what's left?
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On April 26 2012 05:13 johnnywup wrote:
I'm wondering why it was A 2 D and not ABC or 1 2 3. Whats up with that? O_o
I watched Home Alone recently, it's one of my favorite quotes from Kevin's older brother: + Show Spoiler +Megan: You're not at all worried that something might happen to Kevin?
Buzz: No, for three reasons: A, I'm not that lucky. Two, we use smoke detectors and D, we live on the most boring street in the whole United States of America, where nothing even remotely dangerous will ever happen. Period.
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Alright, I'll be back in 30 minutes and I'll take a good long look at Zeph's filter... I really want to know why I'm always buddied up with him when suspicion arises for either one of us.
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First off, congrats to layabout for his (at least at the time of writing) soon-to-be-1000 posts. Now, the reason I was here:
Zeph starts off arguing against Marv and MG, then posts one of the fluffiest posts of all time, a Kanye-esque "I was gonna make a case but nah, let me just tell you how much these people suck.
On April 23 2012 07:45 Zephirdd wrote:
Just for the record, im last minute voting VE in order to avoid a modkill; I dont recall any other candidate better than him either, although I kinda lost track since page 30 or so
And what I love is how he made more convincing statements on people he wasn't lynching than the one guy he lynched. More fluff, one liners, and on to page 3.
BH/J flipped town. That means all the opinions from the two-headed player are town opinions. That means two town players were thinking that Marvellosity and Ottoxlol were scum.
This thing. Townies can be wrong. And he contradicts his logic in the next sentence:
Gonzaw's latest thoughts were that me and Sentinel were scum
Sloosh does not state anything specific, but he accused MG and asked for people's opinions on both me and him.
So BH thought Otto was scum, and that makes him scum? Since Gonzaw thought you were scum, does that make you scum? Because in this particular argument you've as much evidence against Otto as you have against yourself.
By the way, lynching Risen or johnny is retarded. IF you want my opinion, I'd say Sentinel is the best lynch target right now.
Four hours after I get back and post my offense/defense:
On April 25 2012 09:49 Zephirdd wrote:
Anyhow, I'm baffled about how much people can't consolidate reads.
My scum reads are actually similar to BH's: marv, Midnight and Ottoxlol look bad to me. In fact, I'd say Ottoxlol is a better target than Sentinel for now.
And retracts that statement.
The rest of Zeph's filter contains similarly contradictory logic, retarded voting patterns, buddying with people to get his opinions, and retracting multiple opinions of his own. I think this is textbook scum and understand a little more now why people thought I was scum based on my D1/N1 play.
I'll be leaving pretty soon again and won't be home until long after the deadline, but I'm keeping my vote on Otto unless someone can convince me otherwise.
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Sentinel, I just pointed out town-confirmed reads, as in, reads that can be trusted to be pro-town. Opinions that we know that aren't scum opinions. Y'know, trustable opinions. No, I never said they are right.
Marv, just because I never mention Sentinel, teh lurker, doesn't mean I can't vote him to bring him out. Simply put, after he posted I switched to Ottoxlol.
You couldn't put that in 1 sentence instead of 4? Also you didn't bring me out, I brought myself out. Although if you want to put the credit on someone else it would be gonzaw and his legitimately solid case.
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On April 26 2012 06:58 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 06:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Sentinel, I just pointed out town-confirmed reads, as in, reads that can be trusted to be pro-town. Opinions that we know that aren't scum opinions. Y'know, trustable opinions. No, I never said they are right.
Marv, just because I never mention Sentinel, teh lurker, doesn't mean I can't vote him to bring him out. Simply put, after he posted I switched to Ottoxlol.
You couldn't put that in 1 sentence instead of 4? Also you didn't bring me out, I brought myself out. Although if you want to put the credit on someone else it would be gonzaw and his legitimately solid case. How often have you seen the following situation? => OMG HE LURKS ##VOTE LURK => Hi guys Im back => OMG HE NO LURKS ANYMOAR ##UNVOTE LURK That's the same fucking thing. Geez.
No, I'm special. I don't have to lurk to be considered a scum.
Welp, that's it for me. I'll be home around 01:30 GMT (+00:00) to check out the thread, and I wish you all the best of luck. Let's hope we get someone red today
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Here are the current standings, updated:
Bill Murray - 1 votes
Mattchew
Risen - 1 Vote
Paqman
Zephirdd - 5 Vote
johnnywup
Janaan
MidnightGladius
St. Daniel
marvellosity
Ottoxlol - 6 Votes
Mementoss
BlazingJitsu
Risen
Bill Murray
Zephirdd
ghost_403
[UoN]Sentinel
MidnightGladius - 1 Vote
I think this is what it looks like.
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EBWOP - layabout should be under MG votes
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Holyshit that was the closest lynch I have ever seen.
We got two blues left. I'm thinking Otto and BM, visit/shoot/jail them both, come up with some sort of contingency so blues can do their work without revealing who they are.
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On April 26 2012 11:09 johnnywup wrote:
vigs definitely should shoot tonight though.
and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them?
First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK, tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums.
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EBWOP: By "shoot a green" I meant "heal a green". I had the vig role in mind for some reason
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On April 26 2012 11:16 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 11:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP: By "shoot a green" I meant "heal a green". I had the vig role in mind for some reason The vig role of trying to shoot greens. yeah ok sentinel. you were thinking of scum kills.
The shoot part, not the green part -__-
On April 26 2012 11:28 Janaan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 11:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Holyshit that was the closest lynch I have ever seen.
We got two blues left. I'm thinking Otto and BM, visit/shoot/jail them both, come up with some sort of contingency so blues can do their work without revealing who they are. Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On April 26 2012 11:09 johnnywup wrote:
vigs definitely should shoot tonight though.
and sentinel, wtf? visit/shoot/jail them both? You realise jail heals them? from NKs? Such as vig shots? . . . youre suggesting that we both protect and shoot them? First off, no. One blue does his action on Otto and the other blue does his action on BM. And I'm wondering about the JK role actually, whether we can gamble and roleblock one of the two goons or having to shoot a green. Optimally we could have tracker and JK , tracker reveals himself and JK protects him from the shadows until we find scums. I'm sorry, but what? Look at the bolded sections. First they should do their work without revealing, then a tracker should reveal himself without any guarantee that we even HAVE a Jailkeeper? Not only can the JK not protect the tracker without the tracker being roleblocked, but no real tracker would claim unless they had some actual information that we could find scum with. These two posts in conjunction look pretty scummy to me. Not only is the advice to blues bad, he contradicts himself.
Oh god, and I was on a roll too... tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or maybe even later. Contingency we should get to work on right now, discussing what we could/should do with each possible combo of blues. There's only 6 of them, shouldn't be too hard. And then tracker/jk plan should happen day 3 or later if tracker finds something worth revealing himself for.
The way you phrase it looks like tracker's gonna claim it for the world to see and everyone will get along happily. I was thinking more WIFOM-y game where JK either protects tracker or someone else, but then you posted this:
On April 26 2012 11:43 johnnywup wrote:
my opinion for blue actions is that blues should do whatever they feel benefits town the most. they cannot consult town to find whats best so they should go by gut feeling and research. don't reveal yourself unless you're a vig, and if you're a vig, reveal only JUST before day post. tracker only reveal if you track someone visiting someone who died, JK should only reveal if there is a missing scum kill.
I'm going to go with this and shut up before I say something more stupid, although I'd add to that the scenario where tracker visits JK and someone doesn't die?
2x Mafia Goon: You may kill at night. You are not required to kill.
Right now this is my only problem. JK can be thrown off.
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Off to sleep. See you in 7 hours.
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On April 26 2012 11:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I was thinking more WIFOM-y game where JK either protects tracker or someone else
<<johnny's post>>
I'm going to go with this and shut up before I say something more stupid
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Layabout's post w/ the timeframe seems to clear everything up for me. I still believe Monsieur Otto is scum, so I'll have an easy time believing all 3 of them are mafias. I could see some logic behind Brood being a townie and deliberately pressed for time, but unlikely.
The question is, if Otto is town, what would be the motives of Brood and Risen? I don't see any clear ones for now, so I'll go about believing Otto is scum.
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