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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 09:49 GMT
#7
/in fo sho
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 13 2012 21:31 GMT
#44
wait so are we allowed to post yet?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 01:19 GMT
#96
On April 14 2012 10:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 10:00 Blazinghand wrote:
On April 14 2012 09:55 Tunkeg wrote:
Bluelightz where you at by the way? To busy discussing with BH in the scumQT or care to bring some imput?

[image loading]


Haha, just between me and you BH, this is pretty funny knowing one of us is lying his ass off

if you were town wouldnt you say "knowing YOU're lying your ass off"? Since you're sure you're not...
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 01:20 GMT
#97
EBWOP: That's enough to make me confident you're scum. Scum.

##vote Tunkeg
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 01:31 GMT
#99
Damnit. Well when its day I vote him.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 02:43 GMT
#109
oh instant majority then ##unvote

I still think tunkegs scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 09:12 GMT
#118
Ikinda see your points, from both tunkeg and dirkzor. i'll read more into cop vs cop in the morning but asof right now they both look evenly scummy/towny, in myopinion. reading the argument from dirkzor, i agree its kinda weird how BH was like "Cop needs to claim NOW" even though he thought claiming cop was best and he was "cop". i dontthink a cop would post that, they would just claim right away. Onthe other hand, tunkegs resistance to claiming n0 even though its clearly the best move for town is also relatively scummy in my opinion. I can'tsay for certain who's lying at this point, will re-assess the situation when i wake up.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 17:56 GMT
#243
just woke up.
##vote Blazinghand
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 19:25 GMT
#245
On April 15 2012 04:04 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 02:56 johnnywup wrote:
just woke up.
##vote Blazinghand



Tell me more. Who do you think is scum?

BH obviously for having claimed cop, then the CCer dies, so he should obviously be scum, save idiocy for a town claiming cop.
I think you're the scumbuddy for your "confidence" in BH being the scum so early. Only scum should know that, so I think you're bussing.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 01:04 GMT
#251
On April 15 2012 08:10 Radfield wrote:
Lets try this again Johnny.

Assuming I die tonight, where does that leave you with your reads? Who do you think is likely town? Who would you think is likely scum.

In fact, maybe you could rank people for me, give them a grade on how likely to be townie they are.
  • Does Bugs late condemnation of BH seem off to you?
  • Does Bluelightz not making sense lead you to think he is scummy, or just a confused townie?
  • Where does Dirkzor rank? Do you see his contributions as legitimate or contrived?

These are just starter questions to get your juices flowing, so feel free to elaborate above and beyond the things I'm asking in this post. Bluelightz, feel free to respond to this as well(though substitute bluelightz for johnnywup)


Bugs "late condemnation" was fine, when he saw something scummy he went on it and I agree that what he pointed out made me suspect BH more. If it was me I wouldn't really condemn someone unless I thought he was scum, so maybe he was just late to the BH-is-scum party, and didn't see why BH was scum initially.

Actually, looking back at bluelightz he does look way more scummy than you. His responses are exclusively one-liners. And this is extremely contradictory ( the posts are also somewhat far apart so i may be completely wrong about them talking about the same thing but I think they both are talking about my early vote on tunkeg)


On April 14 2012 20:29 Bluelightz wrote:
Wbg, Either you or radfield is scum, jwup is town because of the reasons in the next paragraph.

Jwup is town because in my mind scum won't go this far on a person or as far as voting said person.

Im open to change though


[B]On April 14 2012 19:38 Bluelightz wrote:
Presto I'm town. [b]Last scum somewhere between jwup for voting tunkeg, or rad/you depending who dies tonight.


emphasis mine. obviously contradictory

Dirkzors arguments seem genuine and make a ton of sense. Super logical. I'd say he's one of the most likely to be town.



from townliness 1 to 10:
Dirkzor 8
Radfield 5
Bluelightz 3
Wherebugsgo 6
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 01:05 GMT
#252
Damn, bolding in 2nd BlueLightz quote was off, whatever though
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 15:17 GMT
#260
Isn't 50/50 chance for confirming a second player for tommorrow better than a 0% chance if we mislynch today if doctor claims?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 17:00 GMT
#263
I agree. Doc should stay anonymous and we have a nolynch today in order to have a SLIGHTLY better shot tommorrow. It's only slightly but we need as many advantages as we can get right now.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#265
Not buddying you, just think you're least likely to be scum. Things could change that, nothing has so far.

BL seems most likely to scum but I'm not liking how "on top of town" Radfield is. Not necessarily scummy, but if scum is on top of town then it's unlikely for people to lynch him. So that's something to keep in mind. If I learned anything from LI that would be don't take for granted someone acting like a town leader is in fact town.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 19:47 GMT
#278
dead thread is dead ;;

no lynch huh? right decision because a mislynch would cost us the game.
if doc heals correctly then it's 100% win for town i think. if maf kills doc we're in a tough situation though. so this game is almost completely decided tonight.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 19:59 GMT
#280
2 confirmed townies makes things much easier, im not saying we auto-win but it would make it a lot easier.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 22:42 GMT
#285
now im wondering what that message said lol

not much to say atm though, i guess we just have to wait this night out?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#288
I don't think bl is a bad townie, he usually puts more effort in so he's either scum or busy. most likely scum. its weird how different he is in this game than any other game i've seen/played with him in it. Also calling someone town then KPing them seems like a way for scum to be like "ha i told you he was town!" thing, trying to clear himself of guilt.

good writeup, i agree with the points, i almost wish it was a third party writing that so i could see an analysis on you haha. its good to see someone putting effort in this dead thread. If BL turns out to be town i will be extremely shocked.

(PS way to use my contradiction argument as your own ><)
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 14:27 GMT
#310
On April 14 2012 18:12 johnnywup wrote:
Ikinda see your points, from both tunkeg and dirkzor. i'll read more into cop vs cop in the morning but asof right now they both look evenly scummy/towny, in myopinion. reading the argument from dirkzor, i agree its kinda weird how BH was like "Cop needs to claim NOW" even though he thought claiming cop was best and he was "cop". i dontthink a cop would post that, they would just claim right away. Onthe other hand, tunkegs resistance to claiming n0 even though its clearly the best move for town is also relatively scummy in my opinion. I can'tsay for certain who's lying at this point, will re-assess the situation when i wake up.


Kinda looks like im rushing to type right? lots of words put together? First letter of each multiword spells out IAMDOC. So yeah, I'm doc.

But you guys know this already, as of today.

I also don't like your surge in activity, BL, and your argument against him isn't that good. Anyways, I'm not gonna vote just yet, even though I'm 99% sure it's BL. I need to go to school and will read filters hardcore when I'm back.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 14:30 GMT
#314
in like 4 hours. I dont want to risk this to chance, i want to be sure of reads and read filters
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 18:51 GMT
#324
i'd appreciate a post that actually explains dirkzor being scum if you want me to take you seriously BL. you're defending yourself and posting a lot without really saying anything. Explain why you're town and he's scum. don't say "hes scum by the merit of me being town". I don't know you're town so that kind of explanation isn't helpful.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 19:17 GMT
#327
No questions for you I just want to know BL's explanation. I doubt anything he can say will change my mind on him being scum though
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 19:30 GMT
#330
lol, doublethink means agreeing with both of 2 contradicting statements, so not doublethink
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#332
I think I'll wait just in case it is something outstanding that changes my mind. Why are you in such a rush?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 22:46 GMT
#334
On April 17 2012 19:24 Bluelightz wrote:
medic is jwup GG.


15 minutes later

On April 17 2012 19:39 Bluelightz wrote:
Here. I'll stress this out, I AM TOWN. People, do I look like scum for fucking pressing this the whole game? Would scum claim town openly like this?(Not Kenpachi)

MEDIC CLAIM NOW.

emphasis mine

rofl, if bluelightz is town then dirkzor is a fucking genius at mafia.

##vote bluelightz
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 22:47 GMT
#335
actually if bluelightz is town then its more of bluelightz being an idiot than dirkzor being amazing
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 23:28 GMT
#341
no comment
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 23:31 GMT
#347
i definitely thought dirkzor was scummy as shit esp this last day but i couldnt see bl not being scum with how he played the whole game. scummy whole game > scummy one day. sigh
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 23:32 GMT
#349
i would have but like i quoted BL said first "johnny is medic" then he said "medic claim now" as if he didnt know.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 23:37 GMT
#354
On April 18 2012 04:38 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 04:17 johnnywup wrote:
No questions for you I just want to know BL's explanation. I doubt anything he can say will change my mind on him being scum though


I can understand the need for answer from BL, but if you don't really think he can provide an answer that turn you around can you just vote now so we can celebrate?

this made me think dirk was scummy as shit but I STILL couldn't see him being more scummy than BL. It was so fucking scummy i was about to vote dirk right then but the townies that died said BL was probably scum so that's in the end why I voted. I didn't trust myself

BL, how can you post oneliners and baseless arguments and expect me to think you're town. last day you put some effort but even then your arguments depended on you being town which i obviously didnt think you were.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 23:48 GMT
#356
that post i just quoted made me want to vote dirk but i couldn't because of everything else he did to 'help', and the lack BL did. He was trying to rush me to make the wrong decision, I saw and understood that, but I couldn't bring myself to think BL was town at the time with his lack of effort up till last day. I know it was a reasonable choice to lynch BL in my position but I feel like I could have made right one.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 23:50 GMT
#358
Obviously hindsight 20/20. not beating myself up but I'm pushing myself to trust myself more lol
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 00:39 GMT
#366
T_T sorry to disappoint guys ~~ good for 4th (?) real game i think. I'm learning a lot haha. i came that close :U
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 00:40 GMT
#367
he was semilurking here, his posts were 1liners lol
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#372
yeah gg blazing hope you think im at least somewhat less of an idiot now
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 00:57 GMT
#374
I was fairly sure dirk was town until last day. I didn't even consider him being scum until rad died so that's why I healed him. It was between him and rad, and hindsight being 20/20 i definitely should have saved rad. But this is my first time as /any/ power role, so I won't think too much of it right now.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 02:21 GMT
#376
thats right, i forgot that im supposed to vote for the opposite person i think is scum in 3 person scenarios
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 06:02 GMT
#382
fail/fail/fail
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 06:03 GMT
#383
honestly i dont want to say because its embarrasing
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 07:10 GMT
#385
no it wasnt, blazing :p
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 18:53 GMT
#417
don't feel bad BL!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 19:30 GMT
#420
syllo, ive never played a power role before. :\
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 19:39 GMT
#423
I think my breadcrumb was pretty creative though. no one except me could be able to point that out/find that
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 19:43 GMT
#425
That's true. I figured a scum could breadcrumb too, breadcrumbing results is much better. Didn't think of that
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 19:54 GMT
#427
can you give me an example of a post you breadcrumbed of you saving someone that night? for reference :o
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 20:04 GMT
#431
it's not obvious to me, who were you breadcrumbing that you were going to heal?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 20:08 GMT
#434
That's what I thought. But pointing it out later it still seems ambiguous. I think there's no way to convince everyone that you are actually doc by quoting that post.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 20:11 GMT
#436
But I just wonder how that says that you're healing him. It stood out to me as the one you were talking about, but I wasn't sure why.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 20:16:48
April 18 2012 20:15 GMT
#438
Oh, i know who Ma Jae-Yoon, I just didn't recognize MYJ as his initials, haha
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 18 2012 20:18 GMT
#440
That makes a LOT more sense. The sentence in itself didn't seem like a breadcrumb to me so that explains it
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