Ikinda see your points, from both tunkeg and dirkzor. i'll read more into cop vs cop in the morning but asof right now they both look evenly scummy/towny, in myopinion. reading the argument from dirkzor, i agree its kinda weird how BH was like "Cop needs to claim NOW" even though he thought claiming cop was best and he was "cop". i dontthink a cop would post that, they would just claim right away. Onthe other hand, tunkegs resistance to claiming n0 even though its clearly the best move for town is also relatively scummy in my opinion. I can'tsay for certain who's lying at this point, will re-assess the situation when i wake up.

johnnywup

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April 14 2012 17:56 GMT

#243

just woke up.
##vote Blazinghand

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 14 2012 19:25 GMT

#245

On April 15 2012 04:04 Radfield wrote:

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Tell me more. Who do you think is scum?

BH obviously for having claimed cop, then the CCer dies, so he should obviously be scum, save idiocy for a town claiming cop.
I think you're the scumbuddy for your "confidence" in BH being the scum so early. Only scum should know that, so I think you're bussing.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 15 2012 01:04 GMT

#251

On April 15 2012 08:10 Radfield wrote:
Lets try this again Johnny.

Assuming I die tonight, where does that leave you with your reads? Who do you think is likely town? Who would you think is likely scum.

In fact, maybe you could rank people for me, give them a grade on how likely to be townie they are.

Does Bugs late condemnation of BH seem off to you?
Does Bluelightz not making sense lead you to think he is scummy, or just a confused townie?
Where does Dirkzor rank? Do you see his contributions as legitimate or contrived?

These are just starter questions to get your juices flowing, so feel free to elaborate above and beyond the things I'm asking in this post. Bluelightz, feel free to respond to this as well(though substitute bluelightz for johnnywup)

Bugs "late condemnation" was fine, when he saw something scummy he went on it and I agree that what he pointed out made me suspect BH more. If it was me I wouldn't really condemn someone unless I thought he was scum, so maybe he was just late to the BH-is-scum party, and didn't see why BH was scum initially.

Actually, looking back at bluelightz he does look way more scummy than you. His responses are exclusively one-liners. And this is extremely contradictory ( the posts are also somewhat far apart so i may be completely wrong about them talking about the same thing but I think they both are talking about my early vote on tunkeg)

On April 14 2012 20:29 Bluelightz wrote:
Wbg, Either you or radfield is scum, jwup is town because of the reasons in the next paragraph.

Jwup is town because in my mind scum won't go this far on a person or as far as voting said person.

Im open to change though

[B]On April 14 2012 19:38 Bluelightz wrote:
Presto I'm town. [b]Last scum somewhere between jwup for voting tunkeg, or rad/you depending who dies tonight.

emphasis mine. obviously contradictory

Dirkzors arguments seem genuine and make a ton of sense. Super logical. I'd say he's one of the most likely to be town.

from townliness 1 to 10:
Dirkzor 8
Radfield 5
Bluelightz 3
Wherebugsgo 6

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 15 2012 01:05 GMT

#252

Damn, bolding in 2nd BlueLightz quote was off, whatever though

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 15 2012 15:17 GMT

#260

Isn't 50/50 chance for confirming a second player for tommorrow better than a 0% chance if we mislynch today if doctor claims?

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 15 2012 17:00 GMT

#263

I agree. Doc should stay anonymous and we have a nolynch today in order to have a SLIGHTLY better shot tommorrow. It's only slightly but we need as many advantages as we can get right now.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 15 2012 21:41 GMT

#265

Not buddying you, just think you're least likely to be scum. Things could change that, nothing has so far.

BL seems most likely to scum but I'm not liking how "on top of town" Radfield is. Not necessarily scummy, but if scum is on top of town then it's unlikely for people to lynch him. So that's something to keep in mind. If I learned anything from LI that would be don't take for granted someone acting like a town leader is in fact town.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 16 2012 19:47 GMT

#278

dead thread is dead ;;

no lynch huh? right decision because a mislynch would cost us the game.
if doc heals correctly then it's 100% win for town i think. if maf kills doc we're in a tough situation though. so this game is almost completely decided tonight.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 16 2012 19:59 GMT

#280

2 confirmed townies makes things much easier, im not saying we auto-win but it would make it a lot easier.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 16 2012 22:42 GMT

#285

now im wondering what that message said lol

not much to say atm though, i guess we just have to wait this night out?

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 17 2012 03:46 GMT

#288

I don't think bl is a bad townie, he usually puts more effort in so he's either scum or busy. most likely scum. its weird how different he is in this game than any other game i've seen/played with him in it. Also calling someone town then KPing them seems like a way for scum to be like "ha i told you he was town!" thing, trying to clear himself of guilt.

good writeup, i agree with the points, i almost wish it was a third party writing that so i could see an analysis on you haha. its good to see someone putting effort in this dead thread. If BL turns out to be town i will be extremely shocked.

(PS way to use my contradiction argument as your own ><)

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 17 2012 14:27 GMT

#310

On April 14 2012 18:12 johnnywup wrote:
Ikinda see your points, from both tunkeg and dirkzor. i'll read more into cop vs cop in the morning but asof right now they both look evenly scummy/towny, in myopinion. reading the argument from dirkzor, i agree its kinda weird how BH was like "Cop needs to claim NOW" even though he thought claiming cop was best and he was "cop". i dontthink a cop would post that, they would just claim right away. Onthe other hand, tunkegs resistance to claiming n0 even though its clearly the best move for town is also relatively scummy in my opinion. I can'tsay for certain who's lying at this point, will re-assess the situation when i wake up.

Kinda looks like im rushing to type right? lots of words put together? First letter of each multiword spells out IAMDOC. So yeah, I'm doc.

But you guys know this already, as of today.

I also don't like your surge in activity, BL, and your argument against him isn't that good. Anyways, I'm not gonna vote just yet, even though I'm 99% sure it's BL. I need to go to school and will read filters hardcore when I'm back.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

April 17 2012 14:30 GMT

#314

in like 4 hours. I dont want to risk this to chance, i want to be sure of reads and read filters

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