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. The disadvantage is in your head. think of yourself of the same level as anyone else. dont let it stop you.That being said i expect some good analysis from you day 2.
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. The disadvantage is in your head. think of yourself of the same level as anyone else. dont let it stop you.That being said i expect some good analysis from you day 2. | ||
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I am not interested in joining a "leadership conglomerate" even if i did/adopted thoseprinciples you decided on. I thinkits a bad idea, and if one single scum was in it it would wreck everything massively. and then what happens when suspicions are made against someone in the conglomerate? And i dont even think that anyone officially accepted your offer as of yet. | ||
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On April 18 2012 00:29 Lorant wrote: I'm very busy today and won't be fit to debate anything until the day after tomorrow. If someone from the council of 4 is shot, he will either be replaced by the most active and sound player from the outer circle (i.e. everyone - (minus) Lazer & Novaplayer) or not .. that is for the council to decide halfway through Day2 which won't be like Day1 + Show Spoiler + .. chaotic, breeding baseless and silly argumentation like I didn't want to vote for that guy so I voted for the other guy Mid-nighttime is not the time to be making huge cases. Everyone prepare a statement and post it 2-3 minutes before daybreak to make sure mafia night action has been sent (hopefully the hosts don't mess it up). Also assuming that Novaplayer is in fact me, how is this not Against lazer and myself? | ||
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Please describe EXACTLY your idea so i can stop thinking Usual fourface nonsense >.> | ||
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On April 18 2012 06:44 Lorant wrote: Well you two accused oneplus of being noob despite his excellent efforts to make sense out of the information and possibilities he had at that time.. he lost respect and became an easy target, mainly due to your lack of responsibility, he regarded you as a leader and broke his trust and tried to rape his self-esteem. That's why I don't want you to be considered a leader anymore. Where did this come from And yes, i still find his logic to have multiple fallacies and be newbie play. which is understandable given thatit is a newbie game. If he wanted to look at me as a leader, thats his decision. I havent been trying to play as a leader nor have i tried to claim to be one. I tried to rape his self esteem? no, thats false. My point is that it is a purposely made exclusion of Lazer and I, where i believe you just said it wasnt. | ||
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On April 18 2012 06:46 Lorant wrote: Do you know Kohbee? .. You're like Kohbee and there's no point in talking to you as if you could understand the impediment of constructive atmosphere that your lack of self-awareness is producing. Rofl wait. I ask a question regarding your Strange council idea, and you tell me that it is worthless to talk to me because i dont understand what i am doing. and then relate me to someone else. wtf | ||
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On April 18 2012 06:49 TheRavensName wrote: Ahh. Well it was more of a continuation of another's thoughts Nova. Personally I'm more suspicious of him then you. Anyways Lorant, what Nova is trying to say if one Scum is on your council, the entire group is going to be pretty heavily dammed in the eyes of everyone else. Thats the risk that happens with every alliance... and its why forming them on day/night 1 is a terrible idea. Yes, that is one of the reasons i meant in that it is a terrible idea. | ||
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On April 18 2012 06:57 Therapist. wrote: The idea of a council is extremely strange. There are already two factions in this game - Town and Mafia. By creating a council, are you not creating a THIRD faction? So far it seems that creating a council that excludes others serves ONLY to piss people off and get people arguing back and forth. What is the point of this? Why not just play as one faction - TOWN. I'm for dropping all this distracting council stuff and just focusing on the task at hand - establishing your own innocence and hunting scum. Im wondering if the entire purpose of this was to piss me off. Because if he knows my meta in any way shape or form, i'll somehow rage out and die. Also his replies to me seemed as if they knew exactly what would make me mad. | ||
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On April 18 2012 07:15 Pure-SC2 wrote: Also TheRavensName, Lorant and BlueyD. You really need to contribute more, including some of your own analysis and scum reads. Spend the time to read peoples filters and make your own opinions. I want to say right now that pure pretty much said my thoughts right here. These are three out of the 4 players that i find most suspicious right now. I'll be voting immedietely after deadline so you can see where i stand. assuming i live, of course. | ||
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My best town read is Pure. I think a Lazer lynch would be the best option if i died tonight. | ||
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I did fully intend to vote immediately after daypost, but once it actually got to the daypost i just wanted to fall asleep. Im very interested in why mafia went for a bluekill on crossfire. im thinking that this could be a sign that we are totally off. Also im very surprised that lazer hasnt defended himself. im still trying to decide of that makes him more townie. | ||
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1. Crossfire was killed because he was going hard on Solohan, so that would either help protect solohan from future cases by Crossfire against him or throw WIFOM against solohan, 2. Crossfire was killed because Lorant voted for him and went hard on him instead of going over anything else, and its either a way to frame Lorant or Lorant protecting himself and noting it smartly, 3. Crossfire was killed because he was an easy blueread. The thing that is noticeable to me here is that, 2 of these 3 interpretations dont really seem to be a result of mafia being suspected by Crossfire. Also the 1 left over i find to be the most unlikely. Therefore; Mafia didnt feel threatened enough by anyone else that they decided they could frame somebody or more likely kill a blue. So i am now worried about our reads having been very wrong. Also, Lazer hasnt posted like, at all, recently. I think that he would have responded quickly to our pressure on him if he was mafia. WIFOM, but to me it seems like someone with a personal issue or a townie who is just bored of the game, based on experience. I wish to wait for a defense and explanation before voting him. I am frustrated that i forgot about solohan50 in the way i did after voting oneplus. Solohan needs to fix his play up, and post something very enlightening. So for the time being, ##Vote: Solohan50 This is not final, but it will stand until Solohan posts something of good value or someone else does something scummy enough to turn me off of solohan. I really hope that Solohan tries hard to post a good filter based case. | ||
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On April 18 2012 22:43 Macheji wrote: [b]NovaTerra (++/--------[/b )]> oh man, oh man...  .... Ok here we go. Accuses Solohan of appology post -> makes appology post moments later ( --- ). Made alot of accusations w/o arguments(-)(ex vs solohan, therapist ). Spamming, atleast 6 posts in the first 7 pages saying the same thing(-). From page 8, 18:25, when he is beeing accused he start to seem very troubled, he makes post-after-post, very twitchy. He goes crazy about him beeing the most active person. He gets even more crazy when someone mentions him beeing in the same team with Lazer.At first it seemed like an ok reaction, the guy was mad because he was wrongfully accused, but why get even more stirred up when beeing named a teammate of Lazer, that's something kinda specific to be generally mad against. Also, when Oneplus attack him he tells him he is digging his own grave, he was so sure about it, like he had some power the rest of us do not. Also when Oneplus attacks him in one post he says he is not impressed... he's not impressed of what ? When someone innocent is beeing accused of something, does it ever occure to him to say that he is not impressed with the case against him ? I am acc thinking of those real-life gangsters or white-collar criminals that laugh on the tv when they are beeing accused. ( -- ) . In another post he is accusing bandwaggoning when people started voting for him, but he had no problem with people bandwaggoning when there were like 4 voting me for beeing inactive or for 4 more to vote for oneplus when he got killed. ( - ) . He is by far the most frequent poster ( ++ ), but his posts lack any real information ( already rated this ) . Also it's clear in his mind that mafias are people that generaly don't want attention, so he may meta this and try to hide the poop in plain sight. He even says at a point that '' you do not vote for an active thought player for info'' when someone suggested his lynch in order to get information.In the future, please use actual examples from filter to prove your points. I dont recall accusing Solohan of an apology post and then making an apology post right after. I dont recall ever making an accusation against therapist, and i still feel that me noting that Solohans first post was scummy and wanting him to give his thoughts regarding it first was perfectly valid, and i did have an argument. Of course i get crazy when people continue to say that im in a team with Lazer; I made good analysis on him and find him reasonably scummy. A day 1 bussing plan is possible sure, but likely in a newbie game? not so much. Oneplus' attack and case for voting me were bad, and therefore i was not impressed. Thats fine if you choose to think of me as a gangster or white collar criminal, doesnt bother me. There was excessive bandwagoning on me that mattered; When someone makes a case and others bandwagon without adding anything really, that is much much worse than a group of people deciding on a pressure vote to make a lurker post. At the point when i was going to be lynched, it was a perfectly acceptable decision for me to get a vote running on someone else who wasnt really adding anything, townie or not. I havent had much time to make cases as i keep spending a lot of my time having to defend again and again, but i have posted a few scummy post analysis. Its true that mafia are ***generally*** people who dont like to draw attention to themselves, and until i try to meta that and "hide the poop in plain sight" that point is moot. I stand by my quote from earlier, and it appears here that you are taking it out of context to make your case seem better. right now in your +/- system i would give myself around ++++/-----. Pluses being most active player by far, posting filter based analysis, and maintaining town meta from previous games (sure it can be WIFOM'ed, but the truth is that is much harder to do as scum). minuses are from not having much content other than defense and defensive analysis, being cynical in responses, on the wrong side of a townie lynch. The other side was still a townie (me) lynch, but seeing as he actually flipped, yeah. | ||
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